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I'm currently doing the 1st player of planking on the Vanguard from Amati. The kit supplied wood for the 1st layer is 1.5mm x 6.5 mm x 20 inches.  The length supplied is not long enough to reach from stem to stern...short by several inches (first build where I have had this issue). This is not a big problem for the 1st layer. All I am doing is staggering the butts between frames 7,8, and 9 (three of the mid ship ribs) and using two pieces to cover from stem to stern, not counting any stealers.

 

My question concerns the 2nd layer...1.0mm x 5mm x 20 inch walnut. Should I continue having just one butt staggered between frames 7,8, and 9 and have two pieces run from stem to stern excluding any required stealers, or should I do it like the deck, with 84 mm long pieces (or maybe 120 mm long) and a four staggered pattern? Unlike the deck, I would not try to add caulking lines or tree nails..at least I don't think I will. I used an 84mm long, 4 staggered pattern for the first deck.

 

I am not going to copper or paint the hull at all, so the walnut will be the final planking on the entire ship. I prefer doing my builds with the natural wood, several coats of Tung Oil and final coatings of matte finish poly.

 

Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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I would suggest cutting the planks to a scale length and then plank using the guidelines of the time, a 4 butt shift probably.  You will probably have two series of joints, on fore and one aft. 

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I didn't have that problem with either the first or second layer, that's quite surprising.  My kit is also from Amati and both layers had plenty of both woods and planks at the needed length supplied with the kit.  I'd start by contacting Amati.  My kit was short starboard side copper plating for some reason.  I contacted Amati and now have enough to also do another ship.  It took them a while to respond, but they did by sending the copper in original packaging.

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Glenn:

 

I think the problem with the Vanguard is that I originally bought the kit from Model Expo back in 2009. Mainly because of health issues, I wasn't able to start the build until recently. First I had to finish the Corsair which I had to stop working on about 4 years ago.

 

As you probably know, Model Expo had a licensing agreement back in 2009 with Amati to produce the Vanguard in the US. But that relationship with Amati went "south" in 2010. As I understand the agreement, Amati supplied the plans and all the Photo Etched parts, and ME supplied all the wood.

 

I think what happened is that ME used wood that they already produced in 20"-24" pieces...just like they sell today. Unfortunately, the planking supplied is only 20", so I have three choices...1) stagger the planks at the bow and stern ends only by several inches, 2) replace all the 20" walnut (1mm X 5mm) with longer pieces (not in my budget!), or 3) use the walnut supplied using a 120mm length...like on the deck, a 4 stagger pattern, but probably not try to put in tree nails (although I am considering doing this as well).

 

By the way...the kit also is missing one of the Photo Etched sheets. ME can not replace since they never made them for the kit. I have contacted Amati's US distributor asking for help, but haven't received any positive response. If you or anyone knows Amati's e-mail or phone number, I would like to contact them. When I use the E-mail form on their website, I get a message that the E-mail was "undeliverable". If anyone can help me to contact them, or have some PE sheets from the model, I would be more than happy to pay any costs since I can't finish the model without those PE parts. They are the parrels and rigging hooks.

 

 

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I forgot to mention that the Amati PE sheet that is missing was identified in the parts list as "WP 1713" which includes all the parrels and rigging hooks. I also forgot that kit had an extra PE sheet labeled "WP 1717". If anyone needs the duplicate sheet and has an extra PE sheet with the parrels and rigging hooks (ME told me that the part numbers might have changed in the past 8 years), I would be glad to exchange or pay for the one I need.

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