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Mitbok, it would be interesting to know how you made the turnbuckle?

Keith

 

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J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

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I will try to take pictures when making more of them. Basically shaped it out of brass tube and wire.

Matched inner diameter of the tube and diameter of the wire (puled wire through draw plate)

Tube sides were slitted with cutting disc/Dremel and shaped with files

Thread was done by cheap jewelers  tap and die set (0.7mm to 2.0mm) I got from ebay

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Was trying to come up with a uniform method of producing the turnbuckles but it didn't work out too well.

Also a problem is that left and right handed thread has to be made on opposite sides but i don't have the tap and die set for that.

Will have to tighten them by spinning the cable itself. Here are some pictures of me making them but there was a great deal of

shaping with small files as well20170917_001914_resized.thumb.jpg.d53ade9498c0d1bddd5c0c879884532c.jpg20170917_235229.thumb.jpg.2ebda4afb39c231ede2b9d2d486b2ec3.jpg20170918_003519.thumb.jpg.d8a9455c8e74e9566b286417045ca9de.jpg20170918_005545.thumb.jpg.75aa217ecc71627f27880dbb181c46d9.jpg20170918_015521.thumb.jpg.174111eea9b8881bd0794ef77c93c33c.jpg20170920_000045.thumb.jpg.506c2700acbeb63c20f71c593338b4de.jpg

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Thank you, I'll try it some time.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Slowly moving forward. Thy God I am doing a fictional model. My references for Annie are all over the place for many parts of the boat. Seems it was modernized through the years but than her last overhaul took her back, closer to original set up. I did the bowsprit rigging in what seems to be a current set up and plans for it

 shown in an article in older Ships in Scale magazine are same . Mast in that article is described differently from set up that Annie has now. Older mast had metal gear and now seems all blocks are tied to mast with line through wooden braces which looks like an older way of rigging the mast. I am trying to build a boat how it would look like in 1880-1900's. Wonder if steel wire stays could have been used back than.

 

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She is such a cute little boat. Such nice lines and a lovely build.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Has been a while since I posted so here are some details of latest work:

Installed bowsprit, boomkin and mast, made the mast hoops.

Now working on the main boom with its jaws.

I also covered everything with OSMO oil and weathered with bitumen.

Not shure if I like the result.

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Coming along very well. Nice hoops - how were they made?

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

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Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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For hoops I cut a strip of pear with cross section approximately 1.2 by 0.8 mm.  Dipped it in water and

coiled it on my plank bending tool (luckily diameter matched the mast). Than just cut the hoops, filed the edges

and glued it together. Afterwards did some final filing/sanding and coated twice with shellac.20171127_104840.thumb.jpg.9307b9f2df5912b4d567a7673e51f3a5.jpg

another set of jaws completed, these were a bit more complicated

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Hi

very lovely model & wonderful boats.

 

A question: in an early photo the hull is massed up with bulkheads & solid blocking - is this the hull that you painted or did you line it off with thin surface planks?

 

You said early on in the posts that there are none in existence? Perhaps there are no original ones left, but a friend from Sydney was involved this year in taking several historic 18 Sydney footers over to USA to race against some sandbaggers. See some information & photos here of the event, (& I am guessing that off centre harbour will do a video on it): 

https://www.sydneyflyingsquadron.com.au/8-footers-taking-on-the-usa/

https://www.facebook.com/AussieOpenBoat/photos/pcb.1698530063513134/1698525546846919/?type=3

https://smallboatsmonthly.com/2017/09/sydney-flying-squadron-visit-annapolis-md/

 

It is interesting that there were 22' & 24' skiffs here & from what you can see in the old photos they were really quite similar lines to your lovely model. 

 

all the best, very nice,

 

Mark

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Hi Mark!

 

Yes, if you look at the picture below the one you mentioned, you will see hull being planked with basswood strips.

O could have probably just cover it with bondo, sand it and paint it but that would not be true to original construction.

Also the outline of the planks is noticeable through paint and oil, just like on the real boat.

 

I have seen Bull and Bear, very nice boats. There are several modern builds that are in private hands as well.

http://www.vandamboats.com/modern-sandbagger-sloop-wooden-sailboat

But Annie is the only rigged  "original" I am aware of and she was rebuilt many times so not much (if any) of her original timbers

are there. There are some non sailing hulls in museums too. What I meant is this is a very rear boat to see out on the water

comparing to, lets say, catboats that are still sailing around (had one 100 year old moored for a season right next to my boat in Brooklyn)

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Mitbok:  Just discovered your tremendous model.  The only thing better than your woodworking skills is your metal working skills.  (Or it could be the other way round.)

Sometimes I get confused about whether your photos are of a real boat or of your model.

Great, great model.

Cheers.

Ken

 

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..had to take a peek.......amazing what I see!  :)     very  well done model.......like the way you made the turnbuckles...those are neat!   it requires a left and right hand tap to make them?   is you halyard rigging just temporary?   it probably should be rigged on a couple more places to better support the gaff.

 

darn nice looking model though...kudos!  ;) 

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Thank you guys!

 

Dwalker

This is just an old Glencoe coast guard rescue boat plastic kit in 1/48 scale. Horrible mold.

 

Yes turnbuckles need left and right tap but I only had one type so they are not working the way they suppose to.

I used cheap China made tap set and wasnt sure where to get both right and left in this size besides very expensive 

watch makers tools.

All running rigging is temporary, just to stretch out the spars and run the  string as an outline of the sail.

This was done to get  exact measurements for sails to be made. The are being sewn in Russia and somewhat expensive

so did not want to take chances with size.

 

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Lovely looking model. Well done.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

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On 03/03/2018 at 1:41 AM, popeye the sailor said:

it probably should be rigged on a couple more places to better support the gaff.

good question. Mitbok, what is the peak halyard to gaff rigging?

 

A large but low aspect rig, very interesting. She will be a beautiful display model.

 

Mark

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