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Bluenose by Worldway - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64

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This is my second build.

 

I received the Bluenose kit just before Christmas.  The Admiral "suggested" I put it under the Christmas tree.  So on Boxing Day I did an inventory.  All parts were present and accounted for.  However, one problem I had was that one of the dowels was badly warped.  I emailed Model Shpways and had two replacement dowels in about 2 weeks.  Excellent customer service.  All the wood was sorted, organized and stored in cardboard tubes.  I laid the plans out flat to try to get the folds out of them.

 

I plan on following Bob Hunt's practicum from Lauck Street Shipyards for the most part but will also be using the MS instructions manual plus other build logs on this forum.

 

I also purchased the book Bluenose by Brian and Phil Backman. Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1965.  According to MS it was a major reference for the kit.

 

Right now I am cleaning up my workspace and getting everything prepared to start this build.

 

I will be pre-occupied over the next few days but hope to get started later this weekend.

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Keep us updated. I will be watching as the bluenose is one of my favorite. Pat 

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I went down to my shop tonight to grab something really quick, and well, one thing led to another.......

 

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So, from reading other logs I knew that the aft section of the false keel was delicate.  I still managed to break it.  Luckily it didn't snap off, it was just a fracture, so I applied a bit of CA and was back in the game again.

 

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After that, I figured it was safer to sand the laser char with the keel on edge.

 

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While sanding the middle keel, I guess I got too aggressive and, once again, I fractured the part

 

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More CA and everything was fine.  I think I was lucky that nothing completely broke off.

 

I wan't happy with the fit between the aft and middle bulkheads so did additional sanding (carefully) to get them better in line.

 

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I then used a generous amount of carpenters glue to attach the three sections and added some weights.  I'll let them cook over night.

 

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Haven't made a lot of progress.  I added some bracing over the joints of the keel, market the bearding and rabbet lines and started cutting the joint.  It's going fairly well.  I got one side done but will give my hand a rest before I start the next side.

 

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Derek,

Looks like you had itchy fingers...... :P 

but you are off now and I will be following along.

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I've installed the bulkheads and the sternpost.  Some of the bulkheads were very snug and I had to do some sanding to get them to fit properly.  They went together quite nicely.

 

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I started fairing the hull and noticed some large gaps between the a couple of the planks and the bulkhead.  I added some filler pieces but got thinking after that maybe I shouldn't have done it until after I finished the fairing.

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When I had the same problem the advice I got was to attache shims then continue with the fairing.  Made sense to me as the fairing will bring each bulkhead into line at the same time

Doug

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I then started doing some sanding.  Of course I tried to be gentle but disaster struck

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So I glued the piece back with CA glue then reinforced it with carpenters glue.  I'm wondering if maybe I should have used some 5 minute epoxy.  This is the second time I've had problems in this area

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I'm wondering what is the best way to fair the hull without breaking any more parts off.  I try to be gentle but then I find eventually I get too aggressive. 

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Hi Derek sorry to read about your accident there I would suggest drilling and pinning that piece back on as well as wood glue to help strenghen

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Is there any way to add support at the joint between bulkhead and false keel - I'm thinking small wooden blocks glued in (like where the lego blocks were to square up)

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Derek, if you have any 1/4 x 1/4 inch square stock you could glue it into the 4 corners of that bulkhead and false keel to strengthen that repair.

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11 minutes ago, Heronguy said:

When I had the same problem the advice I got was to attache shims then continue with the fairing.  Made sense to me as the fairing will bring each bulkhead into line at the same time

Doug

When I added the strips I noticed that there were "new" gaps.  I'm sure they will go away once I get the fairing finished but it seems now I just have more material to remove.  Also, perhaps someone can answer, the drawings show the fairing line on each bulkhead.  I didn't use that because it wasn't used in Bob Hunt's practicum.  Should I have scribed the lines and cut the bulkhead to the lines to start the fairing process?  I mean, it's too late now to do that but curious for next time.

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12 minutes ago, Steve 12345 said:

Hi Derek sorry to read about your accident there I would suggest drilling and pinning that piece back on as well as wood glue to help strenghen

Great suggestion, where were you twenty minutes ago?????

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the instructions for the Syren say: 

Bevel all of your bulkheads before you place them into their slots of the bulkhead former. The drawing below

shows you how to bevel the outboard edge first. The dashed line is there only as a guide. DO NOT initially bevel your bulkhead edge to these reference lines. Shape the edge just short of each bevel line (leave about 1/64”). 

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7 minutes ago, Jack12477 said:

Derek, if you have any 1/4 x 1/4 inch square stock you could glue it into the 4 corners of that bulkhead and false keel to strengthen that repair.

I had the same thought.  I knew that I had to install a couple of horn timbers in that area and thought that the blocks would interfere with them.   I just had a good look at the drawings and realized that the filler blocks wouldn't have got in the way.  I think I may do that now just to help with reinforcement and prevent future issues.

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Thanks Doug, very helpful, makes a lot of sense.

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Derek,

I think almost everyone breaks the keel here so don't get down on yourself. I put blocks in as you are doing and had no further problems. While fairing the hull keep a light hand and some patience. Some bulkheads needed fillers but there were not many and not too thick.

Dave B

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Hi Derek,

Good advice all around, was going to put in my 5 Cents worth but everyone has already said wot I was going to say, Faring/Filler/Fix.;)

Cheers....HOF.

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Hi Derek,

You can copy and paste your build log into Bob's  forum if you use Mozilla Firefox as your browser when you open MSW/NRG. Write once, post twice.

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I've been busy fairing the hull and adding a couple more shims.  I also installed the stern filler blocks and the horn timbers.  I am going to continue fairing the hull until I am satisfied with it, feeling that this is an important step that should be done carefully.

 

 

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On ‎2017‎-‎02‎-‎15 at 8:06 PM, Worldway said:

I went down to my shop tonight to grab something really quick, and well, one thing led to another.......

 

post-26154-0-49780200-1487206673_thumb.jpg

 

So, from reading other logs I knew that the aft section of the false keel was delicate.  I still managed to break it.  Luckily it didn't snap off, it was just a fracture, so I applied a bit of CA and was back in the game again.

 

post-26154-0-09557600-1487206681_thumb.jpg

 

After that, I figured it was safer to sand the laser char with the keel on edge.

 

post-26154-0-28166500-1487206684_thumb.jpg

 

While sanding the middle keel, I guess I got too aggressive and, once again, I fractured the part

 

post-26154-0-35224200-1487206687_thumb.jpg

 

More CA and everything was fine.  I think I was lucky that nothing completely broke off.

 

I wan't happy with the fit between the aft and middle bulkheads so did additional sanding (carefully) to get them better in line.

 

post-26154-0-66127000-1487206689_thumb.jpg

 

I then used a generous amount of carpenters glue to attach the three sections and added some weights.  I'll let them cook over night.

 

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Hi Derek, I notice you do not lay wax paper over the top of your joints asyou do below. I found this useful when I wanted to apply weight directly over the joint.

Bet of luck with this build, also on my short list.

 

A beautiful day here in Windsor.

 

Len

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Ugh, still sanding but I'm getting close.  I think I'm almost done.  I've shaped the stern filler blocks.  Done a little more fairing of the hull.  Did I mention I hate sanding.  I realize that in the pics the stern filler blocks looks a little uneven.  I took some measurements after I took the pics to confirm they were.  I've since SANDED more to make sure they were equal on both sides.

 

 

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Looking good derek it looks like you have taken all the laser cut marking off on each bulkhead so you are definitely close 

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I've installed the waterways and fitted the waterways between the stanchions.  It was a big of a time consuming task to measure and fit each one but went fairly well.  In all it took about 2-1/2 hours.  One slight problem I have is that because I had to shim a couple of the bulkheads I now have a gap between the waterways and the planking.  In a couple of spots the gap is significant. I guess I'll have to spend a little more time fairing the hull to see if I can reduce the size of the gap. I can always add a little filler between the waterways and the planking if I have to.

 

 

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Derek - From your pics I see you are using my fav Clamps. They are the best for planking and so Cheap. :) I cannot add much to other comments here. I have completed this kit and as everyone has said you have found what I consider the 2 biggest problems. The warped Mast and the broken false Keel. And I also do not know anyone who has not had to do the reinforcing you have done. I should also mention that this was my first kit. and I too followed Bob Hunt's practicum. In my opinion the Practicum is great. You just need to know when to stop using it. The further you go the less detail there is. There is very little detail on rigging. But you are a few months away from that.

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