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HM Cutter Surly (Cheerful Class) by Lami - Scale 1:30, 1807 as she was ordered by the admirality - remote controlled


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Hi,

after finishing the Banterer my father and I started to search for the next ship to build. We agreed that this time it should be something mall and easily to transport.

After some research we agreed to built a cutter ordered for the Navy, the "Surly". She was the second and last cutter of the Cheerful class ordered to be armed with 10 18pdr Carronades  and 2 6pdr long guns. We were quite surprised by the heavy caliber but  plan copies we got from the National Maritime museum in Greenwich explicitly stated on the side view plan "... to be armed with 10 18 per Carronades and 2 6pdr guns ...."

we started to contract the hull again in two parts (upper and lower) to allow for easy access to the mechanics and electronicsCurrently we finished coppering the hull and are working on the deck.

 

 

 

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This looks very interesting! I hope you don't mind if I follow your build.

-Elijah

 

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Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

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Model Shipways Phantom

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beautiful build, large model Iami,

 

very interesting project for remote control, Guess you`ll need about min 31/2 to 4 kg ballast to keep her stabil on windward course. Are you intending to place the ballast down low into the hull or external removeable keel ? and perhaps a second rudder with larger lateral area when remote sailing ?

 

Nils

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-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

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under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hi Nils,

if my calculations are correct she will have an displacement of about 5 to 6 kg. My hope is to keep the weight of the hull and mechanics below 3 kg. Dependent on that we will decide if I go for ballast in the hull or if we need to go with an removable keel (points to attach an external keel are already built into the hull).

We also foresee the option to increase the area of the rudder, as this will be necessary based on our experience with the Banterer and Racehorse.

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very attractive model Lami,

 

hope you can seal off the hull good against overcoming water later on

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Looking great :)!

-Elijah

 

Current build(s):

Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

Member of:

The Nautical Research Guild

N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)

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That looks fine :-)

Give :pirate41:

 

Moony a.k.a. Jan

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  • 3 months later...

We have now started rigging our Surly. Were we are still not sure is about the mounting of the Carronades. Research shows that Carronades up to 12pdr were normally mounted on "normal" wheel carriages. As, based on the description on the plan, Surly and Cheerful were ordered to carry 18pdr Carronades I'm wondering if for those slide mounts wouldn't be more appropriate?

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Wow! Are those blocks functional? Great progress!

-Elijah

 

Current build(s):

Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

Member of:

The Nautical Research Guild

N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)

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Wunderbar Lami !!!

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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