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After a long time I returned to the construction of a wooden sailboat model. As the first kit I chose a kit I found on the Internet, it´s the "President frigate" made by Sergal.
After studying the package, I found out that the model is not quite true to type, or scale. The scale described as 1:60 in my opinion disagrees. I calculated the model to be 1:90 scale, which is more accurate.
This is more of a model than an exact replica, but I decided to modify it. I´m building the deck equipment and rigging according to the monograph of the ship Royal Caroline, it is the same size and the era corresponds aswell.
I began the construction in August 2012. I aim for a most authentical processing of details for which I draw inspiration from available books and documents.
Wooden parts of the kit are good, but the details and ornaments aren´t. Since the beginning of the construction I´ve been taking photos, I´m posting a few to share the experience..

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Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
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Vážení Ondráš,

 

Děkuji Vám za zaslání Vaši zprávu zde. Naše pravidla v místě aplikace vyžadují vysílání v angličtině. Použil jsem Google přeložit vaši zprávu do angličtiny, a výsledky byly velmi čitelné.

 

S přátelským pozdravem,

 

Dear Ondras,

 

Thank you for posting your report here. Our site rules require posting in English. I used Google to translate your report into English, and the results were very legible.

 

Kind regards,

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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I am sorry. I saved the text in English, but I also had patches compiler, error ...
Here is the original, can be adjusted..? thanks Ondras

 

 

After a long time I returned to the construction of a wooden sailboat model. As the first kit I chose a kit I found on the Internet, it´s the "President frigate" made by Sergal.
After studying the package, I found out that the model is not quite true to type, or scale. The scale described as 1:60 in my opinion disagrees. I calculated the model to be 1:90 scale, which is more accurate.
This is more of a model than an exact replica, but I decided to modify it. I´m building the deck equipment and rigging according to the monograph of the ship Royal Caroline, it is the same size and the era corresponds aswell.
I began the construction in August 2012. I aim for a most authentical processing of details for which I draw inspiration from available books and documents.
Wooden parts of the kit are good, but the details and ornaments aren´t. Since the beginning of the construction I´ve been taking photos, I´m posting a few to share the experience..

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Lining of the deck made of maple laths 0,5 x 3 mm, joints made of black thread.

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Wales according to the instructions, wooden laths 2x3 and 2x2 mm added to the plating. I have created these using strips of 1.5 x 3 mm recessed in the second plating of walnut strips 0.5 x 3 mm. Pinning indicated using a needle.

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Ram repaired using putty and blue painting.

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Finished railings and decks before placing pins.

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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foredeck

 

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rear deck wall

 

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After completion of the hull I wondered how to create the stern, I refused the crooked metal castings the kit included.

 

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I wanted the ship to have a wide mirror, as for example HMS FLY does.

 

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I created a new mirror

 

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including the side galleries

 

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Here I made the deck equipment

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Bow according to the plan is entirely inaccurrate, made of metal laths

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used the figurehead from the kit, but the rest of the bow is new

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forecastle gratings

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toilets

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A new bow

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I wish you all merry Christmas and a lot of "model success"

Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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I darkened the very bright deck using graphite and I've marked the pinnning with a needle and graphite

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I kept looking for a pattern of this ship and I found it. Among Chapman's plans under number 52, it is the
English West India Trader. So the draft is almost exact. A pity that I did not find it sooner.

 

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The view of the stern decoration proves this.
 

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I measured the model using 1:87 figures and the kit is actually in a 1:90 scale, I do not understand why the
manufacturer doesn't present it as such.
 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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I've redone the too thick rudder fittings and finished another hinge, they were too few.

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I created a new rudder of wood. The one in the kit was too thick.

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I started creating stern decorations made of baked clay, I tried to copy the metal cast decorations.

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Stern decorated

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Model placed on a stand. I placed a temporary board under it to prevent hull damage during handling. And I've attached the rudder.

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Rudder done.

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Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Rudder equipped with chains

 

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I modified the first two figures 1:87 (HO trains) in commander's uniforms of the era

 

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created stairs and railings

 

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capstan made of walnut wood

 

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I've created new channels, the ones from the kit could not be used

 

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Preparation of the lower deadeyes

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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You're builidng a superb President!

Amazing

Thank you very much!
 
The deckeck equipment in the ships plan is also fabricated, I haven't seen it on any other ship. I began to arrange the deck according to the monograph of Royal Caroline. I made new sheet bitts and a new ships bell ..
 
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The flag in the kit was not in scale and it was from the bad time period after 1805.
 
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An acquaintance of mine has created a new set of flags for the year 1760, so far the back flag is made and placed on the flag pole.
 
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Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
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  • 2 weeks later...
Chain-plates placed on the hull
 
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Blocks placed under the sheet bitts
 
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The blocks, eyelets, clamp deadeyes and the belaying included in the kit were poorly made, I've purchased 
new ones from a Czech manufacturer "Radekshipmodels.cz"
 
According to the monograph of Endeavour I've made the last solid deck equipment - the pumps
 
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http://www.radekshipmodels.cz/en/

 

 

Ondras.

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Thank you for your continuing log.  I've finally got to get back to mine a bit.  I'm a big fan of some of the mods you've made.  I hope you don't mind if I take some inspiration from them in my own.

Current build:

Constructo Enterprise 1799

Completed build:

Artesania Latina Swift 1805

Started but on hold:

Sergal President 1760

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Thank you for your continuing log.  I've finally got to get back to mine a bit.  I'm a big fan of some of the mods you've made.  I hope you don't mind if I take some inspiration from them in my own.

This is an inexpensive kit, but I believe that a nice model can be made of it. I like to draw inspiration from other forums as well.

 

 

Next in line were the cannons.

 

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Again, I rjected those in the kit and created new ones, cannon barrels Amati, carriages

made of walnut wood.

 

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The ironwork is partially brass and paper.

 

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I made the gun restraining ropes ..

 

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Cannons placed firmly on to the deck ..

 

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Next in line were tackles. These are made of blocks of 1x2 and 2x2 mm. (Radekshipmodels..)

Blocks half the size would be better, but those aren't sold ..

 

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Finished guns with hoists ..

 

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I decided to provide the model with sails, so I ordered the ones Sergal offers as a complement to the model ..

 

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The quality of the sails, however, is comparable to the quality of the model, it is poor ....

 

I measured the sails according to the plan, modified them a little for greater historical authenticity. I had them dome by Radelshipmodels ....

 

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The quality is much better ...

 

I also decided to replace lime logs from the kit with Ramin, it has a better color of the wood.

 

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bowsprit made of Ramin ...

 

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Main masts made of Ramin...

 

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reinforcements ..

 

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A small test of the sails ...

 

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Placed cleats ..

 

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I decided to equip the ship with a compass cabinet, as a ship on long voyages it surely must've had one. Created according to the monograph of Bounty.

 

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Further I've created the steering wheel rack..

 

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According to the Sergal sails I created new sails and adjusted the height of the masts accordingly, the masts in the kit were too tall. Further work on the masts is already in accordance with the monograph of Royal Caroline ..

 

Further created the topmasts and the foundations of the tops ..

 

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Thank you very much. I was sorry to build a schedule that would fit better on a child's toy .. Ondras71

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Further work on the masts, fittings made of paper, painted with black paint ..

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created Bow sprit..

 

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I finished installing Burton pendants and shrouds.


Some rope wrapped according to the instructions ..

 

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Prepared blocks and auxiliary cables for the bowsprit.

 

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The main, fore and mizzen stay.

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Created lower ratlines..

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Created tops, including the blocks under tops

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Finished breastrail ..  

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and nails ...

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Created boomkin..

 

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The belaying pins and cleats installed on the front shrouds...

 

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Futtock shrouds..

 

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Also placed crowsfeet..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Wow. This is the most detailed build of this kit I've ever seen. I wish I did the same as you, But I just built mine straight out of the box.

Well done it looks amazing. Good work.

Regards, Scott

 

Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli

 

Completed builds:

1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli  -  1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli  -  1:54 Adventure, Amati  -  1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL

1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli  -  1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel  -  1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal

 

Awaiting construction:

1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL  -  1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard

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beautiful built model Ondras71, nice and clean and excellent masting,

I also love those modified figurines in period uniforms, well done

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Thank you very much, I try to make the most of the kit..:default_wallbash::)

 

Created topmasts and topgallant masts..

 

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Masts are complete..

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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Installed blocks to the top area of the top mast.

 

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I continue with top masts, shrouds and ratlines. 

 

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I installed top mast stays and backstays.

 

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Ondras.

Done : President - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=90230
Under construction : Roter Lowe - https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=114576

 

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