RGL Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share #571 Posted June 20, 2018 Nun’s, nasty things that used rulers, then Brothers, canes and straps. popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #572 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Gents, a man with experience! He can even define the sex gender by the type of punishmen applicator!!! Edited June 20, 2018 by cog Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 20, 2018 Share #573 Posted June 20, 2018 I bow to superior wisdom and experience... Piet, lmagna, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share #574 Posted June 20, 2018 Yes, lucky I was an unattractive child. Jack12477, mtaylor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #575 Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, RGL said: Yes, lucky I was an unattractive child. So they beat you senseless? mtaylor, Canute, Piet and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share #576 Posted June 20, 2018 Rubber straps really hurt, but one did learn manners and that ones opinion is not the only one Canute, popeye the sailor, cog and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted June 20, 2018 Share #577 Posted June 20, 2018 Our school had a large paddle with holes drilled in it that looked like it had been lovingly crafted in shop class by some masochist and was prominently displayed outside the principals office door. Didn't have to be taken down often. Back then getting the paddel would only have been the first punishment. There would have been a lot more when you got home! 2 hours ago, cog said: but then I would have to take the armament off. OK Carl you got me again. Why would you have to take the guns of if you made a stand designed after a dry dock? All the supports are under the hull. Jack12477, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #578 Posted June 20, 2018 In dry dock armament is often removed - turrets probably not - certainly amunition Piet, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted June 20, 2018 Share #579 Posted June 20, 2018 Ah, well do I remember the good(?) sisters applying ruler to knuckles. Not too often luckily. The Brothers I studied under used chalkboard erasers as standoff weapons as needed. Particularly recalcitrant pupils were invited out back for thrashings. We had some big obnoxious kids in high school (I was a math & science nerd, so avoided those run-ins). lmagna, Piet, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted June 20, 2018 Share #580 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Had a nun in 8th grade try to wack the back of my hand with a plastic ruler, at last second before contact, I clenched my fist tight and rotated it 90 degrees, ruler hit the thumb side of fist and shattered. man was she mad but never tried it on me again ! Edited June 20, 2018 by Jack12477 Canute, Piet, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 20, 2018 Share #581 Posted June 20, 2018 spur of the moment thing.......I have a graduation to go to for my oldest grandson. it will take a bite out of my day today, so I won't get as much done as I would have hoped to accomplish. here is what I have so far. for the ill fated bulkhead, I did get the door in place......also the cradles for the paravanes. there is a small structure to the right of these two structures, that needs a railing to go around it before it's cemented in place. I fared badly with it, so I'm substituting some other railings on it...that's where I ended last Friday. I had decanted the primer...even though it's still in it's wet state, I compared it to the color blotches on the diagram. it is pretty close to the gunze color, so I used it without making any adjustments. the fore structure has been given the ghost gray so far, set on the deck to see how it will look. the main deck still needs to be done. I also see a saving grace......I notice that the main mast is on the same slant, as the funnels, so I might not have to drill a hole in the fore deck. I managed to save the pipe on the aft funnel......so that little problem has been averted.....now they can be painted, once PE has been added. I assembled the platforms on one of the torpedo launchers...haven't gone much further there. kinda blurry......hope you can see alright. I'll post any progress today ASAP CDW, Jack12477, Old Collingwood and 8 others 11 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #582 Posted June 20, 2018 All things considered, sailor-man, nicely done. Those railings really bite you in the hiney when you don't pay attention, or let your concentration wander ... I found the PE in this kit very fragile compared to e.g Pontos PE lmagna, Canute, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 20, 2018 Share #583 Posted June 20, 2018 11 hours ago, mtaylor said: Not from my popcorn... I have a wooden ruler just right for slapping hands. "What - you measure your popcorn with a ruler"....... OC. Piet, cog, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted June 20, 2018 Share #584 Posted June 20, 2018 Here's a random question... Who do you guys think supplies the best photo-etch materials? Eduard? Tom's Modelworks? Gold Medal? Pontos? I've been looking for a 1/350 set for Tamiya's Fletcher destroyer, but really don't know which supplier provides the best etch! Alan popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted June 20, 2018 Share #585 Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, knightyo said: Here's a random question... Who do you guys think supplies the best photo-etch materials? Eduard? Tom's Modelworks? Gold Medal? Pontos? I've been looking for a 1/350 set for Tamiya's Fletcher destroyer, but really don't know which supplier provides the best etch! Alan I would have said Pontos and Flyhawk. OC. mtaylor, Canute, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share #586 Posted June 20, 2018 Eduard is rubbish I don’t really know about Tom’s as it’s hard to get in Oz and very expensive Gold Medal Models is also very very expensive for what you get and about 10 years out of date compared to what s coming out of Korea Flyhawk is nice and good value Pontos is top shelf as is Infini Models (SangYun Park did a lot of their stuff before he defected) Alliance Model Works is a US company and very reasonable with nice stuff BigBlueBoy has some DDG stuff MK1 is good there is so much stuff out of Asia now it leaves the older companies in the dust. the two sites I look at are BNA model world in Oz and Hobby Easy in Hong Kong Piet, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #587 Posted June 20, 2018 Eduard is rubbish for ships. Not for their own airplane kits Never tried Tom's as it didn't deliver what I needed I have a Fly Hawk set for Musashi, not bad but could be better, Pontos' set was better, so I used both of them, as my kit was from the old tool, and the Pontos set was sold as old tool, but only covered the new one Alliance Model Works is expensive, mainly due to shipping. If I need it I truy to buy from ebay. North Star has some nice general PE And there is Atlantic Models which has some sets for Royal Navy models in different scales, which I liked working with knightyo, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted June 20, 2018 Share #588 Posted June 20, 2018 Thanks guys! That was fantastic info. I've told myself that I'm not allowed to start a new project until I finish my Syren/Triton, but I'll eventually join in with you guys unless you've modeled the entire navies of all countries by the time I'm ready. lol Alan cog, Jack12477, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted June 20, 2018 Share #589 Posted June 20, 2018 Never been a fan of steel PE. You only get one shot at folding it. Piet, Jack12477, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 20, 2018 Share #590 Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Canute said: Never been a fan of steel PE. You only get one shot at folding it. Some brass PE does exactly the same You've got one shot to bend it, and after that you have multiple pieces ... Old Collingwood, lmagna, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted June 20, 2018 Share #591 Posted June 20, 2018 Sometimes the brass is too soft and ends up pretty wavy. Not good for masts and the like. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share #592 Posted June 21, 2018 The next build is months away gents so plenty of time to join. Dont be afraid of PE, and don’t be afraid to use small strips of wood or styrene to make backing plates. There are often gaps and this fixes the gaps. mtaylor, Jack12477, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share #593 Posted June 21, 2018 You’ll probably find this hard to believe but I have a fair bit of PE left over now which I keep in a plastic sleeve folder and sticky take the frets to a piece of paper. Strangely enough the modern DDG was the least satisfying build as everything was done and no imagination was needed and the tolerances were unforgiving. cog, Old Collingwood, lmagna and 5 others 8 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted June 21, 2018 Share #594 Posted June 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, RGL said: least satisfying build Unfortunately that can happen when you become a master of the medium and you need a bigger challenge to keep it interesting. Piet, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted June 21, 2018 Share #595 Posted June 21, 2018 that's a fine list you folks created there........I was looking at Gold Medal this evening. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share #596 Posted June 21, 2018 Spend some time looking at Hobby Easy or BNA (easier to navigate), probably 70% is directed at IJN aftermarket but there is so many extras out there. The 3d printing world is also amazing but for those of us at the top end of the world the shipping is waaaaaaaay out of proportion (must be a EU thingy). Unfortunately GMM was British then bought out by the yanks and whilst they were pretty much to start of PE they have not made a new product since the turn of the century Piet, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 21, 2018 Share #597 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, lmagna said: Unfortunately that can happen when you become a master of the medium and you need a bigger challenge to keep it interesting. Don't give him more credit than that he's worth, Lou. You are crossing the bounderies ... back to your perch laddy 2 hours ago, RGL said: Spend some time looking at Hobby Easy or BNA (easier to navigate), probably 70% is directed at IJN aftermarket but there is so many extras out there. The 3d printing world is also amazing but for those of us at the top end of the world the shipping is waaaaaaaay out of proportion (must be a EU thingy). Unfortunately GMM was British then bought out by the yanks and whilst they were pretty much to start of PE they have not made a new product since the turn of the century He is still puttin' me down, and rubbin' it in, nbow he's coming up on the Yanks ... how can you expect me to do another joint build !? Edited June 21, 2018 by cog Jack12477, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share #598 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Um, Aussies have always called them Yanks even though they had a significant impact on us keeping English as our first language in the 1940’s. listening to cog squeal reminds me a bit of a soccer player squealing and falling to the ground crying when they are tapped on the shoulder. Having a contact sport job helps. Edited June 21, 2018 by RGL lmagna, Canute, Jack12477 and 6 others 9 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted June 21, 2018 Share #599 Posted June 21, 2018 33 minutes ago, cog said: back to your perch laddy Perch position obtained.Polly wants a cracker! Jack12477, Canute, cog and 4 others 7 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 21, 2018 Share #600 Posted June 21, 2018 Greg you have to come up with something better than footy, if there is one passtime I abhor, it is that, I don't even find it to be a sport: a bunch of over paid whimps they are, led by a corrupt set of money minded $%^&, so you are right in what you wrote about footy You may enlighten me (preferably by PM) on "Yanks had a significant impact on us keeping English as our first language in the 1940’s" Polly ... SYF or should I write SYB and sit still Old Collingwood, src, lmagna and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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