Bedford Posted February 11, 2018 Share #841 Posted February 11, 2018 Oh mate, I can relate to that! The build has had such great direction from the get go, it would be a shame for it to be without direction now mtaylor and KeithAug 2 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share #842 Posted February 11, 2018 I had a good rummage through my cupboards and thankfully located the rudder and it’s shaft. A few minutes later and it was fitted. Direction re-established!! Dee_Dee, coxswain, jlefever and 22 others 25 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 11, 2018 Share #843 Posted February 11, 2018 I'm glad you found the rudder, Keith. That looks superb. John Nirvana, mtaylor and KeithAug 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 11, 2018 Share #844 Posted February 11, 2018 Some further rework avoided A truly magnificent model. cheers Pat KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 12, 2018 Share #845 Posted February 12, 2018 What John and Pat said. Smashing! mtaylor and KeithAug 2 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Riccardo1966 Posted February 12, 2018 Share #846 Posted February 12, 2018 Well done, a very beautiful build. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted February 12, 2018 Share #847 Posted February 12, 2018 Oh Keith, my heart beats funny when I look at your model of Altair. It is gorgeous. The women I dated in my life never had such pretty lines! Tom KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 12, 2018 Share #848 Posted February 12, 2018 Beautifully done, Keith! KeithAug, John Allen and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted February 12, 2018 Share #849 Posted February 12, 2018 Keith, Besides an indescribably awesome flawless build and the way you tackled all the complicated fabrication of the hardware in 2 years is amazing kudos a 10+ 2 buds for you KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted February 12, 2018 Share #850 Posted February 12, 2018 Not being a wind sailor explain the offset prop and does the placement affect the rudder when not under sail? Remember you told me no question is stupid. KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share #851 Posted February 12, 2018 22 hours ago, Jim Lad said: I'm glad you found the rudder, 19 hours ago, BANYAN said: Some further rework avoided John / Pat - yes I think I will have a dedicated bits box on future builds. The rudder didn't take long to find but I was a bit concerned that it might have gone into the workshop black hole like a couple of other things lately. Thank you for your comments. Thank you Haken / Richard / Druxey - For your comments and support throughout the build. 4 hours ago, wyz said: The women I dated in my life never had such pretty lines Tom - Maybe its just that memories fade and interest change - but I know what you mean. 2 hours ago, John Allen said: Not being a wind sailor explain the offset prop and does the placement affect the rudder when not under sail John - I'm not convinced but it does have few benefits when under engine power. Props produce a component of thrust sideways as well as rearward, (this is usually referred to as prop walk) - depending on the rudder rotation off-setting the prop to port or starboard can compensate for the the prop walk and minimise the amount of rudder needed. It also has mechanical advantages in that the prop shaft can be removed without having to dismantle the rudder. To me it seems like the benefits under power are significantly outweighed by the disadvantages under sail, where it will increase drag and produce diferent sailing characteristics on each tack Also under power the wash over the rudder is significantly reduced which I assume makes slow speed handling a bit problematic. That said all the yachts I have sailed have had axial props, so I don't have personal experience. I bet others will have a better answer???? Thank you for your support throughout the build. When i'm next home I will have a go at a few final photos in the yachts final resting place. My wife has given me permission to have it in the lounge. In the mean time i plan to finish the daughters bathroom. John Allen and mtaylor 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 12, 2018 Share #852 Posted February 12, 2018 Great build Keith. About the prop placement. Can it be that the engine is post-fitted? I have seen it in magazines before. Maybe those that fitted the engine did not want to drill through the stern, which is quite a significant piece of wood and hence also didn't want to redo the rudder? Keith... now what? Any teaser for a next build? KeithAug, mtaylor and John Allen 3 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pearse Posted February 13, 2018 Share #853 Posted February 13, 2018 Hi Keith beautiful. Also, your techniques were very well thought out. On the prop, I agree with all you said except that you usually wouldn't need to remove the rudder to slip the shaft out: a scallop in the leading edge of the blade would give the space to slide it out with attached rudders like this. Mark KeithAug 1 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted February 13, 2018 Share #854 Posted February 13, 2018 Just SUPERB, well done. As for the prop I know what you mean about prop walk, the 1902 tug I crew always had the tow rope on the port bollard (plane to see by the wear) and that's because it counters the prop walk. I also think wintergreen might be right in that it would have been too hard to install a centre prop or perhaps even the stern post doesn't allow enough room to do so. John Allen and KeithAug 2 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share #855 Posted February 19, 2018 On 12/02/2018 at 7:46 PM, Wintergreen said: Any teaser for a next build Hakan Thank you for your comments. As to the next build I'm not sure yet but I like schooners and I do quite like this:- At 200ft long she would make a substantial model at 1:36 and I don't want to go smaller as I can manage the detail at this scale. Mark / Bedford - thanks for visiting and your contribution to the off set prop debate. For now model making is off the agenda as my wife has broken her arm to get out of domestic duties. Cooking and washing major in the plan for the next 6 weeks. GrantGoodale, mtaylor, Mark Pearse and 1 other 4 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 19, 2018 Share #856 Posted February 19, 2018 Is that Elena? mtaylor and KeithAug 2 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share #857 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wintergreen said: Is that Elena? Hakan - no but you are quite close. Elena was on the list but I couldn't find the hull lines anywhere. Edited February 19, 2018 by KeithAug mtaylor 1 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted February 20, 2018 Share #858 Posted February 20, 2018 Well Keith that would be a beauty reload and start the build, domestic and nursing duties will clear the head. Quick recovery to the wife. mtaylor and KeithAug 2 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Riccardo1966 Posted February 20, 2018 Share #859 Posted February 20, 2018 Hello Kieth, It has been a pleasure to watch your build, it is a thing of great beauty. Looking forward to some final photos of Altair and as to what you will decide is your next project. Wishing you the best and a quick and full recovery for your wife. Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted February 21, 2018 Share #860 Posted February 21, 2018 Keith, I've been fearing the withdrawal since you finished so thanks for giving me hope! Mighty decent of your wife to hold off on the injury til you had it done! KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share #861 Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Thank you John / Richard and for your good wishes to my wife. 8 hours ago, Bedford said: Mighty decent of your wife to hold off on the injury til you had it done! Bedford - she says it is nice to be appreciated by someone. (She must be feeling better as her voice contained a degree of sarchasm). The schooner in the pictures is Germania Nova. Edited February 21, 2018 by KeithAug mtaylor, Bedford and Wintergreen 3 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share #862 Posted March 4, 2018 My brother n law came to stay with his superior camera equipment - so lots of photos which blow up quite well for anyone looking for imperfections. I need sort out a finished model post so I may use some of these. Meanwhile my better half seems to have perked up a little and I may bet back to the workshop soon. mcpwilk, oneslim, Wintergreen and 21 others 24 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted March 4, 2018 Share #863 Posted March 4, 2018 Marvellous build, Keith! paulsutcliffe and KeithAug 2 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojofilter Posted March 4, 2018 Share #864 Posted March 4, 2018 Takes my breath away!! KeithAug 1 Quote Current Builds: Cutty Sark Finished Builds: Yacht America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted March 4, 2018 Share #865 Posted March 4, 2018 Exquisite and Beautiful! KeithAug 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggi52 Posted March 4, 2018 Share #866 Posted March 4, 2018 That is really a great build, Keith KeithAug and paulsutcliffe 2 Quote Regards, Siggi Recent build: HMS Tiger (1747) Captains Barge ca. 1760, scratch build HMS Dragon 74 gunner 1760, scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 4, 2018 Share #867 Posted March 4, 2018 Beyond belief, Keith. Just incredible. paulsutcliffe and KeithAug 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 4, 2018 Share #868 Posted March 4, 2018 A lovely set of photos of a truly delightful build. John mtaylor and KeithAug 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarfather Posted March 4, 2018 Share #869 Posted March 4, 2018 Congratulation! An absolute wundervoll build and an awesome workmanship, Cheers! Hartmut KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pearse Posted March 5, 2018 Share #870 Posted March 5, 2018 sensational Keith, well done & thank you for showing us, it's been inspiring to see all the best, Mark KeithAug and mtaylor 2 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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