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Hi guys. Well this is my first build log. I've always been a lover of history and especially the age of sail. One day the idea dawned on me that I could stoke my imagination and get a lot of enjoyment out building models of these beautiful vessels. That led me to start researching a good kit for me to get started on. I chose the bounty by mamoli because it rated at intermediate to beginner, has a fascinating history and hopefully will be a great learning curve and stepping stone towards working on bigger first rate models in the future. I don't know anyone in person who also has worked on model sail ships, so finding the cofidence to proceed with the various steps in my build so far has been nerve wrecking without being able to talk to someone about what I'm doing or getting critiqued on my progress. I suppose at this stage I should mention that I am about 10 weeks into my build. And have been inspired by some of the nice build logs on here to create my own. Up until now I haven't taken many photos at all. But that will change. I would greatly appreciate anyone's constructive criticisms or helpful tips for my model. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist and look forward to being able to learn as much as possible so I can my Bounty as close to perfection that my abilities will allow.

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This is my progress so far. I have just about finished the first layer of planking on my bounty. I just have a few wedges to add into the stern and then I will give it a sand. I am moderately satisfied with the first planking. There are a few minor bumps along the hull that I'm not sure how they got there but I'm hoping that a good sanding job along with a bit of wood filler will create a good surface for my second planking.

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Your planking looks great! I look forward to seeing more!

-Elijah

 

Current build(s):

Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

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Well I am a little bit over due for an update...I am currently a bit further along than what the pictures show but I thought I would post tonight what pictures I do have. So far I have sheathed the transom and the under transom blocks. Sheathed another layer for the bulwarks (exterior). I planked down to (please forgive if I am wrong with any of my ship terminology). What I understand to be the wales. I have found this to be slightly frustrating. Mamoli did not supply enough wood for them. So I spent a bit of time tracking down a good model timber supplier that I could order the needed walnut from. I eventually succeeded in this and I was able to continue with my build, as you can see in the pictures however some of the walnut is much darker than the rest of the wood in the wales. I was lucky this time because I was planning on painting them black anyway. So far I have used erasers padded board and rubber bands to dry the wet planks into what I understand to be an edge bended shape. It seems to be working quite well so far hopefully I'll be able to avoid drop planks in the upper bands at least.

I decided to make an accounting of the planks I had left, something that I now realize I should of done from the start

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Doing a wonderful job. The bow of this ship is quite a hard one to plank. Good work.

Regards, Scott

 

Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli

 

Completed builds:

1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli  -  1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli  -  1:54 Adventure, Amati  -  1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL

1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli  -  1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel  -  1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal

 

Awaiting construction:

1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL  -  1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard

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I used the hull planking tutorial from this site for my Bounty. The lines you have look good. It's a real pain trying to match wood for the same shades but I hope you have it sorted.

Regards, Scott

 

Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli

 

Completed builds:

1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli  -  1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli  -  1:54 Adventure, Amati  -  1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL

1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli  -  1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel  -  1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal

 

Awaiting construction:

1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL  -  1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard

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I hope the woods work well together!

-Elijah

 

Current build(s):

Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

Member of:

The Nautical Research Guild

N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)

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Well...it’s been to long since my last update. Life is hectic...mix that in with a combination of moving house, working too much and admittedly being a little discouraged by the repetitive and long planking process. Has all held me back from working on my bounty for too long. 

But I’m back...I’m settled into a new house and have put aside a corner of the house to get stuck into her. I’ve been back at the Bounty for a few weeks now and I’ve really enjoyed it. The second planking is pretty much done! Those last planks that runs along the sides of the keel took a while to carve out. Although I’ve enjoyed the last few weeks I’ll be glad to move onto something else for a while and move the Bounty upright 😁. Until it comes to scraping the hull and sanding just before painting anyway.

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I originally chose this kit because it’s supposedly a good kit to learn with. And I’ve learned so much already. Firstly. I made the mistake of assuming that all the materials required for the completion of the kit would indeed be included in the kit. My first mistake 😂. The shortage or skimping of materials in this mamoli kit is quite frustrating. So far every material I have used except for the frames and 1st planking has been short. Oh well. All part of the learning process I suppose. 

The next thing I have learned is when ordering new timbers for my build I have noticed the differing quality of said timbers. I wouldn’t say with my limited experience, that the timbers that did come with my kit are bad. But the new timbers I ordered seem to be very nice. In the future I’ll be sure to assess the quantity and the quality of timbers and either proceed or order more.  

I’m not entirely satisfied with my second planking job. Particularly with the bow. But I’ve heard and read that the bow on the bounty can be tricky, so I take some comfort from this that hopefully it will be a little nicer looking and easier in the future.

Here the planking officially completed minus the scraping and sanding. Now to reinforce the bulwarks and get the protruding frames ready to cut off and level down to the deck. Sounds like risky business 😕...wish me luck

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Update!   I’ve done most of the deck planking and I am actually quite happy with it...I think the simulated caulking looks decent 😁  

I’ve also got together some scrap wood and built the display stand to start experimenting with sanding and scraping in prep for different polyurethanes, to see what look is better for the hull

 

Now to finish placing a few of side planks and then the simulated tree nails with a needle and a sharp pencil. I suppose after that I’ll give it a scrape and then give it a protective coat of something...🤔  open to ideas anyone? 😁

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Hi Vinnie the build is looking good, nice one.  I'm currently working on the Bounty but I'm at the rigging stage.  As for finishing I'm afraid it's sandpaper and good old elbow grease as there is no substitute.  Good luck and I'll enjoy watching your progress.

 

Cheers

Nigel

 

Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale  1:64,  started September 2021

Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021

HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019

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Hi leginseel. Thank you for the kind words! Nice build yourself too. I’ll be sure to reference your log and photos when I reach the rigging stage. Who knows when that’s gonna be 🤯. Thanks for the advice I have already gone with a Matt varnish though. I think it looks not to bad 😁...I will post some photos soon of my current progress and hopefully someone agrees lol

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Well I have glue drying and there’s not much I can do until it’s done...so now would be a good time to show you guys where I’m up to😁! 

So far I’ve taken some artistic liscence and added some treenails to the deck. And then gave it a thorough scrape and a light sand.60C25924-A709-4996-B35F-1E27C2A194D0.thumb.jpeg.c8e55bd234aa2bc7e6e0a21e035233fc.jpeg

 I then gave it 2 coats of estapol polyurethane Matt varnish 5C1DF9A5-DFEE-4712-B850-1BD28772EE39.thumb.jpeg.003c673a011e1157b5da3b82e11bb1e7.jpeg0B61F2D1-F9B8-4296-9FE2-2177D670C214.thumb.jpeg.05cd3b9390dc4bf8e92166ae369e7a88.jpeg

i then planked the keel..quite a fiddley job...but I’m happy with how it turned out. D32C43ED-F0FD-4119-8508-C195C1A3060C.thumb.jpeg.cbedae673258bfb2c437c2ed15e45dcb.jpeg4FC97762-B93D-4F30-9808-7036BD8A6A71.thumb.jpeg.9f65da2250b659daec1505f5ab0e9818.jpeg

I then cut out the 4 gunports in the bulwarks...my hat comes off to all the man o’war builders out there who cut out anywhere approaching 100 plus of these buggers! Although I do look forward to the time when I can try and tackle that many 😁...one job that wasn’t particularly thrilling was marking the waterline. I spent nearly a whole weekend trying to keep the boat level both ways while trying to mark it with a fixed pencil 😥 I’m definitely going to do some research into how others mark their water lines when I do my next build 😃...notice I said “when” lolDC0C98E3-F3CA-42E4-8D7C-AF18DE50DC5B.thumb.jpeg.3dee9cc23b67bd01aa51adbbac648930.jpegimage.thumb.jpg.d8abbd20def774b02c12c01a0febd73d.jpg

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Lovely work Vinnie, that Bluff Bow looks fantastic and the deck totally realistic, nice one.

 

Cheers

Nigel

 

Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale  1:64,  started September 2021

Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021

HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019

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Nice work on the planking Vinnie....am impressed with the treenails as well. I was told for my first build not to do the Bounty as getting the planking right was not an easy job for a first timer. If this is your first build you've done a great job. Am keen to see how you progress on this build as further down the track I'm hoping to build this then the Endeavour!!!

You mentioned earlier that you had to buy some more wood. Out of interest where did you buy it from? 

Cheers...........Fernando :cheers:

 

 

Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale

 

Previous Builds - 

S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30

Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 

 

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Hey Fernando thanks for the kind words and encouragement...yes this is my first build. And yes I was told this bow was tricky when it was to late (after a bought it) too! My jaw drops when I look at some of the professional modelers out there who can do these shaped bows with maybe 1 drop plank 😳. I’ll be sure to follow your progress when you get started on your build Fernando. 

To where I bought the wood, because I live in Australia...i ordered my extra timbers from Modelers Central https://www.modelerscentral.com/Default.asp?  

The wood was really good quality actually. If I had of known I’d of run out of second planking before I started I’d of done the whole planking with the ordered timbers.

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Hi Vinnie, I've bought a few things from modellers central (the Norfolk model kit and the HM Cutter Mermaid) as well as getting a Christmas gift of the Brig Perseverance. I've found these kits to be good and when I have commented on some of the quality of the fittings (blocks in particular) they have immediately replaced them free of charge...mailed out to me the same day! 

I look forward to further updates on your build.

 

Cheers..........Fernando:cheers:

Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale

 

Previous Builds - 

S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30

Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 

 

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Update 😁!  The bounty is looking quite different now...even though the majority of the last weeks I’ve spent not actually working on my bounty. The majority was spent puppy proofing my shipyard for a new member of the family image.thumb.jpg.0d078cbf63d2825034edbe9a906b04f9.jpg

but anyhow in the last couple of days this is what I have done to the bounty 7D430919-C444-492D-884D-11127D2DB168.thumb.jpeg.848d62dd8e35ff2d71f89548e39c15ed.jpeg63BF52C6-6E65-430C-98FD-481E753E05AD.thumb.jpeg.096c2efa4bd404bc85adf4ddaca11e98.jpegcarved out the rudder...this was so satisfying to make and I’m really happy with how it came out. 63BF52C6-6E65-430C-98FD-481E753E05AD.thumb.jpeg.096c2efa4bd404bc85adf4ddaca11e98.jpegF880DE02-5C5D-4B22-83AA-7EC146751DA4.thumb.jpeg.107b0cdb77a9c144d7817ddfdf937696.jpegthese rudder hinges weren’t the nicest to work with. Quite brittle...oh well I’ll remember to order more next time...and I managed 😁AA4D1BF3-2212-4104-B908-183D551325CF.thumb.jpeg.1f20b6301ec4377884a43f4b6bd37545.jpeg3EAE219A-A0E8-468A-A2DC-BD352DA5AEB3.thumb.jpeg.78bdf4dfb14a4b7847f53f62a70883ea.jpegI painted well er textered the wales. It was very nervous risky work with a permanent marker...but I took precautions. I’m happy with the deep Matt black color B52126C2-8691-4149-9D24-6AB99ECDC6DC.thumb.jpeg.d704166a579bb038f9daa3b63d5d302e.jpegCAA4CBC5-FCDF-4739-8148-CA51DDF45598.thumb.jpeg.b7fb651fa9f24b46145de82380266324.jpegpainting the waterline was tricky...the wales make it hard/impossible to properly put down tape to give u a clean waterline. But again, I managed! I went with 3 coats of a white acrylic from modelers central that is supposedly especially for model ships...I’m not sure...I don’t know anything about paints. Speaking of paints if anyone could tell me what they think of airbrushing compared to paintbrushing I’d be delighted to hear? If it is a better quality paint job I’d consider it for my next model. 450FCB7E-31F4-4182-8C22-1A1437226E90.thumb.jpeg.576fb7a6686ce599942dca1cfbdbd7e0.jpegF96E99BE-6CB6-46B3-BF25-DA67364B85BD.thumb.jpeg.09f130bcbb2544960641ca194ce97323.jpeg0F4830CF-EBB0-46E2-A94F-1D91AC8445C9.thumb.jpeg.fa83c733177705365a66a923430332f5.jpeg 0662389A-86BC-4DD0-AED0-966837FDFCD4.thumb.jpeg.ac202b04468ea6b1c77674fbaa7b2adc.jpegthen I went with boiled linseed oil for the rest of the timber...let me know your honest thoughts guys. I don’t mind it at all, but am eager to hear other opinions. 

With regards to the color scheme as a whole that I’ve gone with I realize that it’s not entirely historicaly acurate. And I’m usually a big stickler for that sort of thing...but in the end the desire to show off some timber with a nice finish or 2 got the better of me. Besides I tell myself that the bounty could of looked like this before the Royal Navy bought her when she was a merchant ship 😃...who knows.  

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and finally...attached the chains to the rudder to the ship. And now it’s on to some of the furniture and fittings on the deck! ...this is gonna be heaps fun! 

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Nice work Vinnie and welcome to your new shipmate!

As to the wood finish, I'm with you on not painting too much as wood finishes look great on these ships. If you like it, go with it!

Cheers...........Fernando

Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale

 

Previous Builds - 

S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30

Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 

 

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1 hour ago, Fernando E said:

Nice work Vinnie and welcome to your new shipmate!

As to the wood finish, I'm with you on not painting too much as wood finishes look great on these ships. If you like it, go with it!

Cheers...........Fernando

Haha thanks Fernando...although she is a very messy sailor...I think some tough training is therefore in order😄...

And thanks...looking forward to seeing what color scheme and wood finishes u go with on your future builds!

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Hi Vinnie.

Nice build. I like your planking..style. 

Puppy are really usefully in the dockyard... chewing every piece of dropped timber.

 

Looking good.

Will follow along with your build. Seat booked.

 

Regards Antony.

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On ‎26‎/‎03‎/‎2018 at 1:27 PM, Vinnie said:

Speaking of paints if anyone could tell me what they think of airbrushing compared to paintbrushing I’d be delighted to hear? If it is a better quality paint job I’d consider it for my next model. 

Beautiful work as ever Vinnie and welcome to your new crew member.  Like you I brush painted my hull and after I looked at a number of other logs on here and the quality of airbrushed paint looked far superior.  So I persuaded my son to buy me an airbrush compressor for my 60th birthday and it's wonderful.  It took a little practice but the results are great.  Also I use it to give the whole model an acrylic varnish which protects it and doesn't affect the colour.  It wasn't expensive - around £80 I think and then you'll need a couple of airbrushes plus cleaning kit.  I would highly recommend it and if you need anymore info let me know.

 

Cheers

Nigel

 

Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale  1:64,  started September 2021

Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021

HMS Bounty, Constructo - Scale 1:50 - First wooden kit build, finished April 2019

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6 hours ago, leginseel said:

Beautiful work as ever Vinnie and welcome to your new crew member.  Like you I brush painted my hull and after I looked at a number of other logs on here and the quality of airbrushed paint looked far superior.  So I persuaded my son to buy me an airbrush compressor for my 60th birthday and it's wonderful.  It took a little practice but the results are great.  Also I use it to give the whole model an acrylic varnish which protects it and doesn't affect the colour.  It wasn't expensive - around £80 I think and then you'll need a couple of airbrushes plus cleaning kit.  I would highly recommend it and if you need anymore info let me know.

 

Thanks leginseel for your recommendation! I think I’ll definitely look into it😁

 

and thanks to to everyone for the likes and comments 👍🏻 

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Well hello all my fellow ship masters 😁!  It’s been a few days and I may as well show you all where I’m up to! Working on the furniture on my bounty has been time consuming but very enjoyable. I regret not taking more step by step photos of my progress to talk about challenges I’ve encountered. But i will show you what I have taken 2FF9DB27-ED70-414C-BE74-DC0D00DC7877.thumb.jpeg.c1ec2ae0dac9ab4f7106031b3d4d8c57.jpeg2EF955C8-6522-438A-BD66-152CFFCCF8E8.thumb.jpeg.c8306c88bb7bcb7bf65ab57b0a291980.jpegFirst I attached the belay pin rack at the bow bulwark. Then I fitted what my plans refer to as “bitts” which I found amusing because my plans usually use exotic nautical terms to describe every piece of my boat so far. These “bitts” refer to the the 2 support poles right on top of the bow bulwark, that the bowsprit will wit between once installed. Then it came time for the cat davits (the sturdy wooden poles for the anchors) I struggled to find an accurate way to install them to match the exact same angle of the plans. So went out and bought an angle finder and measured the exact angle off the plans and then rubber banded it to the deck. This is one of the methods I wish I’d taken photos of...but was having so much fun that I forgot ☹️. Anyway...I was very happy with the results. And then next the “bitts” that sit further back from the belay pin rack and will sit over the end of the bowsprit once installed. Very fiddly carving it all from scratch, but very enjoyable. Then drilled the anchor holes in the deck. B3F9B475-9417-4EB4-9D92-50DCA4F5D5AC.thumb.jpeg.7b27c7bcdd3d55b47c2419a8fcada849.jpegnext I installed the belay pin rack around the fore mast. 6076D1E6-2619-4B7B-AE0D-B50ACA25C724.thumb.jpeg.41bec544969d83aee2799431b133e0e7.jpegThe pin rack around the mast was tricky to get to sit square because of minute differences in the groove cuts for the pin boards. Also my plans call for a small piece of brass to be drilled into bottom of most of the deck furniture so it can be glued into the deck with extra strength. Since I know nothing about rigging I can only assume that there must be considerable strain on some of these parts later on in my build. Either way...this deck furniture isn’t going anywhere. Next I constructed the “windlass” the rolling barrel/log that the anchor ropes attach to. I spent a couple of days sanding and cutting it into shape and am happy with how it came out. Then put in the bell 🛎...the chimney and then constructed the small grating on the port side and installed it.66E374A6-1EE8-473D-9F0D-02F3FCED5AF6.thumb.jpeg.618d13ab11caefcb24ea22798a62ecc4.jpeg1E6F8311-29E0-46B8-8FDB-FC488D3C11CB.thumb.jpeg.83cb4ff5706b3158ef0176700749a674.jpegall this process would have been much faster if my first officer wasn’t asleep on her watch all the time 😠 (Btw she’s not dead...she likes small spaces for her naps) 29976F87-BF9F-4418-870B-0F3B598B79A6.thumb.jpeg.02ffcc46c083acbe9f9989b8a75c5d9c.jpegC0152E28-49DC-4D2A-A0B0-837F9DE2A4DC.thumb.jpeg.511d6cc7e317a1e5f1dec9d53addd279.jpegnext installed the side pin racks next to the windlass. D70AF1F6-A719-456A-9D8B-CC731C331F4A.thumb.jpeg.2227bc32548c5dcfb890cf9a6259f540.jpegThen started constructing the gratings that the launch boat will rest on. The plans call for these port holes to be installed in the side. However the timber I have to drill into is only 5 mil wide and the port wholes 3.5 at the base and 5 mil on the surface. So when drilling the 3.5 the timber would split every time. Not to mention I was nervous about having to drill underneath so close to the surface of my gratings and ruining it. So I had to do a bit of looking around to find smaller port holes both in depth and surface width. I still had issues with splitting wood...so I put these black paper clips on my timber and so far so good 😊  I believe I succeed and this the end result. D0F04776-54DF-4112-BD9D-102F1F368A01.thumb.jpeg.923dc1966292d394a05d6f4ee52c8089.jpegHad to slowly widen the drill hole to minimize the chance of splitting...23810383-2F6C-4C64-AEAD-F3DD0285994B.thumb.jpeg.8813c97a5d1cdc614963d9d25d2d3e77.jpegfound my first officer sleeping on the job again 😡...good thing she’s too cute for traditional naval discipline! 

 

And that’s where I’m up to folks! If anyone is curious in the future to know how I’ve done anything please ask 😁...and look forward to anyone’s criticism so I can learn

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Nice work Vinnie....coming along very nicely. Your shipmate seems to be slacking off though!!!

 

Cheers..............Fernando :cheers:

Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale

 

Previous Builds - 

S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30

Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36 

 

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