marc stutzel Posted May 6, 2018 Share #1 Posted May 6, 2018 Hello, I just starting my first ship, the "Black Prince" by Mamoli. I was lost until I found your planking for beginners article. Thank you. My great x X Grandfather was Joshuah Humphreys , coined the father of the US Navy, having designed the first USN six frigates. Previously he armed Benjamin Franklins merchant ships during the revolutionary war. One was the "Black Prince". I am having fun, learning and again thanx in appreciation. Marc geoff, trippwj, russ and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 6, 2018 Share #2 Posted May 6, 2018 Hello Mark, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. John mtaylor and geoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 6, 2018 Share #3 Posted May 6, 2018 Hello Marc, Welcome to MSW. I would suggest that by all means, open a build log in the kit area. You'll get help and encouragement for your project. geoff 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc stutzel Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted May 6, 2018 I would love to do a photo shoot as this model is not listed. Plans leave a lot to ones imagination and intuitive skills. It is kinda ugly now. Mamoli wanted me to narrow all the planks at both ends. What a mathamatical mess. I layered them on straight after two weeks of "what are they talkin about without pics?" I finally invisioned another plan to do it thanks to your guides. It may not be a reproduction but at least I can sleep at night. I will see if I can do a build log. Thanx for connecting. My goal is to do a repo of Joshes "Old Ironsides" hull cross braces and other inventions. Marc trippwj, geoff and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted May 7, 2018 Share #5 Posted May 7, 2018 Marc, have you been aboard your GGG grand dad's ship? Regards, mtaylor and geoff 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc stutzel Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted May 7, 2018 Yes as a kid my family took a vacation to Boston. M geoff and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc stutzel Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted May 7, 2018 I cannot find the build log in kit area or the kit area for that matter. Thnx for leading me there . Marc. geoff and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 7, 2018 Share #8 Posted May 7, 2018 About halfway down the homepage, you'll see this: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/forum/9-members-build-logs/ marc stutzel and geoff 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc stutzel Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted May 7, 2018 Got it. thanx very much. marc geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff Posted May 7, 2018 Share #10 Posted May 7, 2018 Welcome to MSW Marc. Glad to see you got sorted!! All the best, Geoff mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted May 7, 2018 Share #11 Posted May 7, 2018 welcome Marc . just remember first builds are a learning experience .. have fun ,, Boyd mtaylor and marc stutzel 2 Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjay Posted May 7, 2018 Share #12 Posted May 7, 2018 mtaylor 1 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted May 8, 2018 Share #13 Posted May 8, 2018 And greetings from Belgium mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Griffith Posted May 8, 2018 Share #14 Posted May 8, 2018 Welcome aboard Marc~! The Connie is very dear to us and our naval tradition; she is still the flagship of our North Atlantic fleet. Keep building and above all, have fun. Duff mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc stutzel Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted May 8, 2018 I appreciate all the welcomes. I am "having fun" and thinking it through. You know the plans have a lot to be desired. Definately requires some imagination and "Nautical Research". Mamoli Black Prince is my first, a "learning experience" through research trial and error. Half way up, or down as the case may be, of first planking. Arrived at rudder and figuring out which way to fill in the fat middle and skinney ends. Recommended to start a build log and ask with pics. I opted out of the plank narrowing at both ends as a mathematical nightmare. Heck, a guy needs advanced calculus for that method. Perhaps my ole Josh Humphreys will enlighten me in a dream.... Marc shihawk, trippwj and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 9, 2018 Share #16 Posted May 9, 2018 No math really on tapering.... just tic strips and counting planks. There's tutorials here: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/forum/14-building-framing-planking-and-plating-a-ships-hull-and-deck/ and in the database here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-modeling-articles-and-downloads.php Take a look at them and pic the one you like. There's a simplified method in the database. marc stutzel 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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