IJN Amatsukaze by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - Halinski - 1:200 scale - CARD and Brass - WW2 Japanese Destroyer -

[Eddie]

Hey howya goin Danny mate, nice start. How long is she going to be when you finished?    

[Dan Vadas]

15 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Hey howya goin Danny mate, nice start. How long is she going to be when you finished?    

Thanks Eddie, she's 600mm long.

 

  Danny

[Dan Vadas]

The Frames are only 1mm thick, and the horizontal centre brace is 0.5mm thick. That's not a real lot to butt two hull sheets together and glue, so I've glued in extra 1mm card to both sides of them. I've Faired half of the hull frames using 150 grit sandpaper on various shaped sanding sticks :

 

 

  Danny

[Jim Lad]

You're really steaming ahead with this one, Danny.  Good idea to reinforce the framing.

 

John

[Captain Slog]

Looking nice. Good idea with adding some width to the forms, Borodino had the same issue butting 2 skins on to 1 mm but I was too lazy to do what you did. 

 

Cheers

Slog

[cog]

Nice Danny,

 

Anoher IJN build, glad I found it in time, about halfway through right ... strange to hear about a card build with PE, haven't seen that yet. I saw it's not just the "simplicity" of instructions you encounter, but you seem to have parts on "none" sheets too, are those the left out sheets, or just clearly invisible?

 

Cheers

[Dan Vadas]

34 minutes ago, cog said:

you seem to have parts on "none" sheets too, are those the left out sheets, or just clearly invisible?

Thanks John and Slog .

 

Carl, the instructions actually mention that there are no parts with those numbers. It must have been an error when they had the pages printed.

 

  Danny

[src]

Once again I am late to the party. I blame it on the long swim across the Pacific. I'll drip dry over here in the corner if that ok so as not to get water all over the card stock.

Sam

[Dan Vadas]

Hi Sam, better late than never .

 

While Fairing the frames I had a little Oopsie (or four ) - a bit of a slip with the sanding stick :

 

 

This sort of thing can lead to bigger problems down the track when I skin the hull, as the panel could get "sucked" into the dip when the glue dries and shrinks, leaving a dent. Rather than using some kind of Filler to fix the problem I sanded the whole section down to the thickness of a piece of paper and glued a strip in :

 

 

The Fairing is turning out to be the best I've ever done, even better than Vulture's . It needs to be, as there's no going back once the skins get glued on without some major dramas.

 

  Danny

[Walter Biles]

Danny It looks like you've got an international puzzle to build.  Great job!

Walt

[Dziadeczek]

On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 0:56 PM, Paul Jarman said:

 

 

On ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 3:12 AM, Dan Vad said:

  Danny

 

On ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 3:12 AM, Dan Vad said:

Seriously though, can anyone translate this for me? It's the passage in Polish (without the accents etc) :

 

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Sklejamy kolowrotycz. 47/50, K1 i rozmieszczamy wg rysunków montazowych

This word won't translate either : dalocelownik

 

  Danny

 

 

Dan,

I am Polish and I may try to help you with the instructions.

It seems to me that there are some misprints in the original instructions, because in the entire Polish language there is no such thing like "kolowrotycz". It looks to me that they are talking about windlasses (plural) = kolowroty, from the singular "kolowrot", and there should be a space afterwards and then an abbreviation "cz." from the word "czesc", or plural "czesci" = meaning "parts".

The entire quoted part of a sentence should therefore read (in English): "we glue the windlasses, parts 47/50, K1 and place them, following the assembly drawings".

A bit weird, but...

English is their second language, after all.  

 

Regards,

Thomas

PS: As far as the word "dalocelownik", I think that they abbreviated two of them into one. The first perhaps should be "dalmierz" = a rangefinder(?) and the second "celownik" = a sight, a viewfinder (?).

If you scan the entire page of the instructions and send it to me, perhaps I would be able to figure it out better.

[vossiewulf]

2 hours ago, Dziadeczek said:

Dan,

I am Polish and I may try to help you with the instructions.

My first wife was Polish, her parents are immigrants who settled in Torrington CT, when I visited there entire sections of the town were Polish. I liked that there was a bar on the corner of about every block, right in the middle of the housing neighborhoods, so no one has to drive  

 

Arriving at their house was a caricature with like 42 pounds of hot food ready to eat with her mother saying eat! Eat more! Try this! over and over, it's amazing how many pirogi you can eat when the Polish lady who made them is staring at you

 

Another thing I like is that although they haven't had exactly the best experiences in wars, they contribute hugely to the field of military history, completely out of scale of their population. I don't understand that but am extremely appreciative and there are many books by Polish authors and publishers around this house.

[Dan Vadas]

12 hours ago, Dziadeczek said:

PS: As far as the word "dalocelownik", I think that they abbreviated two of them into one. The first perhaps should be "dalmierz" = a rangefinder(?) and the second "celownik" = a sight, a viewfinder (?).

Thank you Thomas. I'd already worked out "dalocelonik" :

 

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Using the same idea I broke "dalocelonik" down to "dalo celo nik" which came up with "gave the viewer" (parts 43) - the assembly is a Range-finder .

Also with "cz." - Google Translate actually came up with "part" when I tried it on it's own. Thanks for "kolowroty " - that one I couldn't get at all .

 

Good story Vossie . My late father was actually born in Poland, but his family moved to Germany when he was a boy not long before the start of WW2.

 

  Danny

[Dan Vadas]

The extra frame supports I put in have come into use already. I've fitted the first two hull skins, and without them I would have had all sorts of problems. The "bumps" opposite the forecastle bulkhead are supposed to be there, as is the odd way the forecastle deck is fitted to the top of the hull. It'll look a lot different when more pieces are installed :

 

 

I'm really happy with the way these went on, it was something I was dreading a bit but these are probably the two hardest ones to fit .

 

Cheers,  Danny

[Captain Slog]

1 hour ago, Dan Vad said:

 

I'm really happy with the way these went on

 

And so you should be, you're off to a great start!

 

cheers

Slog

[popeye the sailor]

super progress Danny.......great fixes on the frame and a good start on the skin!  

[Elijah]

Wow.... Those bulkheads look like wood!

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks Slog and Popeye, appreciated .

 

3 hours ago, Elijah said:

Wow.... Those bulkheads look like wood!

Elijah, when I was Fairing them I had to keep reminding myself they were Card so that I didn't sand too much off them .

 

  Danny

 

[BANYAN]

Great progress Dan, she is coming al;ong very well; the careful sanding has sure provided great dividends for you.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Dan Vadas]

Thank you Pat.

 

This is one of the Hawses, a rather tricky piece to get right. It didn't help that the edging piece was 1mm short so I had to glue in a piece of filler. I've glued a spare piece of coloured card to the 2nd one's edge piece in anticipation of the same thing happening. Luckily the kit has several blank pieces of coloured card which can be used for situations like this.

 

I'll need to be very careful that I shape the outer edge correctly to suit the curvature of the hull sheet, or I may experience the same problem that Slog did with the Mylar insert for one of his Portholes on Borodino which was on a bend. I'll sand and paint the edges in matching grey before fitting :

 

 

  Danny

[Jim Lad]

Coming on very nicely, Danny!

 

John

[cog]

It seems you deal quite well with tricky parts, Dan. As you wrote:, Just a glop of paint on the edges before fitting ...

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks again John and Carl.

 

The hawse skins both fitted up really well. The pieces that overhang at the bow will be trimmed off later. It took me nearly all day to finish the hawses and fit the skins, things should be easier from now on :

 

 

  Danny

[cog]

Looks spiffy, especially starboard!

 

"things should be easier from now on" That's what modellers always say, until proven contrary

[Jim Lad]

Of course things will be easier now, Danny - after all, isn't the tooth fairy helping you? 

 

John

[Dan Vadas]

Ok, things haven't got any easier yet . I've fitted the skins around the bow. These are in four pieces with a join straight down the centre and two small pieces at the top. The centre join is totally invisible, and the port side came out pretty well. The joins look a lot better than the macro lens brings them up , the "shadows" that look like dents are actually some water-colour touch-up (I still haven't quite nailed the right formula for the grey, but I'll get it eventually ) :

 

 

However, despite my best efforts, I finished up with a bit of a dog's dinner when I fitted the top piece to the starboard side. Any suggestions on how to fill the gap? I'll probably end up pulling the top piece out again and cut a new one :

 

 

  Danny

[vossiewulf]

Danny is part of the goal to only use the kit materials? Because I've never built anything out of the box, I always replace things, usually many things. I ask as that if I was doing that particular kit I probably would have done the bows with a couple pieces of balsa with some 1/64" plywood over it, and then just paint the whole hull. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, I'm impressed with the engineering of the kit but not how they're printing the colors.

[Dan Vadas]

2 hours ago, vossiewulf said:

Danny is part of the goal to only use the kit materials? Because I've never built anything out of the box, I always replace things, usually many things. I ask as that if I was doing that particular kit I probably would have done the bows with a couple pieces of balsa with some 1/64" plywood over it, and then just paint the whole hull. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, I'm impressed with the engineering of the kit but not how they're printing the colors.

Vossie, I'm trying NOT to paint the hull if at all possible apart from the inevitable little touch-ups on the white edges. I'm still using this ship as a Learning Curve before starting Bismarck. I will however be using a substantial amount of PE for Railings, Stairs, Gratings, Radar Antennae etc as I regard that as a legitimate alternative which looks better than paper on those applications, and I'll be doing the same on Bismarck.

 

 The printed colours actually look fine to the naked eye - it's just the extreme close-up of the macro lens that brings up the pattern in it. Even with a 3.5x magnifier you can just barely make it out. They have printed a subtle amount of "weathering" and rust stains which looks quite good .

 

The problem with that upper piece at the bow came from the extra filling I'd used underneath it - I guess I sanded a touch too much off it and didn't pick up on that until I actually glued the piece in and pressed it into place. The Craft Glue I'm using dries very quickly so I couldn't pull the piece back out to fix the problem until it was too late. I've decided to remove the small piece and make a new one. I'd thought of using something like Tamiya Putty to fill it, but I doubt it would do the job to my satisfaction (besides, I don't have any and can't get any until next week ).

 

  Danny

[Dan Vadas]

Apart from the re-do on the small bow piece I've skinned the upper part of the hull. It all fitted well, apart from ........

 

 

....... where the sides met the already fitted front skins on both sides :

 

 

I cut a couple of thin strips of spare card and glued them into the gaps. Pretty good, if I say so myself :

 

 

I had a feeling I was going to have a problem with this. The point of the bow was a bit long and needed trimming back about the same amount as the width of the gaps. If the instructions would have said to skin from the stern to the bow instead of vice-versa this would have been avoided. It was a bit difficult working out exactly where to align the first two skins I fitted, and apparently I got it wrong.

 

  Danny

[popeye the sailor]

it's a good fix........as you say,  your gleaning all you can for the big one