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Przepraszam za słaby angielski

 

Vasa DeAgostini, skala 1:65, wydanie polskie.

 

Obecnie pracuję nad etapem 50 - 55 kolekcji.

 

Kilka zdjęć z historii budowy modelu.

 

 

 

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

W BUDOWIE

Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

W BUDOWIE

Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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On ‎09‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 2:20 PM, coxswain said:

Well, at least pictures don't need to be translated! ;)   Excellent planking job!!

Agreed, top class planking.

Paul

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Well, at least pictures don't need to be translated! ;)   Excellent planking job!!

 

 

BTW  Mates in case you did not know---- or into any other language for that matter for which Google has available

 

 

Cheers,

 

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Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Witaj! Ta strona wymaga ogłoszenia w języku angielskim. Nie musisz się martwić, że język jest idealny. Tłumacz internetowy wykona to zadanie w odpowiedni sposób.

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

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Chris,

 

Well said - nice feature as well

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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I finished laying the second layer of the plating. It's been over a year of work.

 

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

W BUDOWIE

Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

Mój blog Soleil Royal (Polska)http://www.blogsoleilroyal.deagostini.pl/                             

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

W BUDOWIE

Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

W BUDOWIE

Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

Mój blog Soleil Royal (Polska)http://www.blogsoleilroyal.deagostini.pl/                             

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

W BUDOWIE

Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

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Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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my translator is on automatic.......no worries  ;)     wonderful job thus far! 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Hello Dziadek4444,

 

You are building a very good D'Agostini model of the Vasa.  All of the work is truly excellent - particularly the first planking, in preparation of the second planking and your crisp cutting to the outer borders of the ship, above the waterline.  Surface prep, for preliminary finish/sealer looks great!  All of this looks like it will shape up to a tremendously successful model - because you have clear talent and precision in your execution.

 

Forgive me, in advance, because I will take exception with one aspect of your build that I frequently see in kit builds, and it just bothers me.  Often, the builder is extremely meticulous in their execution, and the work done is beyond reproach.  However, in an effort to make plywood keels and stems look more harmonious, builders sometimes choose to continue the plank seams from the hull, into the stem.  I love what you are doing with this model, but this particular aspect of it is completely wrong - and more importantly - it detracts from all of the other excellent work you have done, so far.

 

Think of it this way; a keel is, literally, the backbone of a wooden ship; it must be strong, in order to withstand the tremendous wracking forces at work, upon it, all of the time.  That strength is a result, at least in part, of dimensional girth, and mechanical joinery; a keel is always scarfed at appropriate intervals and lengths, according the the length and breadth of the vessel.

 

The cut-water, or stem, is no different.  The stem requires compass-cut timber, at appropriate scantlings, that are joined with bolstering scarfs, at the right locations, in order to solidify the entire bow structure, which receives the full brunt of whatever seaways through which it passes.

 

Even if one doesn't wish to build a completely authentic model of whatever the subject may be, there usually exist a plethora of documented examples, of similar types, that show exactly what the stem-head of the ship was constructed of.  The Vasa is a prime example, of course, because the ship survives, intact.

 

You are making an excellent model of this great ship.  Please go the extra mile and correct this.

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We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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Witaj Hubaca Historyk
Masz rację, oczywiście, i wiem, jak zbudować kil. W tym przypadku jednak jestem trochę bezradny, ponieważ zobowiązałem się do zbudowania modelu ściśle według instrukcji DeAgostiniego. Dlatego waloryzacja historyczna lub estetyczna nie jest możliwa.
Dziękuję za uznanie za moją pracę i dobrą radę. Muszę jednak budować zgodnie z przyjętym zobowiązaniem.

pozdrowienia

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HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

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Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

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Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

Mój blog Soleil Royal (Polska)http://www.blogsoleilroyal.deagostini.pl/                             

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Sorry guys, let me jump in with Polish here.

@Hubac's Historian i checked the instructions, and indeed they tell you to do the planking on the whole keel, stem and sternpost

 

Witaj @dziadek4444,

 

Przede wszystkim powiem, że wspaniała robota to plankowanie, naprawde kunszt :)

 

W instrukcjach DeAgostini, zeszyt numer 4. elementy numer 81-84, od strony 240 i potem dalej zeszyt 6 od strony 280 punkt 4 do 9.

Jest to ewidentny błąd w instrukcjach, jeśli by ci się udało w jakiś sposób usunąć to plankowanie i spróbować nakleić przynajmniej na dziobie i rufie pojedynczy płat drewna, to byłoby to chyba wykonalne ?

 

Ewentualnie w Marketach budowlanych są dostępne pasty do zaklejania dziur w drewnie (trociny drobne lub miał drewniany wymieszane z klejem lub żywicą) to możnaby tym zamalować i potem przeszlifować żeby sprawiało wrażenie jednolitego kawałka drewna.

Jacek

 

Current Build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models 1/64 

On Hold/Parallel: Lady Nelson - Amati/Victory Models 1/64

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jasseji said:

Sorry guys, let me jump in with Polish here.

@Hubac's Historian i checked the instructions, and indeed they tell you to do the planking on the whole keel, stem and sternpost

Then the instructions are totally wrong about this point.

Hubac's Historian is right. It is indeed advisable to correct this error.

 

Ps 

Otherwise very nicely done.

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

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42 minutes ago, Backer said:

Then the instructions are totally wrong about this point.

Hubac's Historian is right. It is indeed advisable to correct this error.

 

Ps 

Otherwise very nicely done.

yes, indeed they are, you can check the Plans Online:

https://www.model-space.com/gb/build-the-vasa.html

 

Part 6, Page 280

 

 

Jacek

 

Current Build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models 1/64 

On Hold/Parallel: Lady Nelson - Amati/Victory Models 1/64

 

 

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Macie Koledzy obydwaj rację !!!

 

Robię model dla polskiego wydania kolekcji De Agostini. Zobowiązałem się go zrobić dokładnie według instrukcji zawartej w zeszytach. W moim wypadku sprawa polega na dowodzie, że ten model da się zbudować w oparciu o zeszyty De Agostini. 

 

Na tej samej zasadzie powinienem wykonać schodnię wbrew sztuce: https://www.model-space.com/gb/build-the-vasa.html#build

Część 9, str. 419

 

Buduję według instrukcji natomiast na polskim blogu podpowiadam modelarzom jak poprawnie elementy te powinny faktycznie być zwaloryzowane.

 

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Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

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Tłumaczenia językowe są okropne!!!

MAREK

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

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Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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8 minutes ago, dziadek4444 said:

Tłumaczenia językowe są okropne!!!

Tak, faktycznie, to stanowi problem (chodzi o budowę według instrukcji oraz o tłumaczenia - jakby co to służę pomocą przynajmniej w tłumaczeniach)

 

Back to English:

dziadek4444 is building it for the Polish deAgostini Catalogue and has to follow the instructions as stated

Jacek

 

Current Build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models 1/64 

On Hold/Parallel: Lady Nelson - Amati/Victory Models 1/64

 

 

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this is a detail that is prevalent on most,  if not all sailing vessels.   it's too bad that DeAgostini got this wrong.  it will take some doing to remove the offending planking......wetting it down with alcohol or water may help.  looking in other logs here on the site,  I'm sure you can see where the seams for the keel parts are,  and can be indented and drawn on with pencil.  it's not a hard repair,  but it can get tricky.  one shouldn't feel to badly about this.......positively sure your not the forst who has been duped by incorrect plans  ;)    she's a beautiful hull.......you've done well thus far :) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Hello Dziadek,

 

I meant no dis-respect, and I can understand your faithfully following through with what you have commited to.

 

Thank you for that link to the Modelbeau website, Jasseji.  I was unable to open the instruction guide on my phone because I’m in an area with poor reception.  Nevertheless, I believe what you are both saying about the kit instructions is true. It is just puzzling as to why, considering the lengths D’Agostini went to to produce an, otherwise, authentic model.

 

The only possibility I can think of that makes any kind of sense to me  is that, after planking over the stem, one could then veneer over that with an assembly of stem timbers, so that the hull planking appears to neatly tuck into the stem rabbet.  This possibility, however, would not provide a similarly neat resolution of where the hull planking meets the stern post; the veneered-over stern post would step down to the planking in this area.  Anyway, it is a strange feature of the kit.

 

I was able to watch the videos, though, and I am impressed by the amount of internal structure that they designed into the model.  The laser-cut parts appear to tuck neatly into place without a lot of fiddling - so long as you have squared your construction, along the way.

We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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reading your post Jacek.............your kidding.....right?!?!?!  he can't change this?........even if it's wrong?

 

*******mental note:   if I ever buy this kit.........make this change in the assembly ;) *********

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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39 minutes ago, dziadek4444 said:

Tłumaczenia językowe są okropne!!!

Tłumaczenia językowe są okropne!!!   = Language translations are terrible !!!

Yep, Google translate is useful. But indeed, it sometimes makes strange misspellings

 

You Colleagues are both right !!!  Thanks (dziękuję)

 

I'm doing a model for the Polish edition of the De Agostini collection. I undertook to do it exactly according to the instructions contained in the notebooks. In my case, the case is based on the proof that this model can be built based on De Agostini notebooks.

Bad research from De Agostini :default_wallbash:

 

I build according to instructions, but on the Polish blog I suggest modelers how correctly these elements should actually be valorized.

Great work !!

 

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

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I had also noticed your keel planking. Your response is indeed interesting. 

 

In April 018 I visited the Vaset Museum. I also was lucky enough to spend a very informative hour with Dr. Fred Hocker (he also builds models). He also prefers to be called Fred. Super nice person. He showed me parts of the museum’s research area, we then sat and spoke about several subjects.

 

One of which was the DeAgostini Vasa, a project that he is very involved with. He noted that, for example, the upper and lower hull gun ports are slightly miss-located. This was a cost savings compromise for a mass produced kit. Some of the inner vertical frame locations resulted in some ports having openings that are not aligned as the 1:1. This (miss-alignment) has been discussed by other builders as well.

 

The keel planking was not discussed however. So it is indeed surprising that something (simple) such as this would not be. at least, drawn correctly on the instructions, and that it would be possibly missed by Fred. It is a part of any kit’s build that can so easily be correctly overlaid from most kit supplied single ply-board pieces.

 

That said, you might later indeed regret not re-doing the keel planks IMO. This kit is otherwise arguably the best Vasa available. And your build is certainly excellent indeed.

 

Regards,

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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MAREK

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

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Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

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Coming back to the discussion about the keel boards, look at the deck of Vasa DeAgostini !!!

 

This is the rudder blade - a catastrophe!

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MAREK

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HMS Victory - DeAgostini         http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=736&start=152

Sovereign of the Seas - DeAgostini        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=803&start=176

HMS Bounty - Del Prado      http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1252&start=104

Swift, 1805 -    Artesania Latina       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1841&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

Vasa - DeAgostini       http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1892&start=64 

Endeavour kapitana Cook'a - Eaglemoss        http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=1868&start=80

 

 Mój blog Vasa DeAgostini Poland      http://blog.kolekcjavasa.pl/

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Soleil Royal - DeAgostini -  http://santisimatrinidad.jun.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2527      

 

Mój blog Soleil Royal (Polska)http://www.blogsoleilroyal.deagostini.pl/                             

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This is how I made the rudder. I guess the original is more elaborate, but it's better than what DeAgostini wants you to do.

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The deck. On the original almost no planks have the same width due to different nationalities working with different measurements. I did four butt shift

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No where near the original but better than DeAgostini...

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And here is the big problem. Theres almost no space to work on trying to do a good keel planking. This is my third attempt under way before she went in the closet waiting until all shipments have arrived.

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I found the thin strips easy to peel off and easy to sand off, so when  you have taken the pictures for your blog you could always replank the keel and rudder... ;)

 

You are doing a great job, and I wish I could do the painting you do.. I am way behind on that. Being colorblind takes away the fun in painting hundreds of figures... :D

Mr. Pucko

 

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Royal Caroline - Panart

Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre

Bounty - Occre

Titanic - Amati

Endeavour - AL

Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre

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