donrobinson Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share #61 Posted October 20, 2017 Good Morning All, I was walking down the hall yesterday and seen this guy sitting there looking lonely so I thought it was time to bring him into the workshop and do a little work. So here is how he looked Then four hours later And here is a shot of the instruction booklet and part of the list to follow, the check marks are showing what is completed so far. Quite impressive considering this was started over a year ago. NOT!! Hopefully the pace will pick up now that my Trabakul is nearing completion. Have A Good One marktiedens, Robin Lous, coxswain and 13 others 16 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted October 20, 2017 Share #62 Posted October 20, 2017 Glad to see you back at it Don. I'm looking forward to watching your progress on what seems to be a really interesting kit. Bob zappto 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share #63 Posted October 22, 2017 Thanks Bob, I'm planning on giving this ship more attention, so hopefully more updates will be coming soon zappto and robdurant 2 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r63701 Posted October 31, 2017 Share #64 Posted October 31, 2017 Hi Don, as I mentioned working on Stefano planking, 1st planking, found that I have to use a wood filler on certain areas, ok quite a few areas, using CA glue for planking and have found difficulty in finding a filler that CA glue will bond to. Any suggestions ?? Robert Agassiz BC zappto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted October 31, 2017 Share #65 Posted October 31, 2017 Hi Don, looking forward to this new, resurrection build of yours! Ian Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share #66 Posted November 2, 2017 Hi Robert. with mine I'll be using "Dap DryDex" spackling. I've never ran into a problem with any filler not adhering to ca glue, that is very interesting. When I do mine I will be covering the whole hull with the spackling compound then sand off. I find this easier than just trying to "spot" fill. So for this method the spackling works better as it spreads so much easier. Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share #67 Posted November 2, 2017 Hi Ian, Thanks for stopping in. Yes this one has sat idle too long and it's time to make some progress on him. Seventynet 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share #68 Posted November 2, 2017 Good Morning All, A big Thanks for all the compliments, for stopping in and for all the likes much appreciated. After 32 strakes and over 160 planks the starboard side is completed. I completed this with all strakes going from stem to stern with no drop planks or stealers . The use of short planks made the job much easier to complete. Other than the sheer size of this hull it has so far been the easiest one to plank for me to date. This could have been completed much faster by not tapering the planks and just slapping on planks. But then what would you learn from that. My process was to measure each bulkhead calculate how many strakes required and the widths of the planks at each bulkhead, After three or four strakes I would measure again then adjust as required then just repeated this until finished. Enough of all this here are some pictures and a few explanations: In this picture I'm showing the jig I used to keep the garboard strake straight This picture is showing the taper required on the garboard strake as there is no rabbit line Showing the last few planks, although it does not look like it in the picture the space left is quite even The tools I use for sanding and scraping, nothing fancy but it works for me And how she looks now before any filling A little more fine tuning and it will be ready for some filler, but now it is on to the port side which has been already started Have a good day, and Thanks for stopping in Heronguy, Tim Curtis, Seventynet and 15 others 18 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronguy Posted November 3, 2017 Share #69 Posted November 3, 2017 Don, So glad to see the Stefano on you workbench. Isn't it great to see the hull planked - I personally like the planking step a lot! I've made the promise to myself to finish outfitting a workroom in my shed before I will start the Stefano - I was drywalling today so perhaps in a week or 2 I can open up the box and start following your "tutorial" I'll try to leave the 10 month gap out but I won't promise not to follow your example!! Please keep up your wonderful build logs - I learn much from them. robdurant, zappto and coxswain 3 Quote Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share #70 Posted November 3, 2017 Thanks so much Doug. A couple of good days work on the Trabakul and she will be finished at that point I will be spending most of my time on Stefano hoping to make up for lost time. You will really enjoy the planking and seeing the lines of this ship appear, it truly is a beauty Tim Curtis, zappto and Heronguy 3 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted November 11, 2017 Share #71 Posted November 11, 2017 Looks like another winner Don......... nice work!! Frank md1400cs and zappto 2 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share #72 Posted November 11, 2017 Thanks Frank, looking forward to seeing more on your Red Dragon riverboat and zappto 2 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted November 11, 2017 Share #73 Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) Don, Nice project! PS: Your Batelina is also brilliant work (:-) Regards, Edited November 11, 2017 by md1400cs zappto and Landlubber Mike 2 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted November 11, 2017 Share #74 Posted November 11, 2017 Looking great Don - very curvy lady! Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share #75 Posted November 28, 2017 Thanks Michael and Mike and to all those for the likes and comments. The first planking is completed now, filled, sanded and sealed. The second planking has begun, this is done using .5 x 4 mm strips cut to a length of 120 mm. I am using a 4 plank shift. I am not sure what type of wood it is, I am thinking maybe cherry. Whatever it is I am going to have a hard time painting it as it is starting to look real nice. Six strakes left of first planking I was trying to get a picture while the filler was still wet, it looked real tasty when it was all pink!! Here it is after the first initial sanding Sanded and sealed, I use a thin coat of wipe on poly then sand when dry. For some reason I cannot find sanding sealer around here, maybe on the next dog sled that comes through. Lol Marking of the waterline, temporary marking as below this is copper plated so the planks will not be seen and will not need to be exact lengths or properly staggered Showing pre-cut(120 mm) planks, space between vertical lines is 30 mm (120/4 = 30). Syringe is full of Weldbond the little plastic container has ca in it the red handled tool with a needle in the end is used for applying the ca Here I am showing how I glue my planks on. First apply the Weldbond then with the needle tool I'll spread ca between the lines of Weldbond. With this method no clamps are required and with careful application of the ca there is no staining of the wood. That's it for now, a week or so of doing this and I'll be back. Take Care and Thanks for dropping in Seventynet, John Allen, KenW and 8 others 11 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted November 28, 2017 Share #76 Posted November 28, 2017 Looks really great Don. This is going to work into a really nice model under your skilled hands. Interesting planking method by the way, thanks for sharing. I have never had any success with CA - always ends up being a big mess for me Is that your Pegasus in the background? Mine has been dormant while I've been working on my Morgan. Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lester Posted November 28, 2017 Share #77 Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Don, That's a very beautiful hull. Is a barque a little like a clipper? Looks like it might be, probably the rigging would be the main difference? I like the look of your gluing technique; I think I'll try it on my next one. David John Allen 1 Quote Current Build - St. Roch, Billing Boats; HMS Agamemnon, Caldercraft (on hold) Previous Builds - Armed Virginia Sloop, Model Shipways; Constitution, Model Shipways; Rattlesnake, Mamoli; Virginia Privateer, Marine Model Co, restoration; Prince de Neufchatel, Model Shipways; Charles W. Morgan, Model Shipways; Pride of Baltimore II, Model Shipways, Bluenose, Model Shipways (x2); Niagara, Model Shipways; Mayfower, Model Shipways; Shamrock V, Amati; HMS Pegasus, Victory/Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share #78 Posted November 28, 2017 Mike: Thanks so much. yes that is the Pegasus, it has been lacking attention lately but I do plan on doing a little more on her now. They are almost the same scale, Pegasus at 1;64 and Stefano at 1:63, the Stefano dwarfs Pegasus! Bob: Thanks, great of you to stop by, grab a chair there will be lots more David: Thank You. The gluing works great, I should have mentioned that I use medium viscosity ca, Super "T" from Lee Valley Landlubber Mike 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted November 29, 2017 Share #79 Posted November 29, 2017 Hey Don - had to search around to see what you're up to now that Trabakul is retired. This one looks cool. Interesting bow line. Think I'll tag along. Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share #80 Posted November 30, 2017 Thanks for dropping in Mike, it does have some beautiful lines and should prove to be a very interesting build Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshousha Posted November 30, 2017 Share #81 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Hi Don, It's nice to see this build moving along. Sorry I've been away from "real" modelling for a while now. I'm heavily into 3D building these days, specifically designing some parts for a "major manufacturer" for a new kit they're building. With my eyesight not very good, I have a great time with 3D building as I can zoom in as much as I like. I'll be continuing to follow this build as you move along. ...and, yes, I will eventually get through the Pickle model... Cheers, Rick Edited November 30, 2017 by rshousha Quote Rick Shousha Montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share #82 Posted November 30, 2017 Great to hear from you Rick, It has been a long time. Happy to hear you are keeping busy, as usual. Thanks so much for stopping in and I hope you keep watching. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted November 30, 2017 Share #83 Posted November 30, 2017 Hi Don, you have put some serious work into you build all the effort really looks to be paying off, really nice work going on there. OC. Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share #84 Posted December 2, 2017 Hello OC, Thanks for checking things out, with the length being over a meter it has been lots of work, but I am sure it will all pay off sometime in the future. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted December 3, 2017 Share #85 Posted December 3, 2017 1 meter - Good thing you don't like cases Old Collingwood and Landlubber Mike 2 Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share #86 Posted December 3, 2017 I agree Mike, I would need to re-mortgage my house. lol marktiedens, Heronguy, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted December 3, 2017 Share #87 Posted December 3, 2017 Hi Don! I decided to drop in and take a look at your build so I could better answer your question about bolts and nails on my own log. Very nice work so far! I'll pull up a chair and stick around to see how she comes along. Elijah and Old Collingwood 2 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted December 3, 2017 Share #88 Posted December 3, 2017 I'm in, also, Don. This ship has nice lines, and after your last build, I expect that you will do great things with this one. Looking forward to enjoying the process. Elijah, Old Collingwood, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share #89 Posted December 4, 2017 Thanks guys I appreciate this. Old Collingwood, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted December 4, 2017 Share #90 Posted December 4, 2017 Coming along nicely Don....... nice ! work on the planking.....That's my favorite part of the build Frank Landlubber Mike, Old Collingwood, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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