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SS Mariefred by captainbob - 1:96

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Bob,

Are you going try to simulate the sheets of steel on her?

Or do you think the scale is to small for such adventure?

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19 hours ago, michael mott said:

Great start Bob, I will be following along, By making the waterline level it would also help with painting the hull before removing from the build board I would emagine.

 

Michael

 

That's what I like about this forum.  I always remove the hull and then have trouble holding it to draw the water line.  Thanks Michael.

 

19 hours ago, Nirvana said:

Bob,

Are you going try to simulate the sheets of steel on her?

Or do you think the scale is to small for such adventure?

 

Although Nils' boats are bigger the scale is smaller, so I know it can be done.  I have the material, so I might try.

 

Bob 

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There are a lot of you how said you are familiar with the Mariefred and offered to help if I had a problem. This has to do with the drawing not the boat, but I need help. There is a mark that looks like a strange "Z" on one of the drawings.   I think it is for millimeters but I'm not sure.  I have circled several of these symbols on the drawing below.

 

Bob

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CaptainBob,

 

Where you read "spantdistans", means distance between bulkheads - so right there is a measurement.

That "Z" is an old version of todays mm

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Hi Bob

 

It looks suspiciously like a percentage mark, as in %, but that wouldn't make sense, would it?

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

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13 hours ago, captainbob said:

There are a lot of you how said you are familiar with the Mariefred and offered to help if I had a problem. This has to do with the drawing not the boat, but I need help. There is a mark that looks like a strange "Z" on one of the drawings.   I think it is for millimeters but I'm not sure.  I have circled several of these symbols on the drawing below.

 

Bob

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Wow !

interesting details on the drawing Bob,  ;)

I think it realy pays off to get copies of the the original drwg from the source you mentioned....

 

Nils

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Hello Bob,

 

What is nice about this era is that the little ships are so elegant. They actually look like ships unlike the vessels of today. I think she will make a lovely model. 

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Yes Nils, It has a lot of good detail, even shows the metal plating on the hull.  I do have to be careful with the dimensions, most are in MM but some are in inches. 

 

Thanks, Keith.  There are a lot of lovely boats out there, you just have to find them, and the hope there are plans.

 

Bob

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On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 0:07 PM, captainbob said:

Russ, I believe the main parts of the boat are wood.  But in some pictures such as one picture of the bow the spray guard on top of the rail is dented so it is metal. 

Welcome aboard, Michael and Nils.  I hope this turns out to be another ‘fun build”.

This is a picture dated 1903.  I will try to build to this time.

Bob

 

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I like the early years...you can forgo the radar and life raft casings...and stick with period life rings and boats.   Love it.

 

Rob

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Bob,

I take it you have done a lot of research before approaching this adventure.

Found another picture of Mariefred dated 1903.

Don't know if you have it or not.

But others following your log, it could be interesting.

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22 hours ago, Nirvana said:

Bob,

I take it you have done a lot of research before approaching this adventure.

Found another picture of Mariefred dated 1903.

Don't know if you have it or not.

But others following your log, it could be interesting.

mariefred_3.jpg

 

Thanks Per.  I Think I have found about 25 or 30 pictures of the Mariefred and about the same number of close up detail shots or interiors.  But the one you picked is the way I want to build her.  Most of the pictures are more recent.  You can tell because the boats on top have been replaced with canister inflatables. 

 

Bob

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She is still in service, working daily during the summer. Definitely has its charm!

I was surprised how quick it is for being an old coal-powered ship. Easily keeping up with modern vessels.

 

I do not remember 100% if the one on the photo is Mariefred or not, because Mariefred typically sails over lake Mälaren to Gripsholm, but this photo is from Stockholm archipelago of the Baltic sea. However, when being on board of Mariefred, it is much faster than expected.

 

Of course, let me know if you will need to get some photos of it - during the summer it should be easily possible.

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Mike, the pictures you uploaded is of S/S Blidösund, which also is a Steamer.

 

Edit: She belongs to Waxholms Bolaget, the smoke stack gave it away.  And you are 100 % right,  about Inland traffic with Mariefred and archipelago traffic.

 

I think it's time to give CaptainBob his build log back. Sorry Bob

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Thanks, mike for the offer of help.

I agree Kees.  I love the looks of the turn of the century boats.

Dr. Per, I really don't mind others entering information of my log, as long as it is pertinent to the build.

 

Bob

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Hi Cap'n Bob

 

Gosh but you sure are collecting a lot of great pictures on the   SS Mariefred  that will be a great help in your building her. Just checking in to see if you had a new update  on your build posted but it looks like I am just a bit to early. She looks like she will be a joy to build and I am sure that will have a few extra surprises in store for us,                                     ENJOY.

 

Regards   Lawrence

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Lawrence,  thanks for stopping by.  I wish I were farther along but due to chronic family health problems, I only get to work on the boats, 1 - 2 hours a day, if that.  The rest of the time I'm the care giver, cook, House cleaner and . . .  Enough of that.  The Mariefred is a riveted steel boat.  And I like Nils I hope to plate her, something I've never tried before.  The other problem is figuring out what to use for some of the parts.  The upper deck supports and seating frames are 35 X 35 mm angle iron or 1.38" at scale that is .0138.  I have seen other models where they have used larger material for these parts and they end up looking bulky and out of scale.  Ah well that's the kind of problem all model builders go through.  I know, I'll set up a foundry and extrude my own material.  (Pardon the humor).

 

Bob

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1 hour ago, captainbob said:

Lawrence,  thanks for stopping by.  I wish I were farther along but due to chronic family health problems, I only get to work on the boats, 1 - 2 hours a day, if that.  The rest of the time I'm the care giver, cook, House cleaner and . . .  Enough of that.  The Mariefred is a riveted steel boat.  And I like Nils I hope to plate her, something I've never tried before.  The other problem is figuring out what to use for some of the parts.  The upper deck supports and seating frames are 35 X 35 mm angle iron or 1.38" at scale that is .0138.  I have seen other models where they have used larger material for these parts and they end up looking bulky and out of scale.  Ah well that's the kind of problem all model builders go through.  I know, I'll set up a foundry and extrude my own material.  (Pardon the humor).

 

Bob

Hello Cap'n Bob

 

Very sorry to here of your health problems and sure hope they  improve soon. Yes it will be very interesting to see what you come up with your hull plating and those very tiny little angle irons, It sure dose sound like a great challenge to me but then again I am sure that you will work it all out,                                                                 ENJOY.

 

Regards   Lawrence

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sorry to hear that there are ills in the house.   I hope they get better soon :)    I would imagine you'd want to use plastic.......Plastruct and evergreen has a fine selection of I beams and such.  they also carry a good selection of different moldings as well.

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Hooray,  I finally did it.  Try, try again they say, so I did.  I ended up throwing the first three tries away, but I kept the fourth.  The part is the little deck house on the lower rear deck.  You can just see a part of it in one picture, but luckily the plans are of the boat as built in 1903.  Some time ago the deck house was removed and the rear area of the lower deck was enclosed all the other pictures of the Mariefred show her this way.  I just went back and looked at the pictures I posted earlier and they are all of the more recent boat.  So here is a picture of the Mariefred  as I will be building her.

 

Bob

 

 

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Sorry to hear about the illness, hope it passes quickly, and you can spend some more time at your bench.

 

The image with the open rear deck certainly appeals to me more than the enclosed one. I'm looking forward to your progress. With regards to your (I) beams e.a. you do not need a foundry, get some brass sheet and strips and make your own ... smelting makes such a mess ...

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Hello Cap'n Bob

 

It's nice to see you back at work in your Old Ship Yard and that you have recovered from all of your previous troubles, we all mister you very much here on the MSW Form . I am pleased that you have decided to build the earlier version of the SS Mariefred as she seams to have mush more cartier  and charm over the newer more modern version.  Very nice work on the after house it sure is is looking good and I can hardly wait to see it installed.

 

My work on the HMS Bounty is coming to a close very fast, it dose surprise me just how fast it is going. I did change the flags around after B.E.comments on my flag arrangement, from all of my research B.E. was very correct , he sure knows a great pile of information on all of these older ships.  Still have not decided on my next build as yet, as I have to catch up on my around home work as I have fallen a bit behind this spring, blaming it on My Old Ship Yard,                                                                           ENJOY.

 

Regards   Lawrence

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