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No. the grain is too big (pronounced) to properly scale out and look right.

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Yes, I have. For deck planking. 

And I agree that the grain is very pronounced, but I disagree that you can have "scaled" wood grain. True to scale wood grain I don't think you can possibly discern.

As far as appearance, it depends on what you fancy. 

Although, I admit I'd probably not use it again, once all the deck furniture and guns and rigging are added, it still provides some character and texture to the deck, which otherwise might be flat and dead looking. 

Not sure I'd plank a hull with it. 

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Jim,

given where you are,  I wonder if you can access a local

country sawmill and find a supply of two species from

your region that have a more suitable grain, are both closed pore,

low contrast, tight grained and between the two have a color

contrast:

Madrone

Yellow Cedar

 

Though seriously expensive for we easterners, it could be

$5 /BF or less for you.

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My theory:

country sawmills sell for less - given retail markup - maybe half.

The rough - pre planed lumber is thicker and if you band saw

resaw, the yield can be greater.

The downside is that if it is an active concern, the stock is green.

If it is a relaxed operation, there may be old air dried stock in ricks.

 

Edensaw does have Madrone and Yellow Cedar  but > $10/BF

It does look like you can get Hard Maple for about what I can

and it is a reasonable substitute for Boxwood - for everything but

carving. - i.e. timbers, planking, beams, knees

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Current:  

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner -  framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner -  timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835  ship - timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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Madrone seems to be pricey because of the yield... finding long straight pieces of sufficient diameter.  Also, it needs a long, slow period to cure out or else it splits and warps.   I've read where that some harvestor actually bury the madrone for a year to slow the curing process.   On the other hand, I have about 3/4's of a cord of the stuff for firewood that's not much useful for anything else. ;)

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I have made pens from Madrone and the real ships were made of oak. It is just something different and I know it will look great. I have a lot of Maple somI may use that for decking and the Oak for planking above the Wale.

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Jim Rogers

 

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