marktiedens Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share #181 Posted September 21, 2018 Thanks Mr Pucko & also for the likes. My work has slowed also - been dealing with some issues with my 95 year old mother Mark fmodajr 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted September 21, 2018 Share #182 Posted September 21, 2018 Ah 😟, My issues are also with my mother... Although she's "only" 82 I had to get her to a resting home since she had some sort of a breakdown. (hearing and seeing things) One is never prepared even though you know they are old... marktiedens 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share #183 Posted September 30, 2018 Hi everyone - a little more progress. After finishing up the chainplates,I got to work on the hammock cranes. The kit did not provide them as ready made pieces,so I had to make them from the brass wire provided. They were made by bending with some round & needle nose pliers. Then a hole was drilled in the center for the mounting pins - that was fun trying to drill a hole in a .8mm wire! They were then painted flat black & mounted according to the plans. Finally,some Syren rope was added. They are pretty fragile,so I hope I don`t knock them askew while rigging. Finally, the mounts for the falconets were glued in place - they were provided as photo-etched pieces which I had to bend into shape.The falconets won`t be added until later - the rigging tends to snag them & knock them loose. Mark Ferit, Altduck, rafine and 9 others 12 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted September 30, 2018 Share #184 Posted September 30, 2018 Mark, She's turning into a superb build. I don't remember if you mentioned this either way -- do you intend to add sails or just standing rigging? Regards, Old Collingwood and marktiedens 2 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share #185 Posted September 30, 2018 Thanks Michael - pre-made sails are provided in the kit,so it will have sails. Mark md1400cs, tarbrush, JpR62 and 4 others 7 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted September 30, 2018 Share #186 Posted September 30, 2018 Hi Mark, Yikes! How did you drill thru that wire? The hammock cranes look real nice. Do you plan to install any hammocks in the holders? The model is looking terrific! Nice Job. Frank marktiedens and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share #187 Posted September 30, 2018 Thanks Frank - I just filed a small flat spot on the wire & drilled with a very small bit(Nr. 74). Needless to say, I ruined 4 of them when the bit went off center. They are pretty fragile even after being glued down,so I need to be careful when handling the ship. No netting or hammocks will be added - I`m not even sure if the hammock cranes were used on Spanish ships. Just a little disappointed they didn`t have them as PE - it would have been very little trouble & almost no extra cost to add them to the sheet of PE that was in the kit. Mark fmodajr and Old Collingwood 2 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 1, 2018 Share #188 Posted October 1, 2018 Great work and the colors look fantastic. OC. md1400cs, marktiedens and tarbrush 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share #189 Posted October 1, 2018 Thanks O.C. - I also like the colors on your Warspite. Mark Old Collingwood 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 1, 2018 Share #190 Posted October 1, 2018 17 hours ago, marktiedens said: Thanks O.C. - I also like the colors on your Warspite. Mark Thanks mark. OC. marktiedens 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share #191 Posted October 3, 2018 Hi - the next order of business is the stern lantern & anchors. The lantern is provided in machined brass for the top & bottom,PE for the windows,& a couple of laser cut wood pieces for spacers. The assembly was pretty straight forward - after bending the window section into six sides the parts were just glued one on top of the other. It was then painted yellow ochre & the windows were filled with micro kristal klear window maker. Clear acetate was provided for the "glass", but it was near impossible to glue inside the framework without smears. Next came the anchors - the stocks were shaped from a piece of 6x6mm strip from the kit & a groove was cut around them to indicate 2 pieces. they were then stained with a walnut stain & the bindings were done with black heat shrink tubing. The rings were wrapped with black thread. One anchor is slightly shorter - while drilling the holes larger for the rings I broke the top off of one of them,so I drilled a new hole slightly below the original one. Then I had to file off the square base where the stock sits against & made a new base from some 5x5 walnut. The anchors & lantern will be fitted later after most of the rigging is done. That pretty much finishes up the hull - now on to the masts! Mark Tom E, ccoyle, zappto and 8 others 11 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted October 4, 2018 Share #192 Posted October 4, 2018 Nice!!! zappto, marktiedens and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share #193 Posted October 4, 2018 Thanks! Mark Old Collingwood 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappto Posted October 4, 2018 Share #194 Posted October 4, 2018 Looks majestic ship, all collors just shine! Mast will be pleasure work after all hull. marktiedens and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share #195 Posted October 4, 2018 Thanks zappto - will be good to be making sawdust again. Not very good at doing metal work. Mark Old Collingwood 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share #196 Posted October 6, 2018 Update - the bowsprit is now done. The kit supplied dowels were tapered using a small plane & lots of sanding,then a walnut stain was applied. A flat spot was filed for the knee holding the flagstaff & was glued in place. A couple of spacers were made for the jib boom & some "iron" straps made from black card - the kit showed the straps made from brass strip,but I couldn`t get them bent just right ,so I just used the black paper. The forward area was painted black according to the construction photos - I would normally not paint this area,but the plywood knee looked awful & I didn`t feel like making a new one. Rope wooldings were then added using black .5mm thread. Just one odd thing - the stem has 2 gammoning holes,but the construction pictures only show one rope,so I added a second set of cleats to the bowsprit & will use 2 ropes. I thought about opening up the slots in the stem,but it would have made for a slot 14mm long - too long for just one rope. All rigging blocks will be added later after all masts are built. Mark Old Collingwood, rafine, md1400cs and 7 others 10 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted October 7, 2018 Share #197 Posted October 7, 2018 Looking real nice Mark!! Frank Old Collingwood and marktiedens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share #198 Posted October 8, 2018 Thanks Frank. Mark Old Collingwood 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share #199 Posted October 10, 2018 Hi everyone - after making all the parts of the mizzen mast I thought I would look through the rigging plans..... Maybe I should have looked at them sooner - they are so small I am having a hard time figuring out which line goes where. I am really close to putting in some 6 inch stub masts & calling it done!!!. Some of the lines obviously go to wrong places & there are some blocks on the deck that are shown on the belaying plan,but there are no lines going to them. Very frustrated at the moment!!! Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted October 10, 2018 Share #200 Posted October 10, 2018 Well, we could try and figure it out together since I also have the plans.... Tell me what lines etc you are working with and I'll see if my tired brain could be of any help... marktiedens 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share #201 Posted October 10, 2018 ok - here we go. The mast plans show 2 sheaves at the bottom of each topmast. The rigging plans seem to show ropes through the sheaves - After looking through the rigging plans again,I think they may be for the top ropes(lifting ropes). What do you think? Here`s another - the plans show 2 cleats & 4 double blocks on the deck next to the grating on the quarter deck,but they are not shown on the belaying plan. One more - the plans also show 4 blocks around the foremast,but the belaying plan doesn`t show any lines going to them. Also,the rigging plans show the mizzen topmast stay going down to 406 on the deck,but the belaying plan shows it belayed to the pinrail in FRONT of the mainmast instead of behind it - this can`t be right. On the above picture front is to the left. Any opinions are most welcome! Mark Zapto 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted October 10, 2018 Share #202 Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Last first: Line 406 should go to one of the 431 belaying points. lifting ropes: On page E in the booklet the lifting ropes (410-416) go straight down to the blocks behind the mainmast (i hope it is the main mast) so these blocks will be belaying points 410-416 and 411-413... Line 414 should be belayed to block closest to deck. The same should work for the fore mast. The cleats I do not know why they are there (yet)... Hope you understand me... Edited October 10, 2018 by puckotred Old Collingwood and marktiedens 2 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share #203 Posted October 10, 2018 I agree with the location of line 406 - makes much more sense. I understand what you are saying about the other lines. Its just that 410,413,416 are not shown on the belaying plan - most likely are the blocks behind the fore & main masts. It also doesn`t help that all the descriptions in the rigging plans are only in Spanish. I did find a conversion of nautical terms from Spanish to English,but half of the terms in the plans were not listed in the conversion chart. Thanks for the help Mr Pucko - much appreciated. Now,if we can just figure out what those 2 cleats are for............. Mark puckotred 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted October 10, 2018 Share #204 Posted October 10, 2018 Or is 411 the lifting ropes for the topmast??? And 410-416 for the main spar? I have to check this again tomorrow, now is bedtime... marktiedens 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share #205 Posted October 10, 2018 Looks to me like they mis-marked 411. page E shows it for both the mizzen & fore or main masts. I think 411 is only for the mizzen. The "other" 411 should have a different number - maybe one of the numbers that are missing from the belaying plan. Just wish I knew Spanish - the lines are described at the bottom of the page in Spanish only. I`m pretty sure 411 is the lifting rope for the mizzen topmast. Now I am thinking that with 2 sheaves in the topmast,there should be 2 lifting ropes??? Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted October 11, 2018 Share #206 Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) I worked on the "Gotheborg" and lowered all the top masts but was up in the masts and not on deck so I missed where the belaying points where... Can't remember if there was one or two lines on the lift, but since there are two sheaves it seems logic that there would be two ropes as well... Could 411 be for the foremast and 413 be for the main mast? 410 and 416 for fore and main yard? 416 is described as "Driza verga mayor". Spanish "Driza" is Halliard so it would go to the yard... "main yard halliard" Found this pic that shows the blocks for the lift. Edited October 11, 2018 by puckotred spelling JpR62 and marktiedens 2 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share #207 Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) We`re getting closer.......................... Edited October 11, 2018 by marktiedens puckotred 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckotred Posted October 11, 2018 Share #208 Posted October 11, 2018 well, you are. I'm still planking the hull... 😁 marktiedens 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted October 12, 2018 Share #209 Posted October 12, 2018 Mark, I feel your pain your rigging dilemmas reminds me of the one I just finished. As they say. "it all works out in the end" .... PS: The running rigging is even more fun - but as a veteran builder I assume that you have been there before. Cheers. marktiedens 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share #210 Posted October 12, 2018 Yes,I was in a bad mood when I was looking through the rigging diagrams(my power was off for several hours). Slowly figuring it out. It`s just that the diagrams are really small & hard to pick out the details. That seems a little odd since the plans for the hull & masts are full size. They could have made them larger for no more cost than larger sheets of paper. Mark puckotred 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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