HMS Kingfisher 1770 by Remco - 1/48 - English 14 Gun Sloop - POF

[EdT]

Fantastic work, Remco - as usual, I must say.

 

Ed

[Jim Lad]

Very nice detail, Remco!

 

John

[Rustyj]

Stunning! Well done Remco.

[WackoWolf]

Outstanding detail work. How long did it take you to do all of the pin holes? Keep the pictures coming.Always waiting to see an update of your work.

[michael mott]

Hmmmm,  that bar just keeps getting higher!

 

Michael

[gjdale]

You never cease to amaze me with your detail work Remco! Beautifully done Sir!

[rafine]

Remco, your skill is exceeded only by your commitment to perfection. Simply wonderful.

 

Bob

[Paddy]

Remco, beautiful work!

[SJSoane]

 

Hi Remco,

 

I just saw your posting on Facebook, and noticed your gun barrels. I don't see anything about that on your posting here. They are beautifully detailed; can you show a few images of how you did that? Is each one individually turned, or did you make a master and cast? And how did you create the beautiful engraving on top?

 

Best wishes,

 

Mark

[harvey1847]

WOW!                                                                  143 !

 

One hundred forty three holes... Amazing!!!

 

 

Daniel.

[Michiel]

looks good. not easy to keep the exactness with so many.. its even 143 pairs that's 286 holes.....

Edited November 27, 2013 by Michiel

[Remcohe]

Thanks guys for all the likes and complements!

 

Greg, it's no coincidence, coamings and ledges were fit to the finished grating. I rather see a not so perfectly sized coaming than a mutilated grating to get it fit in a perfect coaming.

 

Joe, I think 45 minutes.

 

Mark, I'll pass the compliments to Greg, the barrels are from admiraltymodels.com the engravings, or Royal Cyphers were a 'wedding gift' from Greg. EU etching produced these but I'm not sure if they are still available. The 'only' thing I added was the vent. 

 

 

 

Daniel, thanks for taking the time to count them, and this is just one of many gratings 

 

Remco

[Piet]

Hey Remco, now that's a real sweet looking battle station bro!

Hmmmm, how many more gratings?  How many more holes for graphite?  Hope you don't get nightmares - - - gratings, gratings, all floating around and around - - - arch - - -   

 

Great work!

 

Cheers,

[Dan Vadas]

Hi Remco,

 

Beautiful work on the guns and carriages - those Admiralty Models barrels are every bit as good as the ones I got for Vulture, only I didn't have to spend much time on detailing mine as the Royal Cypher and Touchole were already cast into them .

 

A word about the way you've rigged the guns (excellent seizings etc BTW) - a gun that is "run out" wouldn't have the side tackles frapped, rather coiled beside the gun ready to fire. The frapped tackles are used when it's in the Stowed position.

 

  Danny

[Remcohe]

Thanks Grant, about 3 on the main deck and a few small ones I think. No nightmares here

Danny, thanks for the compliment and pointing out my error, I made the battle station 3 years ago meanwhile I also learned  I shouldn't portray them run out  

 

Meanwhile knight to C4, bishop to C4, bishop takes knight........ I like Greg's metaphor that scratch building is like playing chess. And I was caught by my opponent. I forgot to cut the mortises in the curved beam and had to do them in situ, little nerve wrecking.....

 

 

So a little mile stone today, I finished all the beams, knees, carlings, ledges, opposing knees ands so on for the lower deck that I want to portray. After sanding the deck it came out really nice. On to the planking of the deck, I'll keep that to a minimum though to show as much of the details as possible. A waterway on both sides and just enough planks to support the bulkheads.

 

 

 

Remco

[dvm27]

Congratulations on completing this important milestone, Remco! She's beautiful.

[rlb]

Congratulations, Remco!   Super job.

 

Ron

[Trussben]

Well done Remco, superb craftsmanship.

 

Ben

[tlevine]

Absolutely beautiful work.  I feel your anxiety of cutting those mortises on the beam arms in situ.  Mine would have probably crashed into the hold.

[Dan Vadas]

I forgot to cut the mortises in the curved beam and had to do them in situ, little nerve wrecking

 

 

Oops   . And yet ..... your's STILL came out better than mine - and I DIDN'T forget to cut them first . Well done.

 

  Danny

[druxey]

Well done, Remco. One can't always anticipate every item ahead of one. We all miss some and then have to work on something that, were we to slip….

[ChrisLBren]

Congrats Remco - looks gorgeous !!!

[Piet]

Hi Remco,

 

Congrats on the completion of the lower deck, everything looks superb!  Nice work on the forgotten mortises, they came out great.

And now onward with the next deck.

 

Cheers,

[Remcohe]

Thanks all for your kind compliments. Much appreciated!

 

I have a question for you shipwrights. I'm wondering how the waterway is tree nailed, would it follow the same principle for tree nailing patterns as regular deck planks or is it different?

 

Remco

 

ps I got the new fiebing's dye, this is certainly different stuff ;-)

[harvey1847]

Hello!

 

I guess that since the water way in a man of war ship is cut back to allow the wheels of the cannons go foreward, the tree nails should go on this "cut back" surface. I guess the surface should be around 45º if not rounded. The amount of treenails, don´t know but I would drill them agains the frames in a 45º position.

 

Here´s a paper of a shipwright from here, he is naval engineer. Maybe it is helful for you or others. This kind of papers you cannot find around bookstores.

 

PONEN_FRANCISCO_FERNANDEZ_GONZALEZ_152p.pdf  (See page #132)

 

Regards,

 

 

Daniel.

Edited December 5, 2013 by harvey1847

[Blue Ensign]

Hi Remco,

 

A word about the way you've rigged the guns (excellent seizings etc BTW) - a gun that is "run out" wouldn't have the side tackles frapped, rather coiled beside the gun ready to fire. The frapped tackles are used when it's in the Stowed position.

 

  Danny

I’m not entirely sure that that is the case. There were different levels of securing the guns, and there would no doubt be differences between the heavy lower deck guns with port lids in place and lighter open deck guns where run out and secured would be an option.

 

This is in fact shown in Seamanship in the age of Sail (John Harland) which includes a chapter on securing the guns. He makes the point that the Upper deck guns were ordinarily secured in the ‘run out’ position and shows the side tackles frapped.

 

On a small vessel like a sixth rate with six pounders, I would suggest that 'run out' with tompions in place would have been logically applicable.

 

B.E.

[Martin W]

Beautiful work, Remco.  I'll have to leave the questions about frapping and treenailing to all those scholars I'm learning from, but I'm sure the discussion will be fruitful.   

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

[albert]

Fantastic work Remco congratulations.

[Dan Vadas]

there would no doubt be differences between the heavy lower deck guns with port lids in place and lighter open deck guns where run out and secured would be an option.

 

 

BE - I agree with that, but the Swans have both open ports and closed ones on the same deck. As there is no way to stow the guns in the "run out" position on the closed ports (it would of course negate the use of port lids) they'd have to be stowed in the "run in" position unless they were stowed in the fore-aft position.

 

TFFM shows them all as stowed in the "run in" position.

 

  Danny

[Blue Ensign]

That’s a given Danny, I was obviously referring to the open ports, which on the model are the ‘show’ ports.

 

The question of 'run in' and secured or secured 'side on' is interesting given the small space on a Swan, particularly in relation to those adjacent to the Galley Stove and those within the partitioned Captains bed space and Coach. The latter is not an issue with Kingfisher and other 14 gunners as the ports did not house a gun.

 

B.E.