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On 22. 8. 2017 at 3:32 AM, donrobinson said:

She looks great!

:):):):):piratebo5:

Placed Mizzen topgallant sail ..

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The construction will soon be over, I'm stretching the last ropes and only the stern lantern is to be done..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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I'm finishing the rigging, most of the control ropes of Mizzen mast sails already tied..

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And other ties and rope roles ..

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A little coin measurement..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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I clamped the last control ropes of the mizen mast sails and the main yards tackle ..

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Again I have to pause over the functionality of the rigging. Everything works and after tying, "it" doesn't move a bit...:rolleyes:

 

Further measurements with harder currency .. 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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The last rope on the boat - Sheet, Tack..

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Finishing the build is a bit slow, as I have already begun building a new model .. 

 

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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I believe that you did an exceptional job with this kit!  Very well done!

 

My comments are not meant as criticism at all, but, I am still trying to figure out precisely what the kit is supposed to depict in  the eyes of the kit designers.  It has too few guns to be a Post Ship/Sloop-of-War, too many masts to be either a cutter (of which there were two named HMS President) or a Brig, and "HMS" applies to ships commissioned  into the Royal Navy. That rules out a merchantman.  I'm not sure about the type of ship stated on the box as being a "Light Frigate".  To the best of my mind, no such nomenclature ever existed.

 

Perhaps someone could enlighten us. It sure would make for an interesting discussion!

 

Bill

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19 hours ago, Bill Morrison said:

I believe that you did an exceptional job with this kit!  Very well done!

 

My comments are not meant as criticism at all, but, I am still trying to figure out precisely what the kit is supposed to depict in  the eyes of the kit designers.  It has too few guns to be a Post Ship/Sloop-of-War, too many masts to be either a cutter (of which there were two named HMS President) or a Brig, and "HMS" applies to ships commissioned  into the Royal Navy. That rules out a merchantman.  I'm not sure about the type of ship stated on the box as being a "Light Frigate".  To the best of my mind, no such nomenclature ever existed.

 

Perhaps someone could enlighten us. It sure would make for an interesting discussion!

 

Bill

Hello Bill. I'm just like you looking for the original of my model, and I actually found it among Chapman's plans. 
Unfortunately, I found it too late to get closer to it, I was a long way into building. The kit is really very much 
simplified, the original has a total of 18 cannons .. According to the hull's shape, I guess it really was 
a merchant ship.

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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That is what I was thinking.  I know that the RN also had a couple of sloops-of-war named President in the late 1600's, and a few cutters the next century.  The Sloops had 18 guns.  Perhaps cutting two more gun ports on each side and fitting guns there would give a reasonable sloop of war.  I might try that approach.

 

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I agree to assign cannon ports according to the Chapman plan..:imNotWorthy:

 

The last rope of the driver is in place, so there is no longer just the lantern, the boat name and the glass cabinet..

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Beautiful build, congratulations

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Superb work  you made her look amazing.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Made this one into a masterpiece. Great job.

Regards, Scott

 

Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli

 

Completed builds:

1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli  -  1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli  -  1:54 Adventure, Amati  -  1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL

1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli  -  1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel  -  1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal

 

Awaiting construction:

1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL  -  1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard

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Thank you all and I greatly appreciate your positive reactions, which really encourage me to continue my work. :imNotWorthy: Ondra

 

Before finishing, the last important thing is the glass case ...

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..and a label with the name of the ship, inspired by the original ship ...

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thank you Waitoa!! :rolleyes:
Lantern finished ..

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Placed label on stand ..
Latest photos before placing in a glass cabinet ..

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Really nice work  well done  she is a beauty.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Thank you for your support.:imNotWorthy::imNotWorthy:
So after five years and three months it's done. Created a wooden board under a glass case ..

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..Model placed on an honorable place in the dining room ..

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figurines of sailors built as a "scale" next to the ship ..

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Already starting a new construction...:dancetl6:

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Thank you!:)  Presentation of the building with music here: 

 

 

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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With the completed model, I participated in the Czech Championship 2018 in the C8 category and here is the result.. :stunned: O.

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Blimey, what do you need to do to get a gold! An amazing build well done, and I never comment unless seriously impressed.

 

Perhaps could describe as a merchant ship brought into the Royal Navy for convoy escort protection? The problem with a lot of these kits is they seemed to go out of their way to take real plans and make the description as inaccurate as possible so that you cannot trace the original. Or as in the Unicorn and Royal Caroline, have a full set of plans and then not bother to use them for the model, very strange!

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A beautiful model :imNotWorthy:

Congratulations with your silver medal. :champagne-popping-smiley-emotic

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

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ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

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On 9/26/2018 at 11:22 AM, Thunder said:

Blimey, what do you need to do to get a gold! An amazing build well done, and I never comment unless seriously impressed.

 

Perhaps could describe as a merchant ship brought into the Royal Navy for convoy escort protection? The problem with a lot of these kits is they seemed to go out of their way to take real plans and make the description as inaccurate as possible so that you cannot trace the original. Or as in the Unicorn and Royal Caroline, have a full set of plans and then not bother to use them for the model, very strange!

 

I think the problem was with starting by following the kit accurately, e.g. wide deck boards and gaps between them. After that, I started studying more. But I'm still happy as it is. I also found out that little would be enough to make the kit more accurate, but the manufacturer probably doesn't want that or it would be too expensive. 
 
Thank you very much for your feedback! Ondras71 :piratebo5:

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

Member of the organizing clubhttps://wchs-c-2023.klom-admiral.cz/en

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