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23 minutes ago, Rick01 said:

Will this be available in Australia and if so who will be carrying it?

 

Rick

Of course.
In Australia, we have an official sales representative who has been selling our kits for a year.

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1 hour ago, greenstone said:

In Australia, we have an official sales representative who has been selling our kits for a year.

How/who do I contact when this model becomes available locally?

 

Rick

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1 hour ago, Rick01 said:

How/who do I contact when this model becomes available locally?

 

Rick

 

Our distributor in Australia:

Darya Churilina
124 Hubert st.
Lilyfield, NSW 2040
Australia

darya.projects@gmail.com

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On 12/30/2018 at 11:46 AM, greenstone said:

Yes, it will be with english text instruction, photo instruction and drawing

And the parts list? I'm experiencing some difficulty in finding the parts in the box and plastic while working on the Polotsk

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I was looking through this log  and  I dont know whether I dare make a suggestion or two  to possibly improve these great kits ?:piratetongueor4:

 

 (I havent seen my ordered Phoenix kit yet so i dont know if these will actually be a problem there.  So I may be just a leeeeeettttllle bit premature !!)

 

 But in your ( wonderful) documentation and some builds  I noticed some small possible problem areas

 

First I noticed in this build log that the grain of the adjacent planks  in the second planking is noticeable "repetitive" especially at the  bow - presumably because they are cut close together from the same sheet.

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Could I suggest that a different layout on the planking sheets might reduce the grain issue .

Possibly if the planks were not laid out  in such strict order  or the planks were  turned stem to stern alternately -or even if planks for each side were mixed together  on alternate sheets?

 

Secondly I noticed on a Phoenix build log the premarked deck planking  had the grain of the original sheet very  noticeable. That of course ran right across the decking - was this just one  poor sheet? It would be a shame to mar the lovely deck detail

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Finally the "black wood" seems to have an exceptionally coarse grain with a very uneven surface - it would be nicer if that was closer grained .

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But I am so very eager to get started on Phoenix - in many ways a new way of approaching  builds.

 

Excuse my putting my piece in  - and accept my humble apologies if I am just plain WRONG !!

 

 

 

 

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The grain carrying over from one plank to another is a problem when precutting the planking (laser, CNC).  When we designed our 17th Century Battle Station kits, we made sure to randomize the planking (especially the decking) to get a random look and avoid the grain continuing from one plank to the adjacent ones.  Of course we were only producing 3 kits!  Doing this in a commercial venture is probably not cost effective.

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I may be being quite impractical - but I assumed that the Lasers were working from a CAD digram,

so on these sheets planks.jpg.33862a26c0d977806b36f14edc5bd0f9.jpg

Perhaps it would be possible to do a layout which could randomise things  on and between sheets with a couple of hours work so that no adjacent planks of the model would be adjacent on the sheets. And still fit in the same sheet size.

I cant do it with a photo  but maybe when I get the drawing i could show what I mean  - OR as I said I may be just being  foolish!!

 

But I am still quite impressed by the approach  MK are taking - nice to see a new view on things.

 

Just thought - I presume the strips can only be used one way out ?  Otherwise could you randomise by taking each alternate strip from the other sheet and turning it over !

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Since the laser cut pattern is computer generated and controlled, I would expect that the cut pattern for the port side planking was designed to be the exact mirror image of the starboard.  Since both sides of the blank are usable, you could then switch planks around between the sides to camouflage any grain pattern. 

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That was one of my thoughts Dave. 

But I suspect these guys have other factors as well - I note that they allow for the slight angle on laser cuts in places - I would not be at all surprised if they had cut so that slight angle acted as a chamfer to help close fitting .

 

But  it all seems to come together very well in the builds I have seen - perhaps I am just  being tooooo fussy

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I note that with Master Korabel kits, that the laser cut (which has a slight angle like most laser cuts) is used as part of the design to show the calking as Spyglass points out.  True though that the planking could randomized on the sheet so different grain patterns emerge.. a bit fussy to design and also fussy for the builder to sort out.  

 

The other thing is that the deck furniture will break up much of the grain matches so it won't be apparent.

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I think the Deck is a bigger problem because it will be a single pattern as you can see in the pic - though as you say the deck stuff will hide a great deal. But we shall see  when my eagerly awaited kit arrives.

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16 hours ago, SpyGlass said:

That was one of my thoughts Dave. 

But I suspect these guys have other factors as well - I note that they allow for the slight angle on laser cuts in places - I would not be at all surprised if they had cut so that slight angle acted as a chamfer to help close fitting .

 

But  it all seems to come together very well in the builds I have seen - perhaps I am just  being tooooo fussy

 

Hello, gentlemen!

You are absolutely right. We do that specifically to help close fitting.

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Great videos! Too bad I don't speak Russian. Interested modelers can really see your approach to LOTS of hull frames and assemblies that lock up very tight and precise. Thanks for sharing!

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9 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

Great videos! Too bad I don't speak Russian. Interested modelers can really see your approach to LOTS of hull frames and assemblies that lock up very tight and precise. Thanks for sharing!

I believe there are plans to add subtitles to these videos.

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6 hours ago, ccoyle said:

Great videos! Too bad I don't speak Russian. Interested modelers can really see your approach to LOTS of hull frames and assemblies that lock up very tight and precise. Thanks for sharing!

 

 

Gentlemen!

There are subtitles in Youtube and their translation into any language, including English

 

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Yes, I also make use of it. It helps, it's better than nothing. But the translation often make no sense. The machine translates literally. And that is not always the right way. For example: "I do not he can not be" what does that mean? It makes no sense!  Still, as I said, it's better than nothing or Russian (no offence meant ;) )

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15 hours ago, Dutchman said:

Yes, I also make use of it. It helps, it's better than nothing. But the translation often make no sense. The machine translates literally. And that is not always the right way. For example: "I do not he can not be" what does that mean? It makes no sense!  Still, as I said, it's better than nothing or Russian (no offence meant ;) )

Tender Avos review video now has proper English subtitles without funny nonsense like "I do not hesitate can not be". Eventually more Vikulaev's videos will have subtitles.

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fixed last name

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The second Avos video now also has subtitles.

 

I'm wondering if there are any other Vikulaev's videos that people want subtitles for.

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15 minutes ago, vossiewulf said:

He said, tapping his foot impatiently.

Ahh - but which foot? One of them is an "Otto Bock" basic type. 😉

 

Rick 

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