NAZGÛL Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share #1201 Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Thanks Mark and Andy! Andy, I used the original kit strips for the deckplanking. I used washes in different nuanses on all planks to make it look vibrant. I just noticed many pictures are gone from the start of the buildlog and that you can't see how I did it. I was afraid to mess with the nice proportions of the BB kit so I did it singleplanked like BB intended. I then stained, painted and weathered it. A tricky paintjob with many stages before I got it like I wanted. This image is from when I started the paintjob on the hull: I've seen people doubleplanking it, and you can get the hullplank curves better that way. I dont know how it would affect the proportions and the stern though. /Matti Edited July 8, 2014 by NAZGÛL Karleop, mtaylor, pete48 and 4 others 7 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 8, 2014 Share #1202 Posted July 8, 2014 looking sweet Matti! NAZGÛL 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltbyguy Posted July 8, 2014 Share #1203 Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks for the information I think I will stick to the single plank for the hull But fit a false ply deck and plank with somethingnot sure what though NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share #1204 Posted July 8, 2014 Ah, you have an older kit without any strips? Mine have planks/strips for the deck. I think the older version didn't. Thank you Pops! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted July 9, 2014 Share #1205 Posted July 9, 2014 Wonderful artistry in your build Matti, always welcome update photos, she looks magnificent. B.E. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share #1206 Posted July 9, 2014 Cheers BE! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJonas Posted July 10, 2014 Share #1207 Posted July 10, 2014 Matti! Everything looks great on your Vasa! I am too lazy to start a blog with all the photographywork, but my Vasa is progressing. Soon finished planking the deck and will start with the hull. I have ordered stains in mahogany, walnut and oak and hope I will get some colours right. But the bottles were ridiculously small, so I will probably have to visit a painting shop. What brand of stain did you use? Herdins bets?? Had a look at the sculptures, and realized painting them will be a challenge. Did you use brushes even for the smallest details? Or have you invented some other tools?? NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share #1208 Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks! It would have been nice to see your progress, especially if you will end up making a combination of BB and Corel parts. Yeah, I used Herdins bets, the same as the modelshop on Sjöhistoriska museet uses. Indeed the figures are a challenge when making a Vasa, at least if painted polychrome. I use small brushes and washes. I also make highlightning effect by painting different shades. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted July 10, 2014 Share #1209 Posted July 10, 2014 Matti, Your blend of subtle mixed shades of wash for your hull, as well as your use of red, along with your hand carved sculptures really make your build special. A pleasure to look at....Your latest photos really captured this (:-) Good luck with the rigging, I know that you are (maybe most of us) not that comfortable entering this stage, as you have mentioned. But it will work out I'm sure. Regards, Michael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share #1210 Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks you Michael! It's a lot to learn for me now when I'm starting the rigging. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share #1211 Posted July 11, 2014 Thanks Lawrence! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJonas Posted July 12, 2014 Share #1212 Posted July 12, 2014 Hej Matti I wonder how much I actually will use from the Corel kit. The plastic sculptures in the BB kit are considerably better made with very good details. The brass sculptures in Corel are very crude with bad details. And painting the plastic seems to be easier as acrylic paint could be used, painting brass seems to be much more complicated. If I had more mahogany or walnut strips, I could do a second layer on the hull, but unfortunately not enough left. We will see whenever I reach the rigging phase, maybe Corel could be of use. At least the colour of the rigging is more accurate rope-like in Corel. In the BB it is very pale and almost white and will have to be stained. Perhaps with a cup of tea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltbyguy Posted July 12, 2014 Share #1213 Posted July 12, 2014 Hi Tom I have the same problem a Billings kit and Coral fittings that was my thought how to paint the "brass" fittings I even soaked them in paint stripper to see if I could get rid of the coating but it didn't touch it Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJonas Posted July 12, 2014 Share #1214 Posted July 12, 2014 maltbyguy! I will not use the brass sculptures but checked on internet how to paint brass. Tamiya Metal Primer seems to be worth a try to get the paint stuck on brass. Several other methods were suggested, most of them with various primers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share #1215 Posted July 13, 2014 I agree about painting brass... The bb sculptures are overall nice and correspond with the real ones better than I thought. Some are based on landstroms design though. A huge advantage is that you can thin them down and reshape them easily. A biggie to get a close fit and get them in scale. Don't use a candle as suggested in the instructions. I used a soldering iron and got great control. The polish nobleman crouching under the catheads is no good in the kit so prepare to scratch them. I stain my ropes with brown acrylic washes. I bought replacement ropes. /Matti Karleop 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share #1216 Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Hey all! I got some work done. I wanted to have one of the gratings covered as a nod to the real one at the museum. I also made the mainsail sheet blocks and after that I could start with the mizzen lanyards. It was very different from what I've done previous in modelbuilding, and I needed to start all over once to get them sitting ok at the top. I know it's far from what you guys manage, but I will knowledge my limits and settle with it. Hopefully I can pick up speed later on cause now it's snail speed. Some pictures: /Matti Edited July 14, 2014 by NAZGÛL themadchemist, Dubz, Vivian Galad and 19 others 22 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivian Galad Posted July 15, 2014 Share #1217 Posted July 15, 2014 Nice progress Matti. Last picture gives a great sense of proportion, so we can imagine how big she was. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Current: Red Dragon (modified) by Vivian Galad - Artesania Latina - 1:60 Oseberg (modified) by Vivian Galad - Amati (1:50)Cocca Veneta by Vivian Galad - Corel - 1:70 Finished 15th Century Latin Caravel kit model from Artimanha models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share #1218 Posted July 15, 2014 Cheers Vivian! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted July 15, 2014 Share #1219 Posted July 15, 2014 havn,t checked your log for a while- wow really coming along nicely. Keith NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted July 15, 2014 Share #1220 Posted July 15, 2014 Matti do you ever get tired of reading all this praise for your build? I hope not, because i'm only going to add to the chorus of praise for the work you have done. She looks superb. In fact I think your ship looks nicer than the one in the museum, it just seems more human. NAZGÛL, fmodajr, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted July 15, 2014 Share #1221 Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) A year ago you started this log with decided to go with the BB kit. It will be out of box, but some changes like open gun ports and some details changed.[\quote] Looking at you r model as it stands now, we have to conclude: yours is not an ordinary OOB, with some details changed. You really succeeded in capturing the ship's heart en soul. One of the best Vasa's I've ever seen. (apart from the real one, that is ) Jan Edited July 15, 2014 by amateur NAZGÛL, mtaylor and Salty Sea Dog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share #1222 Posted July 15, 2014 Thank you so much for the kind comments and likes! Jan, except the added carvings, a few cannons and the rigging ropes, it's just tweaked original parts, even the open gunports are reconstructed using the kit parts . i don't use metal parts like hinges though as I think they don't give the sense of scale, so I make my own from paper soaked in CA glue. The kit is very decent as a base. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 15, 2014 Share #1223 Posted July 15, 2014 your build is looking great Matti! first steps and shrouds are very nicely done........I really like a few of those pictures! they show the extra work you've put into her.....I quite agree, this is the best representation of a kit, that I've ever seen brass really isn't a big problem......I would think there is a product out there, that would remove the finish, but retain the overall character of the part. prepping the surface, in order to get the paint to stick seems to be the stumbling block here. I do recall that there is a product, used in the process of photo etch, that may be a solution to this problem. most of your ornamentation is carved......one sure-fire way to negate this problem really adds to your build as well.....very nice work! NAZGÛL 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share #1224 Posted July 15, 2014 Thanks Pops! All the kind comments and likes makes me a happy builder! /Matti riverboat 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share #1225 Posted July 16, 2014 I'm now working on the channels and dead eyes for the mainmast. Here's a compilation of Vasa deadeyes. Their shape are very individual from piece to piece, some are almost circular other very irregular. I like this and want to try and imitate that on my model. I use the round deadeyes that comes with the kit and sand everýone. After the shape is ok it's time for some finegrit sanding to remove any edges and giving the surfase a handmade look: I do this óne mast at the time to avoid getting to much repetative work. After this stage its time for making the metalparts that sits around the lower deadeyes. /Matti newbuilder101, hexnut, amateur and 19 others 22 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 16, 2014 Share #1226 Posted July 16, 2014 very nice thought........I guess this could be classified as micro detailing with all the fine bits you've put into her......it would be a shame to stop now fantastic work! NAZGÛL 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted July 16, 2014 Share #1227 Posted July 16, 2014 Very nice! Perhaps you could do them all at once by inserting wires through the hole and binding the deadeyes together? The irregular drilling of the holes will see to it that each deadeye is slightly different, since that's the look you are going for? NAZGÛL 1 Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted July 16, 2014 Share #1228 Posted July 16, 2014 Fabulous attention to detail Matti Are you filing the grooves back in after shaping? Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share #1229 Posted July 16, 2014 Cheers Pops, Keith and Nigel! And thanks for the likes everyone! Keith, perhaps it could work but I think I get the controle needed this way. Nigel, no I think it will work out without them. I tested this with the mizzen deadeyes. /Matti NMBROOK 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted July 17, 2014 Share #1230 Posted July 17, 2014 I love your attention to even the slightest of detail. Great work! NAZGÛL 1 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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