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G’day. I’m a new member, so this will be my first build log. I’ve been trying to decide whether to commit to a log, as there are already finished logs of the same kit here, but I’ll do this for a couple of reasons:

1: To possibly aid newcomers overcome self-doubt in starting a kit.

2: To force myself to pay more attention to my own processes, because I find myself looking at details of kits I’ve completed and wonder “How the hell did I do that bit?”

3: To benefit from other member’s advice and thereby improve my own skills. 

 

I’ll try to detail the planking process because I think it’s the bit that worries new builders. And I won’t try to hide my shoddy workmanship.

 

Feel free to pull up a pew. But grab a cushion, this may take a while. 

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

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Corel HMS Victory

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The wood- First thing that struck me when I opened the kit was the amount of sawdust. Because these kits are CNC-cut (Computer Numeric Controlled 3-axis lathe) and not laser-cut, the wood is machined and not burnt, so sawdust is simply a byproduct of the process, not dodgy quality control. I figure I’ll make plenty more sawdust anyway. The gaps in the smaller cuttings are filled with tightly compressed sawdust. I’ll keep it all there until I cut out the piece to prevent breakage. 

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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The fittings- All individually bagged photo-etched brass and tin cast. All look complete, at this stage. (I’ve registered my kit with the manufacturer, so I’m not worried about problems I may find later.) Most have burrs, flashing and cast marks, but a run-around with a file will clean them right up. 

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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The plans- They look fine to me. This is a new experience for me; English as the manufacturer’s first language! Nothing too daunting. We’ll see their quality (or otherwise) as we build...A thin booklet, but it contains a comprehensive parts list, including part/number locator diagrams. 

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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There are a few sheets of ply with damaged and missing layers, but they’re all in the side that gets discarded, anyway. The false keel and one sheet of bulkheads have a slight warp, but I’ll try to flatten them before I begin.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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We’ll see what the warps look like tomorrow. It was 37deg C today. (99deg F.) They should dry out nicely.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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G'day Jobbie. I'm quite surprised that Caldercraft haven't shifted to laser-cutting the parts instead of CNC milling. It's a bit "old school" IMO.

 

Looking forward to following this build :).

 

Danny

Cheers, Danny

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Current Build :    Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues

Build Logs :   Norfolk Sloop  HMS Vulture - (TFFM)  HMS Vulture Cross-section  18 foot Cutter    Concord Stagecoach   18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE 

CARD Model Build Logs :   Mosel   Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen)   WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski)  Rolls Royce Merlin Engine  Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV)       Stug 40 (Halinski)    Yamaha MT-01   Yamaha YA-1  HMS Hood (Halinski)  Bismarck (GPM)  IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski)   HMVS Cerberus   Mi24D Hind (Halinski)  Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (ModelikTanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik)  Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik)  Peterbuilt Semi Trailer  Fender Guitar  

Restorations for Others :  King of the Mississippi  HMS Victory
Gallery : Norfolk Sloop,   HMAT Supply,   HMS Bounty,   HMS Victory,   Charles W. Morgan,   18' Cutter for HMS Vulture,   HMS Vulture,  HMS Vulture Cross-section,             18th Century Longboat in a Bottle 

Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi

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I can’t see one method being more accurate than the other, but at least there’s no unsightly burn marks. 

Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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1 hour ago, kopeikin said:

Oops. This looks scary. I am currently trying to straighten a keel of Mamoli 1:90 Victory which initially had just a slight bend. I am afraid to tell that after a week of fooling around with it by soaking it in water, drying it under weights, ironing it with dress iron, drying and ironing again and again, I got it looking worse or may be no better than when I started. I regret I started this process. May be I still will be able to use this part but in any case it became about 0.5 mm thicker than other keel parts which I still have to cope with. Sorry to intrude with my own pictures. This is item 19 I tried to straighten. Burn marks are from ironing.

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Don’t apologise for intruding, Kopeikin, I appreciate the input. I haven’t had to try to straighten a keel before, so I’m as nervous as you are!

Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

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Corel HMS Victory

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Phew! No longer bowed. I guess if you avoid applying too much heat too quickly, and let the wood dry naturally, you can avoid further distortion. Now... on to test-fitting the frame.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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Cutting away the parts from their boards, leaving some fudge factor and filing back down ‘til smooth. Just like plastic modeling.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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9 hours ago, Jobbie said:

I can’t see one method being more accurate than the other, but at least there’s no unsightly burn marks. 

Maybe you haven't seen what they do with lasers lately ;). A good quality laser can cut (or burn) without any serious charring, like the bulkheads on my latest Card model :

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And I seriously doubt a CNC mill would be able to cut these 2.0mm diameter handwheels. The "missing" quarters are supposed to be like that :

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Danny

Cheers, Danny

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Current Build :    Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues

Build Logs :   Norfolk Sloop  HMS Vulture - (TFFM)  HMS Vulture Cross-section  18 foot Cutter    Concord Stagecoach   18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE 

CARD Model Build Logs :   Mosel   Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen)   WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski)  Rolls Royce Merlin Engine  Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV)       Stug 40 (Halinski)    Yamaha MT-01   Yamaha YA-1  HMS Hood (Halinski)  Bismarck (GPM)  IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski)   HMVS Cerberus   Mi24D Hind (Halinski)  Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (ModelikTanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik)  Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik)  Peterbuilt Semi Trailer  Fender Guitar  

Restorations for Others :  King of the Mississippi  HMS Victory
Gallery : Norfolk Sloop,   HMAT Supply,   HMS Bounty,   HMS Victory,   Charles W. Morgan,   18' Cutter for HMS Vulture,   HMS Vulture,  HMS Vulture Cross-section,             18th Century Longboat in a Bottle 

Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi

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I am very impressed with this kit, though! Without any shims, filing or heartache, all the bulkheads are literally snapping into place on the false keel with absolutely no height adjustment necessary and no wobbling. I haven’t had a kit do that with such accuracy before! I don’t believe I’ll need to use Lego bricks as 90 degree set squares when I glue them together. 

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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With the stem bulkheads in place, I’m marking the false keel where they sit. I’ve drawn the line to the lowest point on the front face of each bulkhead (because the rear face will be sanded away soon) and simply continue the line to the next bulkhead.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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I plan to gradually taper the keel from the pencil line backwards- to subtract the thickness of the first and second layers of planking on each side. I’d like to not repeat the error I made on my previous builds (showing here), where the planking effectively doubles the keel width. My aim is for the keel stem to end up the same thickness as the rudder. 

 

I haven’t tried this before...What could possibly go wrong! 🤣

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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Good move Jobbie :). For future reference that's called the Bearding Line, and tapering the keel from that line is more or less standard ship-building practise.

 

BTW - the keel tapers both vertically and horizontally, and also does the same at the bow but to a lesser degree. These posts - Stern  Bow - may give you a little bit if insight to keel construction.

 

Danny

Cheers, Danny

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Current Build :    Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues

Build Logs :   Norfolk Sloop  HMS Vulture - (TFFM)  HMS Vulture Cross-section  18 foot Cutter    Concord Stagecoach   18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE 

CARD Model Build Logs :   Mosel   Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen)   WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski)  Rolls Royce Merlin Engine  Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV)       Stug 40 (Halinski)    Yamaha MT-01   Yamaha YA-1  HMS Hood (Halinski)  Bismarck (GPM)  IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski)   HMVS Cerberus   Mi24D Hind (Halinski)  Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (ModelikTanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik)  Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik)  Peterbuilt Semi Trailer  Fender Guitar  

Restorations for Others :  King of the Mississippi  HMS Victory
Gallery : Norfolk Sloop,   HMAT Supply,   HMS Bounty,   HMS Victory,   Charles W. Morgan,   18' Cutter for HMS Vulture,   HMS Vulture,  HMS Vulture Cross-section,             18th Century Longboat in a Bottle 

Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi

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Thinking ahead: I drilled two 4.1mm holes in the false keel, 200mm apart. I’ll epoxy glue two 5/32" nuts in line with them to assist mounting the ship to a baseboard. When completed, I plan to use these mounting holes to screw her via two brass pedestals onto a display base.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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Marking along the keel with a pair of dividers adjusted to the thickness of the first and second layers of planking (2.65mm), I scribed a line along the keel. Then, with an X-acto blade, I removed the first layer of ply to form a rebate.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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Using a 6mm chisel, I’ve tapered from the previously marked bearding line down towards the keel.

The false keel’s width is 5.25mm.

The thickness of two lots of double planking by themselves (representing a first and second layer each side) is 5.26mm.

There’s only so much wood I could remove...

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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Yeah, John, the Fly looks fantastic! I mainly chose this one because it's quite literally the ship that founded my nation. My wife's ancestors were part of the first fleet, but they didn't have a choice. 🤣 

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

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Corel HMS Victory

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Hi Jobbie,

 

Thanks for starting this log. I'm half way through building a Caldercraft kits too. I've brought a cushion for the pew, and look forward to seeing this one come together. Looks like you've made a great start.

 

It's surprising how thin the stern needs to be to accommodate all the planking, isn't it. If you're still wondering how you can get it slightly narrower, one option (an option I've seen others use on this site) is to only take the first planking up to the bearding line... This means the part that reaches the sternpost only needs to be planked once (the second layer of planking) straight onto the keel former. You can see the rabbet at the bearding line for the first planking in the first photo below, and the first planking completed in the second photo.

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I'm sure you'll do a fantastic job regardless. Your previous builds look great!

 

Rob

 

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Ah! Righto. I'll consider doing it that way. Good tip. Ta.

Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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I press-fitted 2x 5/32 nuts for pedestal mounting later. I was going to Araldite them in place, but they’re not going anywhere. I don’t feel the need for a ply sandwich, either. 

 

Also, I’ve taken Rob’s advice to terminate the first planking at the bearding line, so I’ve formed a shallow rebate there.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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Ok, I’ve hit my first snag. As I’ve established the rebate to be the thickness of the first and second planking (2.6mm), the plank termination patterns (2x item 13) are now too large and need to be reduced by 2.6mm. I’ll use a finger plane and take it off the rear face to maintain the leading edge profile.

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Completed:

Billing’s Boats Cutty Sark

Artesania Latina Swift

Aeropicolla HMS Prince

Panart Royal Yacht Caroline 

Current build

Caldercraft HM Brig Supply

Next:

Corel HMS Victory

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