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Anthony,

I'd go with what Bob said.   Danny V. did that on his center section he's building and it's very effective.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Hi.

Thank you for all the likes.

Progress is good. Made the ladders for the upper deck today and fitted then. Made the remaining handrails.

And tidied up my man shed.

Sealing the roof when time allows next week. Just going to use clear varnish and sanding to get the finish required.

Need to find some rope that 2.5mm approximately. Bit stuck on this ATM.

Lots of sewing to be done on the sails.

 

Well that's about it for now.

Thanks for looking in.

 

Antony.

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Hi Antony

               Cornwall model boats has some 2.5mm rigging cord here http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/amati_rigging_thread.html

and 2.25mm here http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/caldercraft_C82250N.html

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Hi.

Thanks bob. I forgot that CMB has everything... ordered

 

Hi Kees de mol.

Im'e glad you like it.

 

Regards Antony.

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Wow !! Antony, this is an amazing build ....great work.

 

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

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Antony, I have come late to the party but I must say your work on this ship is simply amazing! The precision of your joints and detail level is unbelievable. Well done sir! I look forward to seeing more of her as you continue.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

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O boy, am I the poorer for not looking into this build earlier Antony; beautiful work! A very interesting subject, and excellent execution especially noting you have built from photographs and scant information.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

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Hello and thank you for all the likes and wonderful comments.

Have been busy with the boss having a new kitchen fitted.

But have made lots of progress in the time that I have spent on the model.

Not yet taken any photos of the updates but will do that later on in good daylight.

Have finished making all the deck and Hull decoration bits.

Cladding plates are on the roof.

Just need to add the 1435 pins into the plates now..... and the spikes.

Having thought about using metal for the spikes/ blades but I am concerned about someone damaging themselves on the ship.

So I will use tooth picks that will protrude 14mm from deck. And not be glued in for safety reasons.

This ship will look like a cross from a Turtle Imperial Arowana fish and a Hedgehog, a link to the fish http://www.imperialarowana.com/gallery.php?gid=129-6ccaac45d9

Sails, still not sure if I will add them yet. If I do I am thinking of using Egyptian cotton.

 

Will post photos later on today.

 

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

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Hi.

A update as promised.

 

The dragons head is now in place.. No its not by my hand.. its a resin cast one.

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Tiles covering the roof are now finished.

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This is a test piece to check on the tile fixings. i will be using the black bottom pins as I think they look better. some 2400 in total...Wish me luck and retained sanity. With cocktail sticks in the centres.

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Close up of the tiling.

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And another.

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Yet another...

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Cannons in there carriages or boxes. Need to be finished and put into place on model when finished.

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Close up of the carriages..Now you can see that they need finishing. 

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Thanks for looking in.

 

Many thanks Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

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Very nice work. I love the way you have sections open to view inside and the removable sections to open it up even more. With the detail work you have done it would be a shame to not be able to see it.

 

I agree with you that the black pins look better. You will have your work cut out for you on all of those! 

 

You said the dragon head was a resin cast, did it come painted too or was that you? Either way it looks really cool.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

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Wow! What a spectacular find and superb work Antony. This build really piques my interest and I shall pull up a chair and follow from now on. Such precise work.

 

Best, Ian

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Just incredible, Anthony.   I can see why you'd want to go with removable spikes.  Will you be blackening the plates or leaving them copper?  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Hi.

Thank you all for looking in and the likes.

EJ The dragons head came painted . I like the colours also. I was going to paint it myself but it's just fine as it is.

Mark. The plates will remain copper. Most of the hull fittings were made of copper in Asian ships during this time period. They did not use any steel in there ships at all.

Need a nice day now with no one disturbing me so I can focus on drilling the plates pin holes. Music. Lots of tea. 0.4 mm drill. Dremel.

 

Have a nice one.

 

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

Completed Mayflower

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Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship

Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia

On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45

Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section

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Thanks for the explanation, Anthony.  I've seen some models where the plates looked like iron your explanation helped.

 

I hope you get a good day or two for drilling.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Just Beautiful!! Antony..... looks like it's a real ship!!!

 

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

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Hi.

Thanks Frank.

Ime about a 1/8 of the way drilling the 0.4 mm holes for the roof plate pins. And I needed all the likes and nice comments .

Will post a few photos of the roof when completed.

Back to the Dremel.

 

Thanks for looking in Frank.

 

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

Completed Mayflower

Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat

Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk

Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship

Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia

On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45

Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section

Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section

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Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section

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just walking past a desk at work today and spotted a turtle ship in a case (will send a pic later) that looks like the kit you got...

 

A chat revealed STX, a Korean shipbuilding customer, helped build either a replica or rebuild ( we didnt know which). It may well be the one in pics on internet. I have a couple of contacts there, so will see if I can get some pics of the build.... however unless you intend to copy the modern one exactly, I dont think you need to fit a Cummins K19 engine, which is what they have done to avoid using the oars! (reminds me of the 'Endeavour' copy at Whitby :D )

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Well done Antony,

 

beautiful and exotic, great handcraft work, this is an excellent and most interesting model......

Your photosession is also fantastic, also of the inside of the "turtle"

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hi.

Yes please to the photos.. post them here if you want..

Thanks Nils.

It's been a while since my last post on the Turtle ship. With new kitchen then health with our young man not being that good. Plus my shed (man space) as it's called needing work.

I've not got any work done.. nails in the roof is next witch will take some time as there are over a 800 plates and each plate will have 8 nails.

Daunting job.

Will start on it when my current project is complete. A TREASURE BOX for my daughters first baby.

 

Thanks for looking in.

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

Completed Mayflower

Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat

Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk

Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship

Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia

On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45

Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section

Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section

Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen

Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section

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Really interesting project. I've never seen this ship type before. Very well done, Anthony

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

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from my friend in Korea....

Anyways, this is one good website I found:

http://xn--v69ass944a3gcpygusa09vqud1t9b.kr/3story/story_01_2.html

 

Also, you have found more useful pictures when using Korean to search on google. Please try this:

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=%EA%B1%B0%EB%B6%81%EC%84%A0&espv=2&biw=1152&bih=592&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiq-NahqNfRAhVMM48KHQG2BHcQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=%EA%B1%B0%EB%B6%81%EC%84%A0+%EB%8F%84%EB%A9%B4

 

If this does not work, try copying and pasting this into the search bar:

거북선 도면

It translates as “Geobukseon drawing”, Geobukseon is basically the turtleship.

 

from the links, looks like this ship is the equivalent of the mary rose! If you use google chrome, it will translate into english (badly, but you get the drift!) 

http://www.geojenews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=8300

 

This has internal shots... I like the hats hanging up! Hope it inspires you to get back to the workbench! :)

http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=03c63&articleno=13225556&categoryId=559478&regdt=20071109213722

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Hello Chidokan.

Thank you very much for that information. And yes many more pictures and information.

The more I read about the Turtle ship the more I like her.

Please thank your friend in Korea.

 

Thanks again.

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

Completed Mayflower

Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat

Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk

Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship

Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia

On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45

Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section

Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section

Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen

Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section

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Hi.

Its been a few months since I last posted on this build log.  Sorry.

Life and another model got in the way..

Started work on the build again last week.

Made and installed the locking pins for the main cross beams.

Added the simple decorations around the ship.

Cannons have been placed in the withdrawn position.

The sculling oars have been completed but not yet placed on the model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX8MFCfGPnM Link shows there method of Sculling. Even the oar shape.

 

After some more research I have decided not to add the spikes on the roof. I know that most photos and drawings have them on. but I think that the enemy would have walked around then and also they would have been able to hold onto the spikes to stop them falling overboard.

My thoughts at that they has holes in the roof and the lancers would thrust there lances up through the holes killing the enemy.

Research shows that most solders aboard were either Bowmen or Lancers. So what else is a lancer supposed to do with a roof on ??

The enemy ships were bigger and higher than the Korean ships.

So holes only it is.  Right or wrong. Another thought has crossed my mind that it would be much safer to display.

 

Also I believe that the Koreans would not have used there sails for battle. Sculling oars only so the mast slots in the top of the roof have been added and the mast and sails removed.

Will take a few photos when I get some sunlight... Not much of that in the UK at the moment.

 

Thanks for looking in.

Regards Antony.

Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask.

Completed Mayflower

Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat

Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk

Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship

Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia

On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45

Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section

Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section

Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen

Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section

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Good to see you back on this build Antony. I think you are correct in the method of fighting the lancers would take. It does make the most sense and I agree that the spikes would definitely benefit the enemy more than hamper them. Unless they were there just for intimidation purposes? Most likely it is more along the lines of what you said, the lancers used holes to thrust their spears through and the image of that when painted made it appear that the roof had spikes.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

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Hi Antony,

I just had a look again at some sequences of the build log, and I must say, its an exciting ride....  :)

I also like the the own set obligations you mentioned in your introduction ( no paint, etc..., )

 

lovely build !!

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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