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Revenge 1577 by xodar461 - Amati - Scale 1:64

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time for a new update.   after the planking below the wale was completed, the waterline was drawn and then painted.  this is also the time to construct and hang the rudder.  The tiller arm (orange arrow, second pic) is also connected to the whipstaff assemble at this time.  The quality of the rudder hinges is quite good.DSC_0001.thumb.JPG.d6218d422d3ece67ff9d6248edb70620.JPGDSC_0059.thumb.JPG.fc9447ac0916aef43970ae88a956b57c.JPG

The gunports have also been framed.  Next are a few views of the waterline...

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Below, the hull sitting in my waterline template...

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planking between the wales is next.  while waiting for some additional swiss pear, work was started on the forward 2 bulkheads.  

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Planking between the wales now complete (glad to be done with all the complex curves at the bow!).  Instructions call for completion of the remaining decks before placing the fore and aft side patterns.  This would require placing the lower deck gun carriages without the guns.  As I want to rig these guns with at least the breech tackle, some changes in the order of construction will needed.  First, I decided to plank the spaces between the gunports so these areas could be sanded and finished prior to gun placement.  This would require the wale that runs above the gunports to be laid down first.  As this wale runs the length of the ship, the part of the wale that would be fixed to the side patterns was left unglued  (second pic, arrow).  Also, the instructions call for the wales (lower 2 are 1x5 and the upper one is 1x4)to be glued onto the second layer of planking.  I felt that doing it this way this would make it difficult to exactly match the run of the planks already placed.  Thus, two 1 mm planks were glued together to form the wale and this was then  placed onto the model with spacers to maintain the correct distance from between the wales (first pic, arrow).  the lower wales were made in the same way.

 

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After the planks were place between the ports, the port lids would have to be redone as those supplied with the kit were dibetou wood and this looked quite wrong against the swiss pear.  As the photo below shows, the new port lid was made from 3 planks of swiss pear made to follow the run of the hull planks.

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As the supplied port lids were all cut to match their respective ports, rather than waste them, they were trimmed  a bit and used to make the inner layer of the port lid (illustrated in to photo below.

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The hinges will be added at a later time.  Next step will be to place the lower deck guns with the breeching tackle then construct the deck above.

 

 

jeff

 

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On 11/12/2017 at 9:10 AM, xodar461 said:

After the frames have been attached, the first deck to place is the orlop.  Although the manual shows this as 1 piece, the kit splits the deck down the middle for 2 pieces - much easier to fit this way.  The deck is planked off the model and then glued onto the frames.  The hatch coamings and gratings are then fitted.  As others have pointed out, the gratings are photo-etched brass and not wood.  One problem with replacing them with wood is that the grating openings may not be to scale - often they are too big.  As this deck is deep within the ship, it won't be too visible anyway so I'll decide later if I want to change out to wood for the upper decks.  here are pics of the deck pre and post application of satin poly.  I think the gratings are acceptable.

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Also note that I have decided to not use treenails to the deck.  At this scale they would be barely visible anyway.

 

Hi Jeff,

my name is Paolo first of all thank you for this blog, your model looks very good. i just start mine and it is my first model at this difficult level. hopping for the best. i will definitely use your building log as guide if you dont mind.

can i ask you if you have a specific rule on how long you cut the planks for the deck?

thank you and again compliment

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Hi Paolo
 

Thanks for following my log.  I am not a very speedy builder as you can see from where I am in this build.  Re: the deck plank lengths, I started with  a full sized length of 24 FT which is ~ 4.5 inches at a scale of 1:64.  I think I decided on 4 inch planks for the model.  To make it easy, I would recommend a plank length of 10 cm.  This would also make it easy to shift the planks 2.5 cm with each successive plank so joints on the same "beam" would be separated by 3 planks.  Feel free to ask any questions along the way.

 

hope this helps

 

Jeff

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Gunports are now complete except for the application of stain and hardware.  DSC_0001.thumb.JPG.4222765c1f80bcb37742df5bb7d45476.JPGDSC_0004.thumb.JPG.5e0af6b8c84754f8988793e75f280c18.JPG

The lower deck gun are now in place with the breeching tackle.  In order to get a secure bond, some spare wood was glued to the bottom of each carriage so as to create a larger surface area than just the 4 wheels for the glue.  Kit instructions call for just the carriage to be placed with the guns going on later.  With the guns in place now, I don't want to accidently dislodge them.  They are all pretty solidly in place.

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I decided to leave the cannons as supplied (bronze) rather than paint them black.  Cannons of this age were made of bronze or iron.  Also, they are getting a little patina as can be seen below.  Makes things a bit more interesting I think.

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Last item to add to the lower deck are the gratings.  In doing some preliminary work with placement of the upper deck, I found that the cannons seemed to be a bit low, even when accounting for the deck planking.  this can be seen with some of the pictures of the model on the box.  some spare wood 1 x 4 mm was added to the top of the beams and problem solved,  However, I also encountered this with the forward side pattern.

 

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once again another port slightly off.  This gun also sits quite low on the box top photos.  I plan to cut out the penciled area and fill in the same amount at the top.  This will not have any overall effect on this part of the hull.  For now, next up is lower deck gratings and upper deck placement and planking

 

Jeff

 

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15 hours ago, xodar461 said:

Hi Paolo
 

Thanks for following my log.  I am not a very speedy builder as you can see from where I am in this build.  Re: the deck plank lengths, I started with  a full sized length of 24 FT which is ~ 4.5 inches at a scale of 1:64.  I think I decided on 4 inch planks for the model.  To make it easy, I would recommend a plank length of 10 cm.  This would also make it easy to shift the planks 2.5 cm with each successive plank so joints on the same "beam" would be separated by 3 planks.  Feel free to ask any questions along the way.

 

hope this helps

 

Jeff

it help a lot Jeff thank you so much. i will start the planking to night  australia time.

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Just noticed your log, hope you don't mind if I pull up a chair and follow, i'll sit quietly at the back.

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