allanyed Posted October 2, 2018 Share #1 Posted October 2, 2018 I am looking for definitive information on running rigging belaying points for a fourth rate of 1695. I have scoured Lees and Anderson and there is a lot of information there that is helpful, but in the words of R.C. Anderson It would be impossible - for me at any rate - to give a complete list of the type and position of the fastening of every rope. It is many years since he wrote that statement so I am hoping someone can lead me to THE definitive source on belaying points for this era. There is a model of a 50 gun fourth rate of 1693 (possibly the Portland), and a model of a 60 gun of 1703 at Annapolis for which I have photos from the past but I only have a few photos and they were not taken with the thoughts of following running rigging lines. If necessary I will have to go back up to Maryland and spend a day or two photographing and sketching lines, but would love to avoid that if possible. There is a fully rigged model of a 50 gun of 1695 at NMM, but going there and getting to the model and taking photos is probably not possible. Any leads, information, and help of any kind would be most welcome. Allan thibaultron and wrkempson 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted October 20, 2018 Share #2 Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) https://ancre.fr/fr/monographies/93-le-saint-philippe-1693.html How about looking at some other countries ships of that period? French rigging is not identical but some lines are surely the same. Whatever you find, when you choose to dive in that era, one of the greatest trap, that you have to accept, is that many answers: will only be your best guest. Edited October 20, 2018 by Gaetan Bordeleau thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 20, 2018 Share #3 Posted October 20, 2018 I suspect the definitive scheme still needs to be written - by you, Allan! thibaultron, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted October 27, 2018 Thank you gentlemen. I did purchase higher resolution photos of a 1695 50 gun fourth rate from NMM and they are somewhat of a help, albeit not as good as actually having a chance to stand in front of the model and drawing the belaying points for each line. With these photos, Lees, Anderson and a myriad of other sources, I do hope it will be as detailed and accurate as possible. There are some conflicts between the sources, but I believe that is not unusual when doing any kind of research in this hobby of ours. Allan thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thibaultron Posted October 27, 2018 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2018 Also each Captain setup the rigging on his ship as suited his "ideal" setup, so each ship had some variation, even from captain to captain. davyboy and mtaylor 2 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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