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Hello Doris,

 

the horse looks great, but I would shorten the head a little and make the transition between neck and head a little thicker. 

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Siggi

 

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Hello dear Siggi,
you are right, I have been thinking about this as well. After baking it is not possible to change the shape - the mass is already tough, but I improved the sculpture in other way. Soon I will bring new pics. 
I do appreciate your advice to achieve better results in my work. Thank you very much.

 

Best regards,

Doris

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HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you, Karl, I am pleased you like my work.

 

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Well, I modified and improved the statue of horse (head, neck and other details). I must say, I am much more satisfied with the result now.

 

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I am very grateful you help me find better ways for better and more realistic results.

 


Kind regards,
Doris

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The last horse does look more like a war horse.   Beautiful work.

Mark
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Hello dear friends,
I am pleased, you like my sculpting. I am very grateful for you comments and praise.
Glad to say that the statue is already finished and gilded. The horseman was completd from several separately created parts and finished on horseback. In the end I added harness and let harden complete statue again in the oven.

 

Here are some pics from process:

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Doris

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HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That is a masterpiece in miniature, Doris.   

Mark
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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Beautiful! I was anxious seeing the earlier photos, as a horseman leans forward as the horse jumps, and the Vale painting shows him upright. However - whew! - I see you corrected that in the final photos. Bravo!

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Doris.... it is difficult to add to what has already been said...Superb doesn't seem adequate somehow.

A beautiful rendition of the figurehead!!

 

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Hello dear friends,
thank you very much for your comments, opinions and "likes", that is a great pleasure for me and also a motivation to other work. I do appreciate your support a lot.

The sculpture is already placed on the bow of RK and today I have finished other sculptures and decoration according to Vale´s painting. It is not finished yet, I will fill the inner space (between knights) to match it to museum models from this period.

 

 

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Best regards, 

Doris

 

 

 

 

 

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Doris

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HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Doris,

 

Your figurehead is amazing!  There is little I can add to the compliments you have already received, and which are richly deserved.

 

What I would like to say is how much I like the focused, and incremental progression of your work, as it is reflected in this build log. We are on a journey with you, and your candor with your methods and reasoning, combined with your research are really eye-opening.  You have captured the imagination of us all, and that us what I have always thought this hobby was about, in the first place.

 

KUDOS to you, my friend!

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Magnificent!

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

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Hello Doris.

I noticed that the scale of the horse looks smaller than shown by the painting. Did you think, or know, that the painting was not accurate enough? Or was there another reason for your choice of scale?

 

Best regards.

Peter.

 

PS. Mango with Macadamia nuts

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Hello dear friends,
let me express my gratitude for your compliments and kind words. That is a great honor for me and your comments and opinions are much appreciated. Thank you all very much.
 

8 hours ago, Hubac's Historian said:

Hello Doris,

 

Your figurehead is amazing!  There is little I can add to the compliments you have already received, and which are richly deserved.

 

What I would like to say is how much I like the focused, and incremental progression of your work, as it is reflected in this build log. We are on a journey with you, and your candor with your methods and reasoning, combined with your research are really eye-opening.  You have captured the imagination of us all, and that us what I have always thought this hobby was about, in the first place.

 

KUDOS to you, my friend!

Hello dear friend,

I am glad you like my presentation of this model. As I have already written, my target is to achieve historically more accurate result and create realistic model of the Royal Katherine. I like to combine entertainment and education. And I also want to improve my work and technologies to be able to achieve better results. 
I am pleased I can share my build with other people.I am interested in opinions and also appreciate constructive criticism, which allows me to improve my work.

 

2 hours ago, Tecko said:

Hello Doris.

I noticed that the scale of the horse looks smaller than shown by the painting. Did you think, or know, that the painting was not accurate enough? Or was there another reason for your choice of scale?

 

Best regards.

Peter.

 

PS. Mango with Macadamia nuts

The right remark, Peter. The sculpture of the horse on Vale´s painting is bigger, but when I compare it with museum models from this period, the similar sculptures on the bow are usually smaller. So I have decided to make it a bit smaller as well. There are some mistakes on Vale´s painting (for example you can find there some details used in later period - the appearance of windowpanes, some parts of rigiing) and there are also proportionate and perspective discrepancies.

Vale painted the picture around 1690, but at that time RK had a different look. The ship in the painting represents her appearance around 1670.

 

Here are some pics from other museum models from this period (HMS Prince, Saint Michael, Sheldon´s model...):

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And here we discussed the wrong proportions on the stern and QG and windows:

https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=110763&start=270#p2091987

https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=177&t=110763&start=345#p2100497

 

Best regards

Doris

 

 

 

 

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Doris

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HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for your comments and "likes", dear friends.

 

To Tecko: You are welcome, Peter. I try to find suitable solution from available information to achieve more realistic result, but I have to admit, it is often very difficult.

 

To archjofo: Thank you Johann, your praise means a lot for me. The same to your magnificent work.

 

Yesterday I finished last few pieces of decoration for the bow sculptures and here is the result:

 

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Soon I will start with new decoration for the bow section and bulkhead.

 

Best regards and enjoy the pics

Doris

Doris

Current build:

HMS Royal Katherine 1664 from card

 

 

 

 

 

 

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