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Hello Michael,

Thank your for following my log. You are right, there are tons of a Bounty model dusting in living rooms. I just wanted to do my wish from the childhood as accurate as possible. McKays book in combination with the original drawings from the NMM offers a good source in company with another standard books about rigging from Marquardt, Lees, Petersson etc. Actually there are a lot of discrepancies between the Admiralty original draughts quickly taken off after her purchase and the draughts of McKay. I have to find my own way. By example, the original drawings doesn't show any figures at the stern and at the bow. Because of Bligh's log we know there was a women in a brown riding habit at the bow. Another point is the space between the upper whale and the sheer. Following McKay there has to be 10 strakes each 14 cm respectively 5 1/2" wide (2.2 mm in 1:64 scale).To me it was a strange thin strake. Normally I would go with a wide of 20 cm respectively 8". But that doesn't fit mathematically with the space left and so I made decision to use 9 strakes of 15,2 cm respectively 6". That means in scale 1:64 the strake has to be 3/32 wide and can be ordered easy at Crown Timberyard, Otherwise I had to use 10 strakes of 11/128 (equal to 2.2 mm). I assume that would be difficult to saw. I hope, my decision is not so far away from the real ship.

 

Hi Robin,

Thank you again for your comment regarding the wale planking technique. I had a look on your post and have answered my thoughts about it. As result I will go on with standard strake wales following the four shift planking layout of the hull. It probably makes the most sense.

 

Hi Mark,

You are right, overhauling or frequent repairs changes the look and the details of ships sometimes slowly but with massive effect on the original appearance of the ship. As we know, the colour scheme was depending on the captain's taste, rigging could change several times during construction and after the first test sales or first voyages. Sometimes no record left. But the most of us are able to identify a sailing vessel by minor characteristics. Even if the model is not absolutely historical correct. I assume most of us can identify an Endeavour, Bounty, Cruiser Class, Victory, Constitution, Syren, La Courone etc. Few days ago there was a post on Dubz Syren about his next project he is planning with Daniel Duzek. he just posted the timbers of the bow and the most followers directly recognised the Confederacy. Just because of few not assembled bow timbers. To me it is amazing as for the most people out there one sailing vessel is looking equal to the next one and differs in colour scheme or in size of armament only.

 

Hi Lawrence,

Thank for following my build log and for your warm comments. Bounty is worth it to make a good scratch build. Do you have McKays Anatomy of the Ship HM Armed Vessel Bounty? The housing abaft the rudder is also drawn on the original NMM draughts and the original purpose was to store flags (and some bottles of rum from the crew ;)) I do not know Amatis plans but I am sure, McKays book gives you a lot of additional information. Wish you a good start!

 

Cheers, Daniel

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Hello,

 

Because of some current questions I do post how to scale-up the drawings from a book at home without a CAD program.

 

1: scan it with care

2: make one print-out of the scan and compere it to the original source in the book, is it of the same size? (hold both pages by daylight agains a window)

3: to re-scale the pdfs you can do on the computer as follows

   a: go to file/print (don't use the printer button)

   b:chose the printer you wanna use

   c: chose the scale of the print out (standard is 100%), this is easy to calculate:

      1:96 (or 1' = 1/8") to 1:12 (or 1' =1/1") = 800% (because 1:12 is 8 times larger than 1:96), (96/12=8)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:24 (or 1/2) = 400% (because 1:24 is 4 times larger than 1:96), (96/24=4)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:32 (or 3/8) = 300% (because 1:32 is 3 times larger than 1:96), (96/32=3)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:36 (or 1/3) = 266.66% (because 1:36 is 2.66 times larger than 1:96), (96/36=2.66)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:48 (or 1/4) = 200% (because 1:48 is 2 times larger than 1:96), (96/48=2)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:60 (or 1/5) = 160% (because 1:60 is 1.6 times larger than 1:96), (96/60=1.6)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:64 (or 3/16) = 150% (because 1:64 is 1.50 times larger than 1:96), (96/64=1.5)

      1:96 (or 1/8) to 1:72 (or 1/6) = 133.33% (because 1:72 is 1.33 times larger than 1:96), (96/72=1.33)

4: print it out

5: assemble the pages together with a scotch

 

Cheers, Daniel

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Good advice, Daniel.

 

I don't know if this has been mentioned in the discussions you refer to, but just in case some might not want to use CAD or Photoshop because of the expense, there are some free CAD programmes available (TurboCAD 12, Draftsight, SketchUp) as well as the free version of Photoshop CS2 which will scale pdf and jpg files very accurately.

 

The reason for mentioning this is that I have found some scanners distort differently in the x and y axes, and these CAD and Photoshop programmes allow you to scale each axis to a different degree.

 

Tony

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Hi Daniel a very impressive rebuild you are doing. You were asking about a rabbet in the stem to take the wale. If you look at photos of the Endeavour replica you will see that the wale dosn't thin but keeps an even thickness as it meets the stem. So I'd imagine that there would be a separate rabbet stepped out to take the wale strake butts which is also shown in the AOTS book. I posted a photo on my Endeavour log of the rabbet I cut in the stem to take the wale, post #41.

 

Just my 2cent thought about the method of planking the wale. A colier would need to withstand the constant loading and unloading of cargo tonnage. This would mean the hull would need to withstand extreme changes from loading stresses as part of it's job. Where as I'd imagine a war ship will have a more constant stress from cargo weight loading, as it's basic cargo wouldn't change that much but instead would need to be braced against cannon firing and battle impact.

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Hello Tony,

Thank you for your input. TurboCAD offers also a Mac version. That's perfect. And I have to put it on my birthday list :-)

 

Hello Dashicat,

In all books, plans and AOTS I have only seen on Marquardt's Endeavour plans, that the wales are not running thinned flush into the rabbet. He has widen the rabbet to house the wales with the original width on his plans. That's why I had this question. But I will go on with thinning the wales as I find it a very interesting little detail. Regarding the wales I have in mind to fit the upper and lower wales butts with hooks. The middle strake will be standard. That scheme is seen on Granado. Anyhow there must be a reason why the Admiralty has chosen for Bethia, Earls of Pembrook and so on. There where probably a lot of potential ships. But I do assume, they where bought because both of them have been fitted more than less to the royal navy standards. As I do remember correct. Cook has chosen the Earl of Pembrook personally. And he was doubtless one of the best navigators of his time with excellent understanding about special demands on a ship. Am I right?

 

Hello Lawrence,

Now you can start your build soon and I am keen to see some progress on it. Because of my real job I had just limited space to do some progress on my build. This weekend I have solved the upper planking at the bow. On all plans it is clearly detective that the sheer is not running with the wales. It goes up at the bow. Following McKay the hull is 2-3 plank strake higher comparing to the mid section of the ship. He has suggested in his plans to thin the planks down to zero at its end. I doubt that was the right planking technique and have used some filler planks / joint butts as it is a common practice for the underwater hull. To me it makes much more sense as each plank can be fastened properly at the end. If you follow McKays draught, the top plank can't be fastened properly as there is not enough wood to fix it to the frames. 

 

Now it is looking a bit rough but after tree nailing and sanding it will turn out properly.

 

Cheers,

Daniel

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Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Nice progress. I like your planking layout on the upper bow. I see McKay has drawn the wale planking thicker at the bow rabbet than the rest of the planking. This was not usual: wale planks normally taper around the bow and are the thickness of the rabbet where they land in it.

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Hello,

 

After more than one year I've had this week time to continue with my Bounty and mounted the strake above the wales including nailing. Later it gets a yellow ochre paint.

 

Now I am on to prepare the wales. The upper and the lower wale will get a hook scarph, the wale in the middle will get a classic butt joint. It is because of an old idea we've discussed on this forum how could the get the hull of the original vessel much stronger for it's famous voyage in service for the admiralty and I've found this solution in the book AOTS Granado. Maybe the Bounty of 1787 never had this feature as it was a common practice of the admiralty to purchase a vessel just for one mission and to sell it later again. However, we know that Bethia/Bounty got an alteration to fitting her out for the circumnavigation. on the other hand, the fitting out just took 2-3 months unIMG_6502.thumb.jpg.5317850ebe6ac2ed7cb058a5d7873b71.jpgIMG_6503.thumb.jpg.f58a41659aa9b59e0d8444337a9dc025.jpgIMG_6504.thumb.jpeg.9e8e37092204b0457bc5073821966fb9.jpegtill she undocked from Deptford Yard.

 

Daniel

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Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Hello, 

 

the wales on the portside are placed,

Daniel

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Daniel

 

Klasse gemacht !

impressive build, a beautiful model, planking an treenailing very realistic, good job !!

 

Nils

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Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

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"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
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-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

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"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hello Nils,

 

Thank you vor your pleasant comment !! 

 

Meanwhile I've placed the wales on starboard including simulation bolts by 0.5 mm brass wire. Unfortunately I've sanded down the strakes on the lower stern too much and had to replace them after I have given the lower wales the right shape.

 

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Hello, here some pictures of the slow progress for the planking on the lower hull. Bending the single planks is tricky job but I water the planks for ca. 30 minutes. 

First dropstrake was needed. McKay suggests three dropstrakes in his planking layout. I'll see, maybe two will be enough. To guarantee an identical planking layout I go on now with the planking job on the port side.

 

Best, Daniel

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

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4 hours ago, Siegfried said:

Hello, here some pictures of the slow progress for the planking on the lower hull. Bending the single planks is tricky job but I water the planks for ca. 30 minutes. 

First dropstrake was needed. McKay suggests three dropstrakes in his planking layout. I'll see, maybe two will be enough. To guarantee an identical planking layout I go on now with the planking job on the port side.

 

Best, Daniel

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excellant planking job Daniel,

youre ship looks beautiful !!

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hello Nils, thank you for your compliment

 

During the last two weeks I had a little time to proceed on the planking. After sanding, the lower hull got a first coat of linseed oil. It is always a special moment, when the oil turns out the colour of the wood and the true lines of the hull became visible. Too bad, but later on the hull gets a copper sheeting. 

 

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

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Hi Daniel,

 

the hull looks great, love the look of the excellent planking and of the brass-wire treenails (will be quite a procedure to get them all done ! )

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hello Chris and Nils,

 

Thank you for your nice comments and thank you to all the Likes too!! Traditionally I use brass wire for wales only as it get a coat of paint. After the paint job the nails became slightly visible. However, on my journey to the HMS Victory I've learned, that tree-nails are normally not visible on the painted part of a ship except the bolts. For the visible rest of the hull I us the old technique with cutdown tooth sticks. The underwater hull gets a coppering. Therefore I do no nailing here. 

 

I am now on to make some little research for the Spanish frigate Diana with 34 guns. Therefore I've been in Madrid at the Museo Naval and got a good set of plans there. For those, who where impressed by the Science Museum in London, the NMM in Greenwich or the Musée national de la Marine in Paris I really can recommend a visit in Madrid. It is a wonderful city and the museum is of a same quality as its opponents in France or England. By the way, a visit in Hamburgs Internationales Maritimes Museum is also worth a trip! As the most French ships (and it became common practice to English frigates at this time too), the Spanish Diana was fully painted. At the moment I do not know if she was painted in black with the common (yellow)ochre belt or if the belt was painted in red(ochre) as known from the famous Santisima Trinidad. Even when no tree-nailing is required, a bad done paint job can destroy the whole model. We will see.

 

Best, Daniel

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Hello, a little progress on the hull. The lower port side is sanded and as well as treated with a first coat of linseed oil. Waterline is marked. I am now on to think about installation ofIMG_6533.thumb.jpg.fc30101b329920b32eeb1b135b344405.jpgIMG_6536.thumb.jpg.7c6e6033142f895e27b87fa6bf1b8be4.jpgIMG_6537.thumb.jpg.b950f62606cbc372f52d9a1a3d8bc16c.jpgIMG_6540.thumb.jpg.8f820d0a14db4ce6b2ebe580b221ea8b.jpgIMG_6541.thumb.jpg.9d5edc3346e36ee9f594f2c5fdc3c9b3.jpgIMG_6542.thumb.jpg.944f753bcaa724f8d232392834a15fae.jpg thin battens as upper end of the coppering. I don't know if this was common on merchant vessels. Has someone an idea?

 

Daniel

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Daniel

 

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Hello, As I wanna show the main cabin / green house with all the breadfruit plants, I first finished the outer hull planking and have strengthen the whole construction with vertical strips simulating the frames of the ship whereupon I did some radical de-construction and have cut the bulkheads down to the level of the lower deck. A lot of sanding is needed yet, indeed. 

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

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Hello, today I could cut the Holy stripes for the planking and have started with the deck-planking of the main cabin.

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Daniel

 

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Hello,

 

Meanwhile I could finish the planking for the great cabin as well as the waterway around it and fix it in place.

 

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

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Daniel:

This is a very nice model so far. You are doing great work. Regarding the upper edge of the copper, the wooden batten was the method used at that time. She was not coppered until she was bought and refitted by the Royal Navy.

 

Russ

 

 

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Hello Russ,

 

Thank you for your information and your compliment. I definitively will copper her. But step by step. Meanwhile I did a little work on the partition panel to the great cabin and treated it with linseed oil. However, I suppose I need to paint it white. I couldn't found a source if the cabin was painted in a light colour as usual on Navy ships. But it might be a logical thing as a light surface would reflect incoming rays of light from the small stern windows much efficient than a wooden surface and too, it would be much better for the breadfruit plants. To bring as much as possible from those plants to the colonies was the mission.IMG_6576.thumb.jpg.2789e02e9158617b21fc13992e9ed2b7.jpgIMG_6577.thumb.jpg.9ce819bc76f0b9a21d6a06b8a49d0207.jpgIMG_6578.thumb.jpg.e2e0043f4c82b84d3805f89f020338d1.jpgIMG_6580.thumb.jpg.9f8a59170b0e7e20aad0efde1d235940.jpgIMG_6581.thumb.jpg.0b608ce894826a57f3f13b5b661e28e8.jpg

 

Daniel

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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That is some very nice work on the partition and the paneling. Paint if you must, but I would have a hard time covering that finish. It is very nice as it is.

 

Russ

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Thanks Russ,

 

This is exactly what I feel now.

Daniel

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Hello,

 

Next I am on to work on the inner planking of the great cabin. In his book AOTS Bounty McKay suggests additional paneling. Might it be real option or is this fiction? Additionally, his design for the inboard paneling does not correspond to his own design for the partition paneling as can be clearly seen on the second picture below. Sometimes all the information are up front but discrepancies became realised in the moment of doing. Has anyone an idea or recommendation regarding the inboard paneling?

 

Thanks in advance,

DanielIMG_6583.thumb.jpg.ae99aedf3e92dd5d3634684722398a8d.jpgIMG_6584.thumb.jpg.c6fd7e6835b7b230199d8ae03254e38a.jpg

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Daniel:

I may be wrong , but I rather doubt anyone really knows the true appearance of the cabin's interior. Since you have already created a nice looking partition, I would continue with that style for the cabin walls. However, see what others might offer. They may have a better idea.

 

Russ

 

 

 

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Hello Russ,

 

You are right, we may never know the real appearance of the cabin. I did some research in my books and did some thinking about the logical options for the panelling. In the AOTS Bounty, the spirketting is noted with 3 strakes of 3in thickness (3/64 in 1-64 scale) whilst the quickwork for the inner planking is 2in thick only (1/32 in 1:64 scale). In correlation with the waterway there is no space to add some panelling onto the spirketting but on the quickwork.

 

For the spirketting I've used two layers of 1/16 x 3/32 to get the bending at the stern in better shape. After a little sanding it became down to the matching thickness of 3/64. For the quickwork I used stripes of 1/32 x 3/32.


When I will have finished the starboard planking of the cabin and finally fixed the partition panelling I will think about the panelling layout in correlation to the deck beams. As usual; one step after the next.

 

Daniel

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Daniel:

I think that looks fine just the way it is. Very nicely done.

 

Russ

 

 

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Thanks Russ, Meanwhile I did some progress on the starboard quickwork and decided to paint the cabin white, as it probably really was. Next step is the panelling of the rest of the cabin.

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Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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