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Cruiser Varyag 1901 by Valeriy V - scale 1:75

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Glad I have just found your log before you have got too far Valeriy, love this style of model.  Making all of the metal parts must be so time consuming and sadly I'm not familiar with the techniques so looking to be educate by you.  I can't even imagine the amount of work you have ahead of you...but it will be worth it.

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4 hours ago, Beef Wellington said:

Glad I have just found your log before you have got too far Valeriy, love this style of model.  Making all of the metal parts must be so time consuming and sadly I'm not familiar with the techniques so looking to be educate by you.  I can't even imagine the amount of work you have ahead of you...but it will be worth it.

Hey Jason. Thanks for the kind words. I will be happy to help you with my experience. :) 

 

 

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Hello Valeriy,

wow, fantastic work! Varyag is of the same period and style as a future project I am planning to build: German Gun Boat Iltis II stationary  of Tsing Tau in 1900.

Looking forward to learning of the progress of your Cruiser.

 

Joachim

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2 hours ago, cotrecerf said:

Hello Valeriy,

wow, fantastic work! Varyag is of the same period and style as a future project I am planning to build: German Gun Boat Iltis II stationary  of Tsing Tau in 1900.

Looking forward to learning of the progress of your Cruiser.

 

Joachim

 

Hello Joachim!

I would be glad if you join. We will build models together and then there will be more metal ships on the forum.  Iltis II  interesting and original ship.

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Valeriy V  There are very few metal ships on the forum. I will try to add a little

in my opinion  metal ships are something like

 

SMS Szent István by Gigler László
William Meldrum - Peabody Essex Museum
RMS Titanic by Bicskei János
Aeolus - Sjohistoriska Museet Stockholm

ORP Błyskawica - bronze model near museum ship Gdynia

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Hi Valeriy,

 

I was already wondering if you would bring metal plating on to the hull. Now the surprise with liquid putty and masking tape. The result is fantastic, well done, thanks for sharing your methode here....

 

Nils

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2 hours ago, mmdd said:

Valeriy V  There are very few metal ships on the forum. I will try to add a little

in my opinion  metal ships are something like

 

You are a little wrong. I wrote about metal SHIPS.   You wrote about the metal MODELS of ships. Perhaps the reason for this error is my bad English.  :) 

 

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59 minutes ago, Mirabell61 said:

Hi Valeriy,

 

I was already wondering if you would bring metal plating on to the hull. Now the surprise with liquid putty and masking tape. The result is fantastic, well done, thanks for sharing your methode here....

 

Nils

Hi, Nils!
Thanks for the feedback. This method has long been used by ship modelers from the former Soviet Union.

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Thanks for your feedback comment Valeriy,

 

is there perhaps a way of resembling rivet heads and vertical joints on the model, and in combination with that method, if the belt strakes were not welded ?  I trust in your case  scale 1:75 may allow visible (flattened) rivets, they would not be too dominant in that case.

 

Nils

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Valeriy V You are a little wrong. I wrote about metal SHIPS

Two examples of metal SHIPS (iron-hulled)

James Craig launched 1874

Rickmer Rickmers launched 1896

 

Valeriy V  Perhaps the reason for this error is my bad English

маєте рацію - гарна допомога The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea (Peter Kemp, Oxford University Press).

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47 minutes ago, mmdd said:

Valeriy V You are a little wrong. I wrote about metal SHIPS

Two examples of metal SHIPS (iron-hulled)

James Craig launched 1874

Rickmer Rickmers launched 1896

 

Valeriy V  Perhaps the reason for this error is my bad English

маєте рацію - гарна допомога The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea (Peter Kemp, Oxford University Press).

Thank you, mmdd. I will use your help.

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1 hour ago, Mirabell61 said:

Thanks for your feedback comment Valeriy,

 

is there perhaps a way of resembling rivet heads and vertical joints on the model, and in combination with that method, if the belt strakes were not welded ?  I trust in your case  scale 1:75 may allow visible (flattened) rivets, they would not be too dominant in that case.

 

Nils

Good question, Nils! :) 

 

Here is the table of the German Lloyd, the diameters of the rivets, depending on the thickness of the sheet. Probably, the data of English Lloyd are not very different. It turns out that the size of the heads of the rivets in the range of 15-45 mm.

In my opinion, showing the size of the heads of rivets on a scale of   1: 100    1:75 does not make sense. If the diameter of the rivet heads is shown correctly, they become almost invisible by 0.15-0.6 mm.

On Varyag all the heads of the rivets were not visible, option "C".

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2 hours ago, Mirabell61 said:

Thanks for your feedback comment Valeriy,

 

is there perhaps a way of resembling rivet heads and vertical joints on the model, and in combination with that method, if the belt strakes were not welded ?  I trust in your case  scale 1:75 may allow visible (flattened) rivets, they would not be too dominant in that case.

 

Nils

I cut the vertical joints on the hull of the boat with a sharp knife blade along the ruler.

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