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Hello everyone .
yes i have put cutty sark on the shelf, but i have got hands in a model of a kdy 15 - junior boat. Denmark's oldest class boat constructed in 1928. kdy stands for Royal Danish Yacht Club. The club was founded on July 3, 1866, and 15 is sail arial. the boat was intended as a school boat for young people in the Danish sailing clubs. for that, it quickly got stuck on the name Junior boat. And in my childhood in the 60's, they were to bee seen in every marina. In the 70's, it was also launched in fiberglass. Today there is a long time between you see them now other and more fashionable boat types have taken over.
In 1986 to 1990, I was the owner of one - NR 274 "Beat" built in 1961 for Hvidover sailing club.
over 400 of them have been built over time, but today it is "adult" men who sail them according to the pictures that are on the web. The link below is for an enthusiastic junior boat's website

 

http://kdyjunior.dk/?page_id=269&file=SeasonsEnd2012/
 

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looks like a model that needs a little love.  besides fresh sails,  are you going to do more to spruce 'er up?  good bones for a restoration project  ;) 

     are you finished with the Cutty,  or taking a break?   good to hear from you :) .....your in time for the new year!  all the best!

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Hi Denis.
Thanks for the warm welcome back
Yes this little model has first priority - Cutty Sark must wait.
I have got the sails off the mast and it's probably hard to make them as lifelike but I will do my best Her is a little story about the boat :

 

The model was built according to original drawings in 1:10 by a father who had the idea of building it right 1: 1 to his daughter back in the early 1980s and then they should be followed on the summer holidays in their folk boat and daughter in the junior boat. however, the idea never turned out to be  but the father got this model built in 1:10. I bought the model of the son-in-law cheaply in the bought and sold newspaper and wondered whay  he could sell it with the moving story.
But there are also things to fix. fex. at some point someone has changed at the keel - probably because they have seen the possibility of sailing with the model and found it necessary to get a deeper and heavier keel for the stability. I also suspect the rother to be too short because of the same embrace.
just a picture of the sails after I got them off the mast. they are difficult to live up to. but I have to do my best.

 

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Hello everyone . I have sewn a few sails, unfortunately not quite the standard I was hoping for but I continue the restoration now and then I might sew a better set later.
Wiererne - on the mast is of stiff wire. I've got a soft (real Wierer) in 1.1mm - it's a gear cable for a racing bike. I'm in the process of making brace screws - don't know the name of English but hope the drawing makes sense. It is to tighten the mast with.2105826592_juniorbd2(22).thumb.JPG.0622d120c53f2344655a38a24ee3c0a3.JPG461037551_juniorbd2(25).thumb.JPG.aab2fdbb798e6d68ddcbb07f2f2489af.JPG

I have faund a old pic of mee and my Juniorbåd   Beat  it is erly spring 1986 .

 

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Cheers All. 

 

Jens 

 

 

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I have mounted the front seal so that it can be easily put on and removed again. I have used 3mm brass pipes and cut a track that looks a bit like a S, you holler the sail 90 degrees to the wire and secure in and then turn up in to vertical.574143945_juniorbd4(5).thumb.JPG.fd767e1098509fe7b74ca429d3b2c921.JPG2009935868_juniorbd4(8).thumb.JPG.d04e50c9a00a93602b0431516caaf9d3.JPG

I am now going to restore the keel and the rother. It looks like someone has changed these at some point to sail with the model and then wanted a deeper and heavier balance point
enny way it is gravel in my eyes to look at and MUST be fixed.

 

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The lead keel has been moved further down and adapted to this new position so that it does not fit the original position anymore, as it is now too small here.
many holes have also been drilled in the lead and filled with balsa wood - he who has built the model has been serious about the messurments and weight being akurate - in fact the keel is iron - not the heavier lead.

Cheers All 

Jens

 

 

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Hi Denis 

thanks for nice words about my sails, but i will probably sew some new after all. I don't plan on sailing with the model but I can't live with the keel being as "wrong" as is the case. even if it is painted and not to bee seen at the end So there is no way out , I hawe to make a new keel.

 

 

First i macke a model in wood .

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Then i karst one in tinn- it was an old astra that hast to go .

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i gess this ist the point of no return .

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puhhh.. .. Lukky me - ith not all to bad .

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Cheers 

 

 

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it looks like you cut more than what the metal piece was sitting in..........the addition makes it look better.   nicely done!   I've seen keel parts like this sold individually........the Billing's Dragen is one of the vessels that has these accessory parts listed for.   I would imagine that they would be for R/C....... ballast  and for center of gravity is their main purpose. 

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hi Denis
yes the purpose is for sure to sail with the models that you put metal keel on - now i have not tried to put the model in the water yet. I hope it is just right on the waterline. and if so, then it may well be that I change my mind and yet will sail with it - now we must see, but first it must be painted

 

I found online a restoration project of a junior boat and borrowed this picture - it is fun to line up the model with the right boat.18-RefitAnheli.jpg.503823ef611a7133bb1ccb0172fd8d31.jpg

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Hi All  :D

I have painted the freeboard, I hardly thought it would dry again, so I had to turn up the heat. during the wait i had to find useful to take care of - i had to make an anchor for the model of course. And it will naturally be a umbrilla anchor - I make wood molds and mold it in the tin.

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Paint dryout at larst .:rolleyes:

 

Jens .

 

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Thanks Denis i also wery pleast with the outcum of it all . the Juniorboat mens a lot to me as it vas my first real boat . and it was wirly a plessur to ovne . Unfortanly my chrismas hollyday ends this weekend so not so muts tim to bild .  I still neds a new ruf on the cabin  and menny things to fit the rigging and so on .- i guess it just may take the time it taks . 

Jens.

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be glad to know that this hobby doesn't race along.........it suits one just fine,  at their own pace.  the only thing that tugs at you,  is given the model,  you can't wait to see it finished ;)    just take your time and enjoy !

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hi Denis
I have had time for a little model building and have started to change the roof it is put in two layers of veneer. in the waitting time  and a little bit in between, I have built a beer box for the anchor rope and it has also become a pair of mooring cleats. so a little is being built.

 

Ruf top gon , redy for new layer. 

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I build a beer box for the anchor and the rope  i think that is autentik for haw it was don back then .

The 1. layer roof is ond and sanded redy for layer 2.

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Roof layer 2 is on its way . 

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the interior ribbing seems to have been built rather well :)   love the beer box........and you wrote on it too........nice touch!   if you took a 1" brush and went in there,  you might get more of the dust out of the cracks and corners.  some polish will bring the wood luster back too.  this will help blend in with the work your putting into her ;)    looking really nice.....were there any with a raised cabin,  one that might be high enough for some windows?

    I see there is a coaming there............your doing a super job!

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Hi Denis
yes i will clean it thoroughly and lacquer with a fresh coat of paint eventually when the worst dirt is over.
There are no windows in the "cabin" because it is an open boat with a ring deck and rouf. I have found this picture on the web of someone who is overnight in a Junior boat .man can put up a boom tent, and thus it is like lying in a tent room2001342771_juniorbd57.thumb.jpg.94732c27f6cd519e0d2cb7ec023af973.jpg

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hi - I'm done with the roof and given it varnish
I now struggle to make blocks that are small and that work with a running wheel in the middle. I try to make them brass. unfortunately I am not satisfied. if the model is to be sailed with then it must work better. and if it is only for decoration then they can also look better. Im still on the project .

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Hi AllB)

I thought about whether I could sail with the model and whether remote control is an option. I know that "someone" before me has tried to sail with it. and therefore has changed the keel - first by drilling holes in the lead keel - as this was too heavy obviously and then made the keel deeper - for the sake of stability. I never tried to launch the model before I changed the keel back to the original.
In other words, I try to launch the model in a small tub to see its buoyancy and stability. I think the model is waterproof enough to do the experiment.

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as I was well aware, it is too heavy on the water because tin is heavier than iron.
I have to give up the idea of sailing with it. I still want to build sails and rich as if I could sail with it - mostly the idea that I can hoist and lower sails if I want or take the mast off and on again if I want to. It also means that it must be a little ruby and not exactly perfect. a precursor to a next model that can then be remotely controlled

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Jens.

 

 

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Hi Mark Pearse  :D

I'm glad you like my model, thank you for your comments. I appreciate that very much.

 

Yes it is true that the junior boat is older than the folk boat the junior boat is from 1928 and the folk boat 1942. It is especially in Germany that the junior boat goes under the name folk junior. and when we talk about germany i have searched the Youtube after folke junior boats and found a few movies of approx. 1 minute variety, that is J no 274 - my junior boat. "Beat" built in 1961 for Hvidovre sailing club. I was very surprised to see it again on Youtube.  :huh:

 

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Me and "Beat"  J  274  erly spring 1986 Hundige havn ( aprocmary 20 km from hver it was build )

 

 

links to Youtube wideos of her. :

 

 

 

 

list over all 440 build junior boats  rigistredet by KDY.  

http://kdyjunior.dk/?page_id=121  

 

Thanks for wotching 

 

Jens.

 

 

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inspired by the video of "Beat" my old junior boat no. 274 I will now add a hanger at the mast foot. It is for ropes for the sails up and down184204297_juniorbd9(10).thumb.JPG.e2ad733c450aacb6f90ff2fa9272c0de.JPG879969588_juniorbd9(12).thumb.JPG.fc0790823df3fb61ae12ee4a01a75583.JPG

but when I pull the rope, I pull the hanger up from the deck. I have to weld the thread iron on and stuck it firmly

 

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there is still some way to go but this is a picture I have now reached.

 

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Cheers All .

 

Jens

 

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Hello everyone
a small update on today's work. I have recycled the olde tiller and reborn it as a flagpole - yes it was probably the last thing to put on , but it just fell right to do it now.:rolleyes:1696610986_juniorbd9(20).thumb.JPG.b6442202e82405f7e22f7c831893ca6b.JPG

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she looks beautiful Jens :)   sorry to hear that she isn't sail worthy,  but with a finish like that,  I'd be horrified to put her in water.   she'll make a great display on your mantel though.   can you find plans,  so to build one to sail?  you did a superb job restoring her! ;) 

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I actually thought about building a junior boat from scratch. but it is not to get hold of ship's drawings of it, but I have the model which is very precisely done and maybe I can measure it well enough to perform molds to build after, let's see.  :rolleyes:

 

i build a sleds for the jib rope  .  and im stil building one for the other side .

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Hi  Denis B)

a last update before I sew new sails and finish this project.
I have found on the web a Swedish site where the original drawings for building a Kdy 15 can be downloaded.  Maybe I want to build it a little bigger in order to sail with it with radio control. but now first new sails for this one

 

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the curved roach of the mainsail balances the curves of the hull beautifully; such a good looking boat

 

would you be able to post a link to the website that has the original drawings? 

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