KAT Posted March 26, 2017 Share #1 Posted March 26, 2017 Hey guys, i literally just came back from a 3 year break and im kinda lost about where to start when talking about wood, the models I'm planning on making are for RC and i dont know what type of wood would be best for the kneel and ribs, also the planking? where do you guys get your supplies? i was thinking of balsa wood for the planking? let me know your thoughts guys it would be really helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted March 26, 2017 Share #2 Posted March 26, 2017 Kat The attached is a good quick guide to wood choice. http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-materials-and-tools.php Or alternatively try. http://modelshipbuilder.com/page.php?49 KAT and mtaylor 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted March 27, 2017 Share #3 Posted March 27, 2017 What is your country/state of residence? What full size tools do you have? If you are not building something that flies, Balsa is a very poor choice. In a built up ship/boat model, the weight of the wood is of little or no consequence. To get it to float and not roll over, ballast will be required. Although any species of Oak is an inappropriate choice, a TV show re: Mary Deare (?) showed that a characteristic of Red Oak makes it a specially poor choice: it is very porous. Air can be blown thru it. KAT and mtaylor 2 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAT Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted March 27, 2017 Thanks guys, im from Mexico, this hobbie is almost no existent in my country so its a bit hard for me lol, but i dont give up easily, im really gald i got to read balsa wood is a poor choice along with Oak, and speaking of full size tools i assume you are talking about saws, so i only have an electric jigsaw and a coping saw. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted March 27, 2017 Share #5 Posted March 27, 2017 Since you are in a more tropical region, your choice of local hardwood will probably be different from what we in the temperate zone have available. If you have a local hardwood merchant with milling services you may be able to obtain timber stock at a lower cost than mail order import. Acer sp. (Maple), Pyrus sp. (Pear), Citrus sp. (most trees are too small to interest commercial interests, but you may get lucky. Malus sp. (Apple) is ideal but you may be too far South. Ideally, you want : hard, tight grain, closed pore, straight grain with little or no contrast. The more boring, better it scales down. A dealer should be able to help. Check with local woodworkers for resaw and thickness planning help. mtaylor, Canute and KAT 3 Quote NRG member 45 years Current: HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 ship - timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 27, 2017 Share #6 Posted March 27, 2017 I use poplar wood for RC boats. It is not too hard and easy to use. But whatever wood you use, as it gets wet and dries, or gets hot and cold the wood will swell and shrink leaving gaps between the planks for water to get in. I always painted both inside and outside with fiberglass epoxy. (It also strengthens the wood.) I put the fiberglass inside where it would not show and on the outside I would paint it with just the epoxy resin mixed two parts resin with one part alcohol to thin it out like paint. The alcohol evaporates and leaves a hard waterproof finish. Bob mtaylor and KAT 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted March 27, 2017 Share #7 Posted March 27, 2017 Hello KAT, Ulises Victoria a Mexican member lives in Monterey. Perhaps if you contact him by PM he could help you with information on suitable wood available in Mexico. He has a build log of the Royal Louis on page 7 of the Kit Build section of the forum. Kind regards, Dave mtaylor, KAT and Ulises Victoria 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAT Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted March 29, 2017 Thank you for your answers guys, i will put to practice your suggestions, ill let you know what worked out for me the best as soon as i have it solved XD aviaamator and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted April 6, 2017 Share #9 Posted April 6, 2017 On 3/27/2017 at 2:59 AM, Jaager said: Since you are in a more tropical region, your choice of local hardwood will probably be different from what we in the temperate zone have available. If you have a local hardwood merchant with milling services you may be able to obtain timber stock at a lower cost than mail order import. Depends on where in Mexico. Mexicali & Tijuana are going to be completely different than Mexico City! KAT and mtaylor 2 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAT Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted April 9, 2017 Im from Mexico city :/ mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted April 9, 2017 Share #11 Posted April 9, 2017 Hello Kat. I have the advantage of living in Monterrey, just a couple of hours from Texas. I have a company who provides me with an address in Texas to order my stuff there and then brings them to Monterrey for a reasonable 16% of invoice value. Not sure if there are such companies in CDMX but it is worth to investigate. Most of my purchases I make through Amazon, and woods and ship/hobby related things I order from the sponsors at the right of this forum's main page. Member Karleop is from Guaymas, and I think we are the only Mexicans really active in this forum. Hope this helps!!! Ulises mtaylor 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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