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Well about time for another uupdate although not very much has happened. The weather has been very good for weeks in a row now so little progress.

 

But Starboard side I finished up to the 3rd whale. I had to do some correction on 2 gunports. Which is the second time but it was still not ok, I simply dont understand why as I checked tripple times before.

 

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And here after correction. After sanding it is hard to even see the inserts. I used insert pieces to lower the ports instead of replacing a full plank. I was afraid that removing a whole plank would damage too much.5b45d3d3e10ef_20180710_162529(Custom).thumb.jpg.ed682a8b3a05535475fe855bccdbe634.jpg

 

Nest steps are the portside planking and the 3rd whale.

 

Rgds Hans.

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Well i am finshed with plancking up to the third whale on both sides now. Both sides had the same flaw with wrongly placed gunports which have been corrected now.

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Below picture does not show the correction yet but the camera (GSM) also has some distortion and the angel differs from the picture below of the starboard side, so it is not as bad as it seems. In the mean time this side has been corrected as well.

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Now I started working on the gunports and the rabbets. To make the gunports I made a sanding tool, 2 sides sandpaper only. It works great although slow but accurate. It makes it easy for me to make sure the ports are perpendicular (thanks google).

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All the rabbets are oversized in lenght, so I will make them fit and than protrude them and sand them to follow the hull. Then I will have them fall back about 1.5mm and sand the inside equal to the inside planks. I will not fasten them until I am ready to move up and start on the upper deck.

But before starting the upper deck I have to decide how far I will go. Do I install canons or not, only a wooden model or closed gunports???? havn't made my mind up about that yet.

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Secondly I still have to come up with a good working method to make the gunport hatches. including the dilution to fall into the rabbet.

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So all in all a lot to do still.

 

Hans.

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Well its been more then a month, time for an update. I finished both sides with the gunport inserts/rabbits It took me the majority of the past months.

Still also some small corrections but I am happy withe results.

 

In between sides I stopped for some diversion to work on the gunport lids and hinges, just as a test. But I am not satisfied. I have to find an easier method to make them in qty.

 

For now the work will stop a couple of weeks for holiday. The next step I decided to do the rudder anew. I made that in an too early stage and I want to improve it and more realistic. I just became more and more unhappy with it.

 

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Just a short update. Its been very quiet and I haven't done much.

I have had surgery on my hand and that takes more time as expected. I also neglected to take it easy and that put me back again a couple of weeks.

 

Also the motivation is low. The weather is cold and bad and I need to go outside to the shed.So I guess it will be untill next year before I will continue. Don't worry I'll be back :)!

 

Hans

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sorry to hear that recovery is slow.   take care and let your hand heal........much more important ;)    looking forward to your continuance of this wonderful project.

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finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Hans, I just spent my lunch break reading through your build log and wow!! A very educational build indeed. Sorry to hear about your surgery and setbacks on recovery. Hopefully, that will turn around for you and your hand will heal up correctly. I look forward to watching you continue your work once you are healed and the weather is nicer.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

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Let it heal and don't push it, Hans.  Continue only when the doctor says you can.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Marvelous work Hans and take care of your health.

See you next year and have a great holiday season.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Hi all, (do not want to be gender specific....;))

I have returned to the hobby again after a full recovery of my hand. Thanks for all the good whishes.

Just waiting to get the right hand done, but that will be spring somewhere. not just yet...

 

I have started redoing the rudder as said. I am using mainly the method used by Drazen (Thanks for that!) I think the photo's are mostly self explanatory. Its a slow learning curve but I like it very much although progress is slow.

I made the rudded out of seperate parts of wood, taking care of the grain direction as to prevent as much as possible deformation. And I decided to do the hinges also from scratch. Previously I used Amati hinges.

 

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In the background the Amati hinges from the previous rudder.

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I had a big problem blackening the parts. I left them much too long in the solution and 2 were totally 'eaten' away. I did 4 pieces again.

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I on purpose made the bolting a little out of line. I like the looking of this.

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And now up to the counter part. I hope to finish today.

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Nice work on the rudder and hinges Hans.  Yes, Drazen's work is also great.  I have been following him as well. Why? you may ask - - - I love these Dutch ships!

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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I finished the rudder. I am really satisfied with it. I will not fasten i yet. Only in a later stage, just to prevent damages.

 

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In the meantime we have advanced. I build a new clamping/workboard. As there is no longer need to hang the ship upside down and I want free space to work all around the ship.

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The next steps are working gradually upwards now. I have to finish everything around the main gundeck before I can close the next deck.

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A test with a 3D printed model of the emblem

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Filling the gap to be able to add the planking

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Then the gunport rabbits and hatches

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Rabbit sanded to follow the hull.

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More than a month ago so maybe time to give an update. Steadily working through the gunport hatches, a tedious and boring job.

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Working the hatches into place and adding the gunwale parts.523697745_20190412_160422(Custom).thumb.jpg.d6d09437692826fa483cbfdde3bcc4bb.jpg

 

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But I am happy with the looks. Not too tight and perfect. I like it that way, as I am sure ships in those days weren't neither.1928273355_20190424_152117(Custom).thumb.jpg.4fd4fdf635567555ec9078b185141fe9.jpg

Then the insides grounding.

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And I still like how it came about.. The next steps will be finishing the maingun deck so I added some loose parts that I build earlier for the looks. I guess any builder wants to see how it will look and cant wait to see the whole....??

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Also I will be doing the final masts at least first parts, as I have been using too short counterfits. Below the right lenght cuttings ready for working on them. This I will do first as I will be happy to turn from the monotonous work of the gunports.

 

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Another month passed by so time for another update. Not much has happened as we were out to the sun for a couple of weeks.

As said I continued with the masts, below the 3 masts are the final masts outlined and all..

This was quite some ado to get them in the right angels in both directions... langscheeps and dwarsscheep... (Longship and sideships???)

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Next step the ezelshoofd and hommer, the pictures speak for itself but there was some mindbraking involved to get what I liked.

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As the mast were too long form mu turning device  I had to invent a workabout...

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Very nice work Hans !!

a beautiful build...

 

Nils

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-Lightship Elbe 1

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- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

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Beautiful work indeed.

"A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor"
- John George Hermanson 

-E.J.

 

Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli

                    Royal Caroline - Panart

Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery

                                           La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery

                                           Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                           Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

Member : Nautical Research Guild

 

 

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catching up on your build.......so glad to see your feeling better!  I love the wood your using........stained or clear coated,  the grain is gonna POP! :) 

 

great job on the rudder and the gun ports are awesome.  it will be good to see her totally planked

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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July, and the weather keeps good here, too good to be really busy. But some progress was made. I proceeded with the main mast, cap and top and also the formast. I enjoyed making the top (mars). I needed some workabouts to get the nice round sphere.

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Fine tuning the size and shape.

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here the hings holding the outer ring are still too bulky, I sanded them into a smaller outline by hand.

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As you can se here. and the outer is glued and hold fast for drying by some tie wraps.

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Coated and dry fit on the mast

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The status as per today. Now the top for the foremast.

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Also some experimenting with oil colour for the hull and decks. The smaller parts like masts gratings ornaments will be in 'beits' the colour as per previous picture. 

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Very nice work Hans.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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1 hour ago, G.L. said:

Very nice maintop.

Is that oil paint for artist painters that you use to make your color?

Yes indeed. And I dilute it with pure white spirit. Learned in another thread here and on some other forum.

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  • 1 month later...

August. Not much progress, the weather keeps nice and warm so few hours to spend and also low motivation.

Finished the foremast and mars, same procedures used as foir the main mast.

 

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Then I worked the planking up to the rahout. I am now going to find a way to get (router??) the right profile for the Rahout.

Not easy as it will be 5-6mm by 2,5 to 3 mm.

I really have to build something here and make my own router bit.... Not easy

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  • 1 month later...

September. As said working on the Rahout and getting the right routerbit. I offered a proxxon bit for this, diamond sanding it to the right profile.

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This got me the right profile. I used walnut and not oak. I tried oak but that was to coarse to get a nice profile.

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Finished fitting them.

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Later on the difference in colour from the wallnut will dissappear after colouring.

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Then the kaapstaander. I will now finish all the parts of this gundeck so that as I start on the next deck this one can be fully fitted. Although I have not yet decided on guns.

I am thinking to leave this deck with closed gunhatches and only fit gund where you can see them whole.

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Rounding the squares pole was not always succesfull...

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Beautiful work, nice progress.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

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