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Don'tforget to make a rabbet at thet stern: Corel does not give that one, and the rudder area will certainly look better if you include one.

 

there are a couple of tricky points, but overall it is a kit of good quality. I hope you are going to put a nice layer of paint over the gold bling-bling those Italians put in theirbox....

 

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5 hours ago, amateur said:

Don't forget to make a rabbet at the stern:

 

I hope you are going to put a nice layer of paint over the gold bling-bling those Italians put in theirbox....

Jan

 

Jan, I had thought about cutting in a rabbet at the stern and bow to make installing the planking easier.  I should have done it first thing prior to setting the bulkheads which would have made it a lot easier but I wasn't confident enough about cutting the rabbet in before I knew exactly where it was located.  Why make it easy when complicated works just as well ;)

 

I do plan on painting the bling. As of right now I'm thinking of making them look weathered and not brand new.

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Started to do some prep work prior to starting the planking.  There is channel shaped wood stock that is to be cut and used for the dummy cannon ports. These pieces are installed behind the first layer of planking as the hull is planked. The ports are to be painted black so I gave the strips a few coats of black paint prior to cutting them and then I will just touch them up once they're installed.

 

The directions also say to pre-drill the back of the dummy ports for the installation of the dummy cannon half's prior to installing them.  I was wondering if it would be better to drill them after they're glued in place otherwise how can I ensure that all the holes will be in the right place. 

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The directions also recommended covering the #6 and #12 bulkheads above the decks prior to installing the hull planking.  

 

#12 bulkhead, rubber band helped keep the pieces in place while installing.

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#6 bulkhead, this one was a little challenging, did it with the ship vertical.

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I always wait to drill the holes for the dummy cannons till after the ports are opened up and I can verify the position but before the lids are set. It is easy to reach in with a drill bit and make a hole where needed and then you know the alignment is right. Just make sure the blocks are positioned right!

 

Bulkheads look nice and it can be easier to install them before planking the outside. I also like to plank my decks as much as possible before planking the outside. Makes it easier to work and gives a cleaner look along the edges.

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You cantplank thedecksbefore you do theoutside: the upper ends of the bulkheads have to be removed before you can plank the deck.

(don't forget to put some tape on the outside of the bulkhead-tops: makes removing them a lot easier)

btw there is some metalwork on bulkhead 6, put that on before planking, othrrwise it is almost out of reach (speaking from experience;) )

 

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Jan thanks for the tips.   That's a good idea to put tape on the exterior side of the upper bulkheads prior to planking.  I was trying to think of a way to keep the planking from adhering to them so their removal would be easier.   

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It's been a while since my last post but I've been working on my Father's Day's present that I treated myself to (it's always a good excuse for a new toy ;)).  This is something I always wanted to try and it only took a few weeks.  I won't go into a lot of detail just a few pictures.

 

Started with this

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Finished product

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Now back to the ship.

 

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Sorry for the long period between posts but it’s been a busy summer.  I finally started the first layer of planking and for the most part I have been following the procedure outlined in the manual for placing the planks and dummy gun ports behind them.

 

 

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I made a little jig to pre-bend the planks to fit the sharp bend at the bow.  I used a hand held steamer to soften the wood as I bent them. 

 

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I order to make it easier to glue the planks in place I pre-positioned the planking along the bulkheads after steaming them and allowed them to dry overnight.

 

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On 9/7/2017 at 2:22 PM, Sailor1234567890 said:

Is that a functional rifle?

Yes it is although I have not tried it out yet.  May fire it once or twice and then hang it on the wall.

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Continuing with the first layer of planking.   Going slow but steady.

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I deviated a bit from the instructions on the planking placement and gunport openings.  I've decided to place the planks in continuous pieces over the gunports and then go back and cut out the openings later.  All the dummy gunports have been glued to the backside of the planks in their appropriate positions and marked on the exterior of the planking in order to cut them out.  I'll let you know how this works out.

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The bow will need a little work to fill the gaps in the planking.

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I do have one question.  The kit drawings show the gunports, more or less, perpendicular to the sheer of the ship. The gunports shown on the drawing from Herman Ketting's book shows them vertical.  Although I personally like the looks of the ports that follow the sheer should they be vertical?

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In Dutchshipbuilding of this period, the sheer of the decks was lessthan the sheel of the wales, gunports following the sheer of the wales result in problems (check the aft round gunport: no way you could get a gun into that one when you place it accordingly to the Coreldrawings)

 

the drawing by Ketting shows how it was doen in the model in theRijksmuseum: the sides perpendicular to the waterline, the sills followig the sheer of the decks.  You could do perpendicular ports, but you couldn't do porst that follow the sheer of the wales (on the other hand: repositioning the ports while you already fitted those black u-profile might get you in some trouble...

 

another remark: Corel does put a gun into every port that can be seen inthe ship. When you check Kettings drawing, you''ll seethat there is no deck on which a gun could be placed (especially the small ports in the staterooms werenot intended to have a gun, they were intended just for what they are: windows and ventilation.

 

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I finally found the piece of planking I was looking for....the last piece. 

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Prior to closing up the hull I like to add a little 'treasure' for anyone who might find it.

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The next step was to cut out and square up the gunports and then to sand and smooth the hull planks. 

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Needed to use some wood filler at the bow.

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I'm happy for the most part with the way the first layer of planking came out.  In hindsight I probably should have tapered the planks at the bow contrary to what the directions said that it wasn't required.   I'll be out of town for a few weeks so the shipyard will be shutdown for a while.

 

 

 

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Nice work Sal! I like the treasure you hid in the hold. That's a fun idea!

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It's been a while since my last post for a couple of reasons.  One, after getting back from my trip it took me a while to get back into the swing of things, and two, I was having a mental block, which for me is quite often, on how to shape the stern galleries.  After some deliberations and some libations I finally shaped the galleries and glued then to the ship.

 

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Then I started on the second planking at the stern.  Using a photocopy of the drawing showing the diagonal planking at the stern I cut out a pattern and taped it in place.  Using the pattern I drew some guidelines to help position the planking at the correct angle.

 

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I realized after that once the first plank was glued in place the remaining guide lines weren't really needed.

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Both sides were completed and allowed to dry overnight.  The next day I sanded the edges on the planking following the contour of the hull.  The gun ports will be cut out later.

 

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Looking very nice Sal! That last photo of the sanded planks looks very crisp!

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Thanks Sjors

 

Continuing with the stern planking I worked my way up from the curved lower transom to the upper transom.

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I used some lead shot to help keep the planking in place while the glue dried.

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Finished stern planking

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I left out some of the planking and the transom moulding because that moulding needs to line up with the main wales along the hull.  Once the main wales along the hull are in place I will go back and cut in the transom moulding and finish the planking.  I also need to finish shaping the top of the stern transom planking.

 

 

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Started on the second planking by laying out the position of the first wale based on the drawings.

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After drying overnight I started placing the planking and the other wales. Both sides were planked at the same time.

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 I also cut out the gun port openings as I went.  Not exactly sure on how to finish the planking at the Bow deck so I left it a little long for now.

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