Muskies Posted August 3, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) Hello from Acton Ontario Canada. My name is John and new to this forum and model ships however I find it all very intriguing to say the least at the detail and craftsmanship that goes into these prices of history. I Purchased this from one of my antique dealers, he tells me it’s from the 50’s I disagree thinking it’s older however we both could be wrong, I’ve done lots of online research and came up empty the closest I found was a cutty sark. Any info and maybe a value of this wonderful model ship would be much appreciated. Measures 36” in length and 30” in height beautifully carved out pieces such as the life boat, rudder, helm, hanging lamps and so on, I’ve attached some photo’s.Thanks in advance. Edited August 3, 2018 by Muskies Add intro and greeting mtaylor and geoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted August 3, 2018 Share #2 Posted August 3, 2018 Sorry to disappoint you , but it's a relatively modern, mass produced 'decorative' model (probably from the Far East) that does not resemble any real ship. It's a total fantasy vessel. geoff, mtaylor and russ 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskies Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted August 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, druxey said: Sorry to disappoint you , but it's a relatively modern, mass produced 'decorative' model (probably from the Far East) that does not resemble any real ship. It's a total fantasy vessel. Hi druxey. Thanks for your input and clarification, I was thinking it was a piece of folk art. mtaylor, geoff and druxey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted August 3, 2018 Share #4 Posted August 3, 2018 I agree this is a gift shop model. It looks like someone recently put some time into freshening it up. The “rigging” is new and the base it sits on looks like it was repourposed from something else. As a Gift Shop Model it’s value is low. As mentioned above, they are produced quickly and inexpensively and don’t look like any particular ship even though they will often have the names of real ships painted on them. The “details” on Gift Shop Models reflect the available resources at hand when they are built and have little or nothing to do with the details of actual ships. For instance the rows of windows in this model don’t reflect any actual ship, the builder was simply sawing out windows to add “detail”. there’s nothing unethical or “wrong” about folk art Gift Shop Models. They fill a vital nich since they make ship models available to those that can’t afford a “real” one. Ethical issues crop up though when Gift Shop Models are hyped as representing more than what they are, it’s not uncommon to see Gift Shop Models described as being “Museum Quality”. geoff, druxey and mtaylor 3 Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff Posted August 4, 2018 Share #5 Posted August 4, 2018 Sorry John I have to agree with the previous suggestions. Welcome to MSW nevertheless! All the best, Geoff mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskies Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted August 4, 2018 Thanks everybody for your input much appreciated!! I like the model regardless however my kids are having a yard sale today and I decided to give it to them to sell and they keep the proceeds. Very happy to say that cheep fake fantasy model was sold for $535 in a bidding war between three people in the first hour, not bad for a $50 initial investment. I tried to explain that it’s worth isn’t much in my opinion but they gobbled it up anyways. Again thanks to all who commented on it. My Dad and I built a large model kit thirty five years ago which I still have displayed on the wall so I figure it’s time for anothers to go with the few others purchased over the years. Next week I’ll draw up the schematics and gather what’s needed with the piles of hardwood and softwood materials left over from previous projects. Any advise on materials to work with would be a great help, glues,rigging etc: I have two project idea’s in mind, one of an old war sailship and one of a pirates vessel. Most likely start on the warship first..cannons standing guard. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted August 4, 2018 Share #7 Posted August 4, 2018 Muskies, As they say, you’re in good company. In today’s Wall Street Journal, in their Off Duty section there is a piece describing decoration of a house in Gloucester, MA. In a sidebar titled “Bits that evoke the Sleeper McCann house” they show an ugly, crude “1900’s Folk Art Ship Model” that bears little resemblance to any real or imagined vessel. Price: $695. Roger mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altduck Posted August 4, 2018 Share #8 Posted August 4, 2018 I'm especially happy for your kids - they just struck it rich! 😊 mtaylor 1 Quote Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 6, 2018 Share #9 Posted August 6, 2018 Welcome to MSW, Sort out which ship you want to build and then look around MSW for either the ship you select or one similar. There's some excellent kits available and also scratch building your own. MSW is a great resource for help and sharing your experience with others. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted August 6, 2018 Share #10 Posted August 6, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 5:19 PM, Muskies said: Very happy to say that cheep fake fantasy model was sold for $535 in a bidding war between three people in the first hour, not bad for a $50 initial investment. Your children can sell very well And mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted August 6, 2018 Share #11 Posted August 6, 2018 Please send the buyer my way. I have this rather large bridge for sale, you see.... Jack12477, Chuck Seiler and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted August 6, 2018 Share #12 Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, druxey said: I have this rather large bridge for sale, you see.... Brooklyn or Rainbow ????? mtaylor 1 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsutcliffe Posted August 6, 2018 Share #13 Posted August 6, 2018 London presumably (not tower bridge ha) mtaylor and Jack12477 2 Quote The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48 Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48 Previous builds- Elidir - Thames steam barge Cutty Sark-Billings boats Wasa - billings boats Among others 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskies Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Jack12477 said: Brooklyn or Rainbow ????? 2 hours ago, Jack12477 said: Brooklyn or Rainbow ????? On the contrary, it was by far a scam or sold by a con artist, I just placed it roadside with best offer and in they came on their own with offers, I’m sure if I had held off a little longer or posted it online for sale in the garage sale, the kids could have fetched a greater number but their happy with what they got as am I whom got a case of beer out of it! 😉right back at you’s. mtaylor, druxey and Jack12477 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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