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Time for rudder gudgeons. According to the kit plans, their pins should be created using 1mm wire drilled right into the rudder and bent 90 degrees. That would be hideous, so I decided to solder them to the outer side of the gudgeons creating a gentle toe like this (Proxxon butane torch rules)

 

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But then the pin appeared to me too thick, so I replaced the 1mm wire with thin brass nails. 

 

I don't have good experience with blackening brass, so I painted the parts using metal primer, tamyia acrylic and semi-matt Nelson varnish to protect the paint. There is a bit of silver paint to add the shiny metal effect, but not on the photo. 

 

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Almost finished rudder

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Thanks Martin, much appreciated. 

 

 

There was one more delicate piece to be made, the spectacle plate for the rudder chains. I used 1mm copper sheet and again solder. 

 

 

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Then I could finish the rudder and put in in place. 

 

 

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And then I was thinking about the way how to bend the stern decoration. Alistair chose to break it into a few parts and glue it together again, but I wanted to work with one single part. I aimed to create a plaster stencil and then cast a brand new piece made of tin. In the end I took the risky approach, grabbed a torch and the piece in tweezers, heated it and let it bend slowly part after part. It looks unharmed now and suprisingly well follows the stern of my Fly. 

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Very nice work. The rudder looks spot on. A very clever idea for bending the stern decoration - I wish I'd thought of that!

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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Beautiful work on the chain plate!  I think I'm going to have to study metallurgy!

 

You've also done a fine job of making the detail of the decoration visible.  I like that white line and the white of the horns.  So, in making the plaster cast, how did you get the detail?  I ask out of complete ignorance of any kind of casting technique.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Thanks for the kind words.

 

Martin, that is a misunderstanding, I didn't cast a new piece, I just used the supplied one and bent it using torch. But if I were to cast a new piece, then I would simply lubricate the stencil (=supplied piece) with oil or something, put it in a plaster, let it harden, put the stencil out and then use tin and lead solder to cast a new one. That would be also flat, but much softer and bendable. 

1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Hello folks, after a long time (I've rediscovered Baldur's Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal :) ) a small update.

 

The aft furniture is basically finished with rudder and helm in their places as well as their rigging. 

 

 

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But then I remembered that I haven't created scuppers yet, well, more likely I've been postponing it for far too long. So I grabbed a 2mm brass tube, cut it into pieces, drilled holes above the wales and the rest was easy. 

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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good Progress Vitus,

 

your ship Looks great....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Looking very good Vitus. Are you going to post a shot of your stern?

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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Hello folks, after a long time (I've rediscovered Baldur's Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal :) ) a small update.

 

 

 

Man, those are games from a long time ago, aren't they?  As in like 25 years ago?  I think I remember playing them in high school :)

 

Very nice work on your Fly!

Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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Well, you guys are a different generation -- I thought those must be novels.  :o

 

I like those scuppers, Vitus.  I don't think I'd seen those on the plans.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Thanks, they are not on plans. I was inspired by Dan's Vulture. 

 

Now, I was not completely satisfied with the supplied blocks, so I've decided to create a small sanding jig. It is most useful attached to a high-speed grinder. 

 

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The result (original and sanded blocks):

 

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And finally the almost finished forecastle with funnel made of wood and its pot or flap or whatever it is called is made of metal. 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Welcome back Vitus. My Fly is still on hold - just no time to spare. You are well past me now and it is looking great as well.

 

Cheers

Alistair

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

 

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

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Thanks guys, good to see you as well. Hope you'll find a way back to your Swans soon. 

 

A small update. I did not want to alter the chain pumps, but simple bent 1mm wire handles looked just ridiculous, so I grabbed my solder torch and made these. Finally I blackended the parts. 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Thanks guys.

 

SpyGlass: the wales are painted (dull black) and varnished. Plain parts are just varnished with Lord Nelson semi-matt. More and more I realise that for the next model I will need to buy proper wood of the same colour. Combination of tanganyika and differently toned walnut looks weird unpainted. 

 

I've finally added the second pair of seats of ease as well as boards to give the crew some privacy. Again, Dan's suberb Vulture was the model. 

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Just checking out your build.  Beautiful work!

 

- Bug

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Thanks bug, here's another update. I've finished the gun ports, rails, boomkins are roughly done and she finally got her name at the stern. Sadly, cyano made the mirror windows hazy, but on the other hand, I can pretend that my Fly is cruising the northern seas. 

 

 

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1st build - HMS Race Horse (Sergal)

Current build - HMS Fly (Victory/Amati)

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Stunning work - beautiful!!

 

Regards

 

Doug

Completed: HM Brig Supply - JoKita / Caldercraft 1:64

HMS Fly - Caldercraft 1:64

HMS Sherborne - Caldercraft 1:64

HM Brig Flirt - Vanguard 1:64

                   

 

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