mhkash Posted February 12, 2019 Share #1 Posted February 12, 2019 Hello All Started building L'Etoile - a french Schooner. I Didn't find the plan, so, searched for other plans that are close to it. I found a plan for a three masted Barquentine called DEWARUTJI , and since L'Etoile has only 2 masts, i had to make some modifications to the plan such as widening a little bit at the middle and the stern as well. I do double planking on bulk heads. Please check the attached building log. will keep posting photos as I proceed, and please feel free to post your comments to help reach the proper l'Etoile shape Thank you ccoyle, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennreader Posted February 13, 2019 Share #2 Posted February 13, 2019 Hi mhkash, The plans can be obtained from: http://www.aamm.fr/boutique/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=216 There are plenty of photos to be found on the internet. However be carful because they differ depending on each refit. Have you decided on which version you are building? Glenn mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds Scottish Maid, V108 Torpedo boat Future Builds Snake (Caldercraft) Previous builds HMS Shark (Sergal), Sirene (Coral), Armed Pinnace (Panart), Etoile Schooner (Billings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted February 13, 2019 3 hours ago, glennreader said: Hi mhkash, The plans can be obtained from: http://www.aamm.fr/boutique/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=216 There are plenty of photos to be found on the internet. However be carful because they differ depending on each refit. Have you decided on which version you are building? Glenn Thank you Glenn for the rich information. Actually I know that all versions are identical whether l'Etoile or Belle Poule , I even noticed one of the boats called CLAIRE , Similar Hull and Rigging could you please explain. Thank you very much mtaylor 1 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennreader Posted February 13, 2019 Share #4 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) hmkash, First, never heard of a boat called CLAIRE similar to the Belle Poule or L'Etoile. What I mean by different versions is relating to things like the equipment on deck. For instance, when launched they carried 2 boats: a 6m 'Doris' and a 4m 'Youyou'. I use the French names here. Now they carry 2 life rafts and an inflatable launch. They also had manual windlass, now they are fitted with an electric system. Though from a distance they look very much the same as they did in 1932, on closer inspection there are many differences, including in the rigging. I decided my model was going to portray the ship as she is now, which was probably the easy option, lots of pictures available. The other easy option would be to portray the ship as she was when launched, very few pictures but that is as she is shown in the plans from the Musees de la Marine. Still, you seem to have the basic shape. Though if you look at my log you will see there is a poop deck. I will follow your build. If you need to, feel free to ask any specific questions and I will try and answer them. Glenn Edited February 13, 2019 by glennreader Quote Current Builds Scottish Maid, V108 Torpedo boat Future Builds Snake (Caldercraft) Previous builds HMS Shark (Sergal), Sirene (Coral), Armed Pinnace (Panart), Etoile Schooner (Billings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, glennreader said: hmkash, First, never heard of a boat called CLAIRE similar to the Belle Poule or L'Etoile. What I mean by different versions is relating to things like the equipment on deck. For instance, when launched they carried 2 boats: a 6m 'Doris' and a 4m 'Youyou'. I use the French names here. Now they carry 2 life rafts and an inflatable launch. They also had manual windlass, now they are fitted with an electric system. Though from a distance they look very much the same as they did in 1932, on closer inspection there are many differences, including in the rigging. I decided my model was going to portray the ship as she is now, which was probably the easy option, lots of pictures available. The other easy option would be to portray the ship as she was when launched, very few pictures but that is as she is shown in the plans from the Musees de la Marine. Still, you seem to have the basic shape. Though if you look at my log you will see there is a poop deck. I will follow your build. If you need to, feel free to ask any specific questions and I will try and answer them. Glenn Thank you very much Glenn, I appreciate your effort in making things clear to me. Indeed , I'll find your log and it will be my guide .. I guess i'll follow your advice and select the recent version due to the availability of photos. btw, https://www.antique-fine-art.com/schooner.html here is CLAIRE which is a model based on etoile Thank you again Edited February 14, 2019 by mhkash mtaylor 1 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted February 14, 2019 building progress Thank you yvesvidal, mtaylor, Valeriy V and 2 others 5 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennreader Posted February 14, 2019 Share #7 Posted February 14, 2019 mhkash, You are progressing quickly. It looks more correct now you have the poop deck done. I am looking forward to seeing what you do. I had a look at your link to the model of CLAIRE. It does in fact state that it is a model of the L'Etoile named CLAIRE. My guess would be that the model maker had a specific reason for naming his model CLAIRE, maybe his wife's name or something similar. As for the asking price of £2000, whish I thought I could get £2000 for my model. I do not know what to say. Glenn mhkash and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Builds Scottish Maid, V108 Torpedo boat Future Builds Snake (Caldercraft) Previous builds HMS Shark (Sergal), Sirene (Coral), Armed Pinnace (Panart), Etoile Schooner (Billings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted February 17, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 6:00 PM, glennreader said: mhkash, You are progressing quickly. It looks more correct now you have the poop deck done. I am looking forward to seeing what you do. I had a look at your link to the model of CLAIRE. It does in fact state that it is a model of the L'Etoile named CLAIRE. My guess would be that the model maker had a specific reason for naming his model CLAIRE, maybe his wife's name or something similar. As for the asking price of £2000, whish I thought I could get £2000 for my model. I do not know what to say. Glenn Good Morning Glenn Thank you for kindness and for your time, I'm so glad that you are helping me get this project done, I really appreciate it. I enjoy looking at your etoile model. You did a great job and i wonder why it is not your favorite boat style.. it is perfect and i saved all the photos to use them as the guide as i go on. here is the recent shots Thank you very much. hexnut, paulsutcliffe, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennreader Posted February 18, 2019 Share #9 Posted February 18, 2019 Hi mhkash, You are wrong, after building the L'Etoile Topsail schooners have become a firm favourite. I am now building another one The Scottish Maid. However I have possessed the kit for the Snake, a Sloop of War, for a number of years and will build that afterwards. Your model is coming along very nicely. Glenn mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds Scottish Maid, V108 Torpedo boat Future Builds Snake (Caldercraft) Previous builds HMS Shark (Sergal), Sirene (Coral), Armed Pinnace (Panart), Etoile Schooner (Billings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted February 19, 2019 21 hours ago, glennreader said: Hi mhkash, You are wrong, after building the L'Etoile Topsail schooners have become a firm favourite. I am now building another one The Scottish Maid. However I have possessed the kit for the Snake, a Sloop of War, for a number of years and will build that afterwards. Your model is coming along very nicely. Glenn Thank you very much Glenn, I'm working now on the deadeye blocks , from scratch too. I'll prepare the photo set for the those blocks as i start from scratch to the end, i use Balsa wood , cut it from a Balsa Sheet , thickness of 6 mm x 6 mm , and with a sand paper I get the cylindrical shape, after completion the diameter is about 3.5 mm, then cut this into blocks, again with sand paper until i get the correct shape, I'll try to post those photos in a day or two. Thank you very much shape of mtaylor 1 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted February 26, 2019 Good Morning All I've completed the Cabins and the steering wheel, and to my complete astonishment , the cabins looked as if they were train wagons😂😂 , however , when placed on deck, they gave me a close look and feel (I hope so 🙄☺️), right now, I'm working on the masts. Thank you mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and hexnut 3 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted February 26, 2019 And here are the steering wheel building log GrandpaPhil and mtaylor 2 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted February 28, 2019 Hello All Here is the Masts building log. GrandpaPhil and mtaylor 2 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted March 6, 2019 Hi All, Yesterday I did some more rigging, ropes and blocks. thank you mtaylor and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted March 10, 2019 I started working on the ropes, and the deadeyes. mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and KARAVOKIRIS 3 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted March 12, 2019 some more progress thank you mtaylor, coxswain and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted March 17, 2019 Hello Again, this weekend I've been working on sails and some other blocks, and yaaaaaay ☺️ , I've succeeded in making one of the sails furled ☺️, I'm really happy for that GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and coxswain 3 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted March 21, 2019 Hi All Still have some work to do on the Deck rigging, wish me luck 😉 thank you mtaylor, coxswain, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted March 21, 2019 Share #19 Posted March 21, 2019 Nice work! mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, GrandpaPhil said: Nice work! Thank you GrandpaPhil, Thank you for your nice words🌺 mtaylor 1 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share #21 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Hi All I'm Finalizing 😁 , almost done. Do you have any comment regarding the scale ? Thank you Edited April 1, 2019 by mhkash missing comment ccoyle, mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhkash Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share #22 Posted December 15, 2019 Good Afternoon All Here is the Photo of L'Etoile at the EGYHOBBY 2019 Fair .. Thank you mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and tkay11 3 Quote Models in Progress Prins Willem 1650 Brigantine Schooner - Gigino , Vapor Rimac 1848 - a side Wheel Paddle Steamer Previous Models I-400 Class Submarine L'Etoile , Bluenose II By the Lakeside Diorama , The Lighthouse Diorama , Small fishing harbor Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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