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HMS Winchelsea - 1764 - Scratch by Chuck (1/4" scale) - version two

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Absolutely...I have read a good deal but please send me via PM so the build log doesnt get to clogged with non-build info.  The yellow cedar is wonderful stuff.  

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Here is a very accurate photo on a neutral background to showcase the yellow cedar stem.  This should give you a really good idea of the grain (lack of) and texture of the wood.  It does not darken along the end grain.  Laser char is at a minimum and this has just a light coat of wipe on poly.  After a few months the color will deepen to nice amber color but it holds a really crisp edge and sands great.  Its a soft wood but finished nothing like a soft wood.  It finishes like a hard wood similar to boxwood in my opinion.  But at a 40% or so discount.

 

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Chuck

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Chuck, the Yellow Cedar looks great. Will you also use it for the keel? You say it's softer. Does that mean it's also more flexible? Does that matter in this case? I'm only asking because as a newbie I'm trying to learn. I know the planking and other structure will add rigidity and it won't undergo the stresses of a real ship so maybe it's not an issue at all.

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Chuck,

 

I am glad to see this project underway again. I am eager to build this when the kit becomes available!

 

- Tim I.

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On 09/02/2018 at 8:51 PM, Chuck said:

In addition,  I am not sure you guys are aware of this yet, but you will be soon.  The price for C.Boxwood has increased 75-100% over the last two-three months.

Thanks a lot for the tip, bought a bunch of sheets just for the future. So far the price from my favourite European vendor (Arkowood) is the same as it was in 2015, but good to know that it might increase soon!

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This is just in the states Mike...I have no idea what is happening in Europe but I am actually looking to buy bulk from Europe soon as the prices do seem to be stable there.  Also it is very very tough to find 12/4 stock boxwood in the states now and it is plentiful in Europe.  There is just the shipping and taxes to contend with.  Gilmer on the west coast of the US for example only has 8/4 boxwood and its priced at $40 per board foot now as opposed to $24 per board foot just last year.  Its a bit of a ripp-off.

 

I have been led to believe by those suppliers that it is because of the increased tax placed on all lumber imported into the US by these companies.  But who knows why....could just be greed.

 

Chuck

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These are very interesting news. I like the color of the yellow ceda. I think it will be looking really nice with my favorite pear wood and a nice choice for my HMS Triton. But in the moment I don't have any idea where to buy tis kind of timber in Europe.

I like the idea of building the model in 1/48. So it has the same scale as my other projects.

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Just a quick update...Alaskan yellow cedar is being used for this model.

 

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The new 1/4" scale stem is now assembled onto the bulkhead former.  The rabbet strip was added to the bulkhead former first (5/32 x 1/16).  After that dried, the Bformer was beveled along the bearding line into the rabbet strip.  Then the stem assembly was glued to that.

 

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Finally, the individual keel pieces which are laser cut were glued in succession along the bottom of the bulkhead former.  To finish it off, the bolts were simulated using 15 pound black mono filament. 

 

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I assembled some right angle braces that I designed for the build board to keep the false keel from twisting and bending.  Now its time to laser cut those bulkheads and add them. To give you a sense of size...the build board is 36" long.

 

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Chuck

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Hi Chuck

 

It looks really great!

 

Will the masts be stepped on deck or will a slot be cut out at some point? I wondered whether that was what the black marks were for but they seem too far forward and aft for the fore and mizzen masts respectively?

 

Really fascinating to see your well thought through design coming together. Cedar looks lovely too.

 

Thanks

 

Rob

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no that is just painters tape. It is used to just make the bulhead former fit tighter within the three brackets.  i use painters tape a lot for this purpose because it can easily be removed later. The bformer is nice and snug now.

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A number of our group have seen Rusty's model of your first version. It was a delight to behold! So this version should be nothing short of spectacular and a joy to build with your continued refinement of technique. Now the big question is how long do I have to stand in line to buy one??????

Joe

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Oh it wont be too long hopefully now that I dont have to wait until the entire project is completed and a book is published and printed.  I can release parts of the project as I complete them much like I did for Cheerful.  Hopefully the starter package will be released shortly after planking has begun.  I have attached the first chapter to give you guys an idea of what the monograph will look like.  I am more than happy to answer any questions or embellish any parts of the monograph should more detail be needed.  But this will at least give you guys an idea of what I am shooting for.  I also wanted to mention again that I have many images of the contemporary model that I will be sharing along the way which I am sure no one has seen yet.  Here is one showing the headrails and cheeks....I am getting really excited again to get into the thick of building this model.

 

Chapterone.pdf

 

Chuck

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That will be a seperate mini kit because they are easy enough to make on your own for anyone who wants to do so.  No sense in forcing people to spend for more than they intend to use.  I like to give as many options as possible if it makes it more economical. :)  I would also recommend that everyone buys or makes a set of these because they can be reused for all models at this stage of construction.  Its worth the time to make them.

 

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Chuck

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Thanks...I still have to edit it.  Its on the list of things to do.

 

Below is a dry fit of the bulkheads and stern frames.  All looks good to go for the next step.

 

And just this one time only...I dragged out the old dusty and broken 3/16" scale version of the Winnie for a size comparison.  They are lined up at the stern so you can see the difference.  What a mess the old model is....full of dust and filthy as well as busted up a bit.

 

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Two Winnies!!!!

 

 

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Chuck you provide the most concise instruction booklets available. They are awesome and I would like to make a suggestion based on ten years of writing technical documentation. Number your photos and refer to that number in your instructions. Lessens confusion. Looking forward to this kit.

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