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Hi All

 

 

I¨m new to this page so have a litle pations wit mee . trying figuring out how it all funks.

 

Ennyway My name is Jens and i live in Copenhagen  Denmark , so my englis is onfortunaly not the bedst but i vill take Google translate in youse later on . 

 

:D

 

I am building an old Billing Boats no. 459 Cutty sark as i board sekond hand som years ago and has now buildt for at least 2 years . im nerly finish with the ships hull and is about  building the lifeboats . The pic. belov is  about 1 week old. 

 

I planing to schove pic. from the start and the hole proces as if i started on day 1. and sofort to today .

 

I consither this letter therfor as a test in how this page woarks an will therfor erease it again hwen i soone start my "reeal " building log .

 

 

Cheers All.

Jens 

 

 

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Here I am to take a sit in a first row, and to wish you a warm wellcome to MSW, and to CS fleet

 

Her Majesty looks great. Can you post more photos of details?

 

Nenad

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Hi Nenad and Mark

Thanks for warme welcom .

i pose just fjue pic . becors i tomorov vil com op vit a new start on this site ,starting from the begining so it seems more lotigly 

 

il bee back.

Cheers

Jens

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Looks good Jens,I look forward to seeing the pictures of the frames and planking.  Bill

Welcome to the forum

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Hi everybody and thanks for komments  Omar , Bill and hof00
 
So I start my Cutty Sark log
 
First, a little background. I built models since I was a boy - back then it was Airfix I gathered. I also built a few wooden boats -but it was not here it caught my interest razed to build in wood
In 1976 or 77, I bought Billing boats See Adler and built the hull but went dead in having to make the rig. so in 1990 I built the finish after having cleaned it off for 13 years dust.
In 2010 I build my first Cutty Sark - it's Billing Boats 564 - laser cut.
I was not entirely happy with the result and I got the opportunity to try Artesanias Cutty Sark , It was a completely eye-opening experience. there is real quality in diferens in detail and material selection .and in the building instruction.
With this model, I got a building log on a side called Jolly Roger shipyard,
the closed and so I continued on a page - Model Space Forum where I still am today.
 
 
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Billing boats See Adler finish  1990-91
 
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Billing boats 564 My first Cutty Sark
 
 
 
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Cutty Sark Artesania Latina  My sekkend C.S. 
 
 
 
But what this is all about is my third Cutty sark - Billing Boats 459 bought used about 30 years old but "almost" complete with fittings.
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I stop her . and start nekst leder building op the freams/ribs . see you son 
 
Cheers All
Jens
 

 

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Hi Again 

 

The frames are cut on a band saw by hand

and therefore somewhat coarse

 

I will build a false keel so that's why I cut the bow of

 

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i folov building instruktion from Artesania , so i cut avay standings but in a way i can youse them later for chaping the bulwork.

 

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The frames are set after a string

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I build things inside the ship and fake iron frames.

the plan is to be able to look down into the cargo.

 

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All for now next ledder light inside and dekking .

 

Cheers Jens

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I will also build inside the captain's cabin, it requires little modification

 

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I mount  car dashboard lights inside the ship

I  just did it wrong they were connected in series, they should have been parallel connected  -  expensive learning money. :(

 

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Cheers All

Jens

 

 

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Hi All

 

I have the idea of building with aluminum at locations where, in fact, is used iron, and it is especially the sea rail I am thinking of.- metal for  metal.
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The wood that is in the kit are balsa wood. which in my opinion can only be used for gliders.
I use only the deck plates. the wood I instead use is from a scrapped Artesania kit I have taken over - and what is left from Artesania CS
 
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havewer i uses billing wood as filler  mostly to get read of it in a konstruktive way 
 
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Her dek is way onder way .
 
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Dek finish
 
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planking started 
 
:)  Its so long a lether i have to cut in 2.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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planking pic. 

 

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It is african walnut 1.8 x 5mm planking from Artesania models.

 

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Planking finish and redy for fals kel - frame broken of in stern , isy to glue on again. :)

 

Well it thake longer than expekted making this log so ill stop for today and kontinu later on . 

 

Cheers  All   B)

 

Jens.

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Looks good, and I like the "cargo" you added.  Adds interest to the finished model.

 

Richard

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Inspiring build!!

 

In your opinion which of the kits is the best in regards to accuracy and quality?

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Hi Richard , Tasmanian , Peter and Thunder 

Thanks for righting mee prisietet it   :D  :D  :D  :D

 

Richard Thanks for nice  koment.  

 

Peter Jenssen  Jeg skulle vel ikke kunne skrive til Dig på dansk ?

 

Tasmanian    EL Chapo ? Hu is He ?

 

 

Thunder     . The bedst Kit in my opinion ?

 

The best kit between Billing Boats and Artesania Latina Cutty Sark for the price is certainly Artesania. when talking about material selection, detail, instructions. This also makes artesania far harder / fun to build if they were from the same factory would Billing be catalysed  light and artesania for hewig to build.

 

 

Cheers All

Jens.

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The Bulwarks 

 

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Her chowes how power conektet trough stand . and the fals kel.

 

also starting put on alu.  bulwarks .

 

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The front dek i do like billing make it ( a chape it was under its time under portugise flag .) 

 

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Then the dek on the front dek and that it .

 

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Cheers All

Jens

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Hi All 

 

This is a little unfair way to make a buildlog on  hven you alredy hawe don the building  . at this stage i proberly hawe build on the model for over a year. and this log has taken 2 days so far.  :huh:

 

enyway it dont stop me , im in a hury to get this Loooo..oong opdat finish so i kan go back building again  :D

 

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I make the figurehead in Teak wood  when i dont find wats folowed the kit to bee the right sice.

 

Then the cobber butum in paper -"HVAY IN PAPER" ? Becors i have paper and it look reight first painted  B)

 

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and then finly waterline fender 

 

Cheers All

 

Jens

 

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Hi Nenad   Thanks for comment.  :)

 

Her is some detales in Alu .

 

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All ornamentation cut out of a 1mm aluprofil. board in a hardwar stoor for building konstruktions

 

 

Cheers All

 

Jens

 

 

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Peter Jenssen  Jeg skulle vel ikke kunne skrive til Dig på dansk ?
 
 

Absolut! :-)

Jag är Svensk med Norska förfäder, men förstår dansk!  ;-D

 

/Peter

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Ornamentation looks really good!

I see you made a new figurehead.

That was the main part I was unhappy with when I first opened the box.
It's so bad that they didn't even use it on the model in their catalogue! :-)

 

/Peter

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Hi Nenad   Thanks for comment.  :)

 

Her is some detales in Alu .

 

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All ornamentation cut out of a 1mm aluprofil. board in a hardwar stoor for building konstruktions

 

 

Cheers All

 

Jens

Hi Jens, beautiful work,  the bulwarks are  super, how did you adatch the  stanchions to the aluminium bulwarks?

Greetings, Rudolf

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Hello Peter   Fun to write to a Scandinavian on the other side of the earth. 

 

And as you write, it is not good enough that they - Billing Boats do not want to use their own figurehead. and that they now deliver Mark 3 ordision Laser cut and everything and then still with the same old crap that they came up with? 1965-70? It is only the dead eys and the blocks that have changed to wood. since then. They kut due better .

 

Cheres Jens.

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Wow! That is a lot of progress in only a couple days! If you don't mind, I will follow your build.

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Hi Rudolf

i mad a princip plan to explane how it build up. 

 

 

 

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After laying the dek plate on , i put wood in the korners betwin the frames  so ther was bagground for mounting the alu vit glu an  tempreary nails .  under the alu begids the "reeal" planking  But to make it little more dificult i startede wit planking first then alu and otsid a slim list to covor ataksion from alu and over this list a squar list  -- Now the aly is glued in bottom and stands by itself only under control in front and back . at this point you have to chape it  and that you do by gluing a squar list on indsid top of alu . and this chapes the curwe of the ship så be kritikal vith the chape it taks as it is permanely . Afterwards you dril tru the squar list and dovn in the dek and glue the round stanchions in.

 

I hope it not all nonsens to read .  ;) 

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Hi Rudolf

i mad a princip plan to explane how it build up. 

 

 

 

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After laying the dek plate on , i put wood in the korners betwin the frames  so ther was bagground for mounting the alu vit glu an  tempreary nails .  under the alu begids the "reeal" planking  But to make it little more dificult i startede wit planking first then alu and otsid a slim list to covor ataksion from alu and over this list a squar list  -- Now the aly is glued in bottom and stands by itself only under control in front and back . at this point you have to chape it  and that you do by gluing a squar list on indsid top of alu . and this chapes the curwe of the ship så be kritikal vith the chape it taks as it is permanely . Afterwards you dril tru the squar list and dovn in the dek and glue the round stanchions in.

 

I hope it not all nonsens to read .  ;) 

thank you, that clears it up. Very ingenious !

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