cog Posted December 6, 2017 Share #61 Posted December 6, 2017 If this is 15% than I'm real curious what the other 85% will be about. I presume you will be building up quite a few layerd structures, like that forward deck superstructure ... Canute, popeye the sailor, John Allen and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share #62 Posted December 11, 2017 Well there's still two layers of planking to be done. Also these ships tend to have a bajillion of very very tiny parts to be built. Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 11, 2017 Share #63 Posted December 11, 2017 stumbled onto your build....looks very interesting looking forward in seeing more. mtaylor, Canute and Old Collingwood 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share #64 Posted December 13, 2017 Thank you Popeye Scharnhorst Issue 22 We finally get to take a break from roof related shenanigans and deal with the bow and stern of the ship instead. For these we receive 2 plastic mouldings each which are epoxy-glued together and onto the ends of the hull. This is where the decision to use MDF to form the hull starts to make sense, because fit is absolutely perfect. These parts will make the planking of the hull (should we eventually start it at some point) infinitely easier. I'm usually not a big fan of plastic, but for these sections it makes things so much easier that I'm ok with it. Other options how these sections are done in other ships of this type are ceramic prefabs (prone to break, usually major fit issues) or building up the sections with layered plates of wood then sanding that block smooth (torturous work that usually ends in less than satisfying results) mtaylor, Old Collingwood, CDW and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted December 13, 2017 Share #65 Posted December 13, 2017 The plastic bow and stern pieces caught me by surprise. But I can see where those could be challenging to do in wood. It will be interesting to see later on how you'll blend the planking in with the plastic pieces. The model is shaping up very nicely. I like it. Canute, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share #66 Posted December 20, 2017 Scharnhorst issue 23 Back to roofs. This time we receive the first two upper deck plates. Those are just loosely laid down on the hull for now. The designers surprise me again, but this time in a positive way. There are cutouts in the plates to simply stick the deck structures into. Proper Fit and sit of the deck structures is usually a huge pain in the behind so this solution is nothing short of genius. Cathead, CDW, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted December 20, 2017 Share #67 Posted December 20, 2017 That’s interesting that Hachette (Amati?) have decided to use a plastic stern piece. Definitely an improvement on the Hood partwork. mtaylor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share #68 Posted December 27, 2017 It's a group of designers around Sergio Marletti that have split off from Amati. They originally designed the Bismarck. Amati isn't all that happy about this and released a rather sulky video saying so a while ago. And yeah, the plastic bow and stern pieces make things a whole lot easier. Scharnhorst issue 24 The next two deck plates arrive and are put in place loosely for now. Note the middle deck structure is the wrong way around because I'm dumb and should be turned around 180 degreees. Good thing that nothing is glued yet. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, CDW and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 28, 2017 Share #69 Posted December 28, 2017 that's what dry fitting is all about I'd say you were pretty smart in that respect.......what would have been considered dumb, is if it was glued in place. looks great! Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share #70 Posted January 3, 2018 Scharnhorst issue 25 The last deck plate is delivered and all of them are now fixed to the hull. Small tabs on the cutouts and edges make it easy to properly align the plates. ccoyle, Cathead, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share #71 Posted January 10, 2018 Scharnhorst issue 26 With the deck plates in place this is the perfect time to finally start planking the hull.... ... so instead we start kitting out the upper deck structures. The middle deck structures curved sections are covered with brass and for the first time it becomes clear why the layered "multi-roof" approach was taken for these. Any portholes instantly become actual holes, no need to fake things with paint or opening them up with a drill. It's pretty ingenious. We also build four ventilation system (?) thingys, to be installed at a later date. mtaylor, Canute, CDW and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share #72 Posted January 17, 2018 Scharnhorst 27 We start covering up the freestanding parts of the middle deck structures decks with brass from below. Again the piece is shown downside up. The brass extends beyond the wooden parts by ca a tenth of a millimeter which will provide a natural anchoring point for the railings we will be fitting soon. cog, Canute, Cathead and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Morrison Posted January 17, 2018 Share #73 Posted January 17, 2018 How did I miss this? I love the German capital ships and will follow along. By the way, if we cannot get these kits in the US, where can we find them? Is there an online source? Bill popeye the sailor, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share #74 Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bill Morrison said: How did I miss this? I love the German capital ships and will follow along. By the way, if we cannot get these kits in the US, where can we find them? Is there an online source? Bill They are usually exclusively sold through the partworks company. Your best bet would be trying to grab one off Ebay, when the collection is done in 2020. There is a surprising amount of people who collect these and then sell them for half price when they're done. Never understood that, but it's saved me hundreds of Euros so far. CDW, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted January 17, 2018 Share #75 Posted January 17, 2018 7 hours ago, greyhawk said: Scharnhorst 27 The brass extends beyond the wooden parts by ca a tenth of a millimeter which will provide a natural anchoring point for the railings we will be fitting soon. How soon... ? I am glad you are building many ships at the same time..... I could not cope with the way they distribute the parts....and I am very patient. Yves CDW, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share #76 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Quote How soon... ? I am glad you are building many ships at the same time..... I could not cope with the way they distribute the parts....and I am very patient. Yves I just finished fitting the railings an hour ago . The build log is two weeks behind real life to provide a buffer for delivery problems and well, actual buliding, so this one should drop 31 January. Edited January 17, 2018 by greyhawk Canute, popeye the sailor, CDW and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share #77 Posted January 24, 2018 Scharnhorst 28 Covered the rest of the walls and roof of the middle deck structures lower level with brass. We've reached the 20% point in this build, so it's time to have another look at the complete ship so far. CDW, Canute, yvesvidal and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share #78 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Scharnhorst Issue 29 We get to add the railings to the middle deck structure. Luckily the brass is pretty robust, as we have to bend it to follow the outline of the deck. This is made a little bit easier by the tiny overhang of the PE already attached, but still is not exactly a walk in the park because the brass wants to return to its earlier shape. So you have to overbend a bit, but not too much. Only when the brass perfectly follows the shape of the deck, can you glue it down, otherwise internal forces will soon rip it clean off again. For the first time the kit drops the pretense of "being easy enough anyone can build it" and the fallout is of course a lot of new builders dropping out of the build and trying to sell or even just give away their incomplete Scharnhorsts. Edited January 31, 2018 by greyhawk Cathead, yvesvidal, CDW and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted January 31, 2018 Share #79 Posted January 31, 2018 Would it be time to start painting that middle deck structure, before gluing the decks? Or are you still waiting for parts to be glued against the walls? Yves mtaylor, popeye the sailor and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 31, 2018 Share #80 Posted January 31, 2018 perhaps the fall out is from folks getting discouraged with how slow the process is. are you taking advantage? Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share #81 Posted January 31, 2018 It's mostly related to how dificult it is getting the railings aligned with the structure. Not taking advantage with this one, but I've bought up a LOT of old partworks people gave up on. Got the Victory, Stuka, Titanic, U-96 and Sovereign of the Seas all sitting in the basement waiting to be built. I'm set until retirement. 2 hours ago, yvesvidal said: Would it be time to start painting that middle deck structure, before gluing the decks? Or are you still waiting for parts to be glued against the walls? Yves Not the time yet. There's lots of stuff to be added still. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 31, 2018 Share #82 Posted January 31, 2018 the stuka.........how the heck did that get in there?!?!?! Canute, Old Collingwood and mtaylor 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share #83 Posted January 31, 2018 Stroke of luck really. Never intended to buy one, as completely unbuilt ones are super rare and quite expensive (think unopened Classic Pocher kit - that kind of expensive). Somehow I lucked into a guy that retrieved a complete and unbuilt collection from his parents attic and didn't quite know what he got there. Couldn't pass it up. popeye the sailor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 31, 2018 Share #84 Posted January 31, 2018 love the looks of those planes........I also like the Focke Wolf Canute 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted February 1, 2018 Share #85 Posted February 1, 2018 Yeah, I like those radial engine fighters from WWII. But my fave is the Spitfire, all Marks. Sorry to kinda steal your log, Greyhawk. Cathead, popeye the sailor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share #86 Posted February 1, 2018 No worries. I like my logs alive. Here's some looks at the Stuka by the way. Yeah, the things made out of brass. Old Collingwood, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted February 1, 2018 Share #87 Posted February 1, 2018 On 01/02/2018 at 12:02 PM, greyhawk said: No worries. I like my logs alive. Here's some looks at the Stuka by the way. Yeah, the things made out of brass. WOW - seriously WOW, im a plane nut so im sold OC. robdurant, popeye the sailor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 1, 2018 Share #88 Posted February 1, 2018 seriously nice work what scale? mtaylor, robdurant, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhawk Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share #89 Posted February 1, 2018 It's 1:16, so it is absurdly huge. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 1, 2018 Share #90 Posted February 1, 2018 I'm sorry.....am I drooling gotta have some weight to it when finished will it have a skin, or is the internals exposed? robdurant, Canute, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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