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Great start Bob, I will be following along, By making the waterline level it would also help with painting the hull before removing from the build board I would emagine.

 

Michael

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Bob,

Are you going try to simulate the sheets of steel on her?

Or do you think the scale is to small for such adventure?

 

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19 hours ago, michael mott said:

Great start Bob, I will be following along, By making the waterline level it would also help with painting the hull before removing from the build board I would emagine.

 

Michael

 

That's what I like about this forum.  I always remove the hull and then have trouble holding it to draw the water line.  Thanks Michael.

 

19 hours ago, Nirvana said:

Bob,

Are you going try to simulate the sheets of steel on her?

Or do you think the scale is to small for such adventure?

 

Although Nils' boats are bigger the scale is smaller, so I know it can be done.  I have the material, so I might try.

 

Bob 

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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glad to see you've started on your next masterpiece........looks like a very interesting project.

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Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
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There are a lot of you how said you are familiar with the Mariefred and offered to help if I had a problem. This has to do with the drawing not the boat, but I need help. There is a mark that looks like a strange "Z" on one of the drawings.   I think it is for millimeters but I'm not sure.  I have circled several of these symbols on the drawing below.

 

Bob

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                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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CaptainBob,

 

Where you read "spantdistans", means distance between bulkheads - so right there is a measurement.

That "Z" is an old version of todays mm

 

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Bob

Here it is.

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12 hours ago, Nirvana said:

CaptainBob,

 

That "Z" is an old version of todays mm

That's what I thought but it helps to be sure.  Thanks.

 

Bob

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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13 hours ago, captainbob said:

There are a lot of you how said you are familiar with the Mariefred and offered to help if I had a problem. This has to do with the drawing not the boat, but I need help. There is a mark that looks like a strange "Z" on one of the drawings.   I think it is for millimeters but I'm not sure.  I have circled several of these symbols on the drawing below.

 

Bob

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Wow !

interesting details on the drawing Bob,  ;)

I think it realy pays off to get copies of the the original drwg from the source you mentioned....

 

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"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

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Hello Bob,

 

What is nice about this era is that the little ships are so elegant. They actually look like ships unlike the vessels of today. I think she will make a lovely model. 

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J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

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Yes Nils, It has a lot of good detail, even shows the metal plating on the hull.  I do have to be careful with the dimensions, most are in MM but some are in inches. 

 

Thanks, Keith.  There are a lot of lovely boats out there, you just have to find them, and the hope there are plans.

 

Bob

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 0:07 PM, captainbob said:

Russ, I believe the main parts of the boat are wood.  But in some pictures such as one picture of the bow the spray guard on top of the rail is dented so it is metal. 

Welcome aboard, Michael and Nils.  I hope this turns out to be another ‘fun build”.

This is a picture dated 1903.  I will try to build to this time.

Bob

 

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I like the early years...you can forgo the radar and life raft casings...and stick with period life rings and boats.   Love it.

 

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I agree the early boat is what I will be going with.

 

Bob

 

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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Bob,

I take it you have done a lot of research before approaching this adventure.

Found another picture of Mariefred dated 1903.

Don't know if you have it or not.

But others following your log, it could be interesting.

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22 hours ago, Nirvana said:

Bob,

I take it you have done a lot of research before approaching this adventure.

Found another picture of Mariefred dated 1903.

Don't know if you have it or not.

But others following your log, it could be interesting.

mariefred_3.jpg

 

Thanks Per.  I Think I have found about 25 or 30 pictures of the Mariefred and about the same number of close up detail shots or interiors.  But the one you picked is the way I want to build her.  Most of the pictures are more recent.  You can tell because the boats on top have been replaced with canister inflatables. 

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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She is still in service, working daily during the summer. Definitely has its charm!

I was surprised how quick it is for being an old coal-powered ship. Easily keeping up with modern vessels.

 

I do not remember 100% if the one on the photo is Mariefred or not, because Mariefred typically sails over lake Mälaren to Gripsholm, but this photo is from Stockholm archipelago of the Baltic sea. However, when being on board of Mariefred, it is much faster than expected.

 

Of course, let me know if you will need to get some photos of it - during the summer it should be easily possible.

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Mike, the pictures you uploaded is of S/S Blidösund, which also is a Steamer.

 

Edit: She belongs to Waxholms Bolaget, the smoke stack gave it away.  And you are 100 % right,  about Inland traffic with Mariefred and archipelago traffic.

 

I think it's time to give CaptainBob his build log back. Sorry Bob

 

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Thanks, mike for the offer of help.

I agree Kees.  I love the looks of the turn of the century boats.

Dr. Per, I really don't mind others entering information of my log, as long as it is pertinent to the build.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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Lawrence,  thanks for stopping by.  I wish I were farther along but due to chronic family health problems, I only get to work on the boats, 1 - 2 hours a day, if that.  The rest of the time I'm the care giver, cook, House cleaner and . . .  Enough of that.  The Mariefred is a riveted steel boat.  And I like Nils I hope to plate her, something I've never tried before.  The other problem is figuring out what to use for some of the parts.  The upper deck supports and seating frames are 35 X 35 mm angle iron or 1.38" at scale that is .0138.  I have seen other models where they have used larger material for these parts and they end up looking bulky and out of scale.  Ah well that's the kind of problem all model builders go through.  I know, I'll set up a foundry and extrude my own material.  (Pardon the humor).

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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sorry to hear that there are ills in the house.   I hope they get better soon :)    I would imagine you'd want to use plastic.......Plastruct and evergreen has a fine selection of I beams and such.  they also carry a good selection of different moldings as well.

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finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Lawrence, Popeye, Thanks for the well wishes. 

 

Bob

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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Hooray,  I finally did it.  Try, try again they say, so I did.  I ended up throwing the first three tries away, but I kept the fourth.  The part is the little deck house on the lower rear deck.  You can just see a part of it in one picture, but luckily the plans are of the boat as built in 1903.  Some time ago the deck house was removed and the rear area of the lower deck was enclosed all the other pictures of the Mariefred show her this way.  I just went back and looked at the pictures I posted earlier and they are all of the more recent boat.  So here is a picture of the Mariefred  as I will be building her.

 

Bob

 

 

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Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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Sorry to hear about the illness, hope it passes quickly, and you can spend some more time at your bench.

 

The image with the open rear deck certainly appeals to me more than the enclosed one. I'm looking forward to your progress. With regards to your (I) beams e.a. you do not need a foundry, get some brass sheet and strips and make your own ... smelting makes such a mess ...

Carl

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sneaky.........you built the hull without showing us  >must review entire log to see<   grand looking structure you have there.........nicely detailed overlay form  ;)    very well done!

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finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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I saw the bulkheads in a row.......then you have made great progress   ;)    recovery must be going well at your house......glad to hear it!

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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53 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

sneaky.........you built the hull without showing us  

Hang about!!!!!  I was just thinking the same thing!  Bob, ya gotta stop doing this to us😊.  I know, I know....sometimes it's hard to stop to take photos when it's full steam ahead with the building!

 

Nevertheless, top job, Bob.  Really, really nice.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

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7 hours ago, cog said:

 ... smelting makes such a mess ...

 

Besides that, "She who must be obeyed," would make me go into the desert to do it.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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