HMAV Bounty by st george – Amati - scale 1/60

[st george]

Well I thought it was about time for me to start my Bounty build.

All my drawings and instructions are for a model with a split false keel, but mine came as one piece so I must have a newer or older kit. Not sure which. :mellow: 

So far I’ve put the frames, reinforcements, False lower deck and the stern reinforcements onto the false keel and attached the deck to give it all strength.

 

 

Next I get to do a lot of sanding I guess, and fair all the frames.

 

Edited June 27, 2013 by st george

[st george]

Just start my Bounty and this turns up at the front door today.

 

 

I won it in the One Eyed Willy's Treasure Hunt in the May edition of the MSB Journal. So tempted to start, but must resist

[Salty Sea Dog]

Hi David!

Looks like you are off to a good start on the Bounty. A lot of folks seem to do multiple builds so you would be in good company if you gave in to temptation!

Best wishes

[Captain Slog]

Hi David,

 

Looking forward to following your build.  Nice one winning the longboat.

 

Cheers

Slog

[realworkingsailor]

Sawdust comes with the territory.... looking forward to your build...

 

I'm of the "resist the temptation" mindset... believe me... it takes a lot of resolve... intestinal fortitude and all that.....

 

 

I've been sitting on my Confed for almost a year now.... I'm hoping I can last a little longer.... but......

 

 

Andy

[st george]

Hi Guys thanks for the replies,

 

I'm going to try and resist (It's been one day already)  

 

I know I'll probably get to some tedious part of the Bounty and get distracted. But for now it stays in the box. (with the lid firmly Open Lol)

[Anja]

Hello David,

 

Congratulations on winning the Longboat.

 

And good luck with your Bounty.

 

Anja

[st george]

Thanks Anja,

 

I'm looking for my stash of sand paper at the moment, but might have to go out on a shopping run. Could be expensive

[Navis Factorem]

Hi David,

 

Thanks for the coment on my Bounty build, you are where I was 2 1/2 years ago. Amazing how time flies when your'e having fun. My kit also had the one piece false keel and my kit was a few years old when I acquired it.

 

If your kit is the same as mine there are a couple of things to attend to fairly early in the build if you want to avoid problems later on.

 

The most significant is the height of the gun ports. The kit includes chunky metal cast items which are nothing like the simple holes in the bulwarks that the ship actually had, and the holes for the kit items are much too low. If fitted as the instructions the gun barrels simply do not fit through the ports without the guns pointing down at about 30 degrees. I lifted the ports 6mm (1/4in) and all that is above the ports is the rail.

 

The entire bow treatment in the kit is a bit strange. The anchor cables disappearing down through the deck and then re-emerging at the hawse holes is incorrect and is a result of the kit bow line above the deck at the bow being several mms too low. I lifted the bow bulwarks about 6mm also to achieve a more accurate detail and to enable the anchor cables to run above the deck as they should.

 

To discover how the Bounty really looked I bought the book John McKay's "Anatomy of the Ship The Armed Transport BOUNTY" which is based on the original drawings. Most of my build hs been based on this including the colour scheme which is on the cover.

 

The now defunct MSW version 1 covered all the early parts of my build including all the things I described above. I still have all the pics and would be happy to communicate with you if you think my input would be of any assistance. The pics below are how my modified gun port and bow details worked.

 

I hope this helps and doesn't confuse the issue too much. How much scratch building you include in your build is obviously up to you. I tend to be a bit keen on detail and accuracy and am prepared to spend lots of time researching. Probably not everyone's "cup of tea".

 

I look farward to following your build.

 

Cheers,

 

David L.

      

 

 

[st george]

Hi David,

 

Thank you for your offer of assistance. This being my first Wooden ship model, I might need it. I have purchased the John McKay's book and am presently studying it. I had noticed the difference in the gun port height and your post has helped me to plan ahead.

I have just been looking at the hawse holes as you mention and can see what you mean. Thank you for pointing that out too. 

I hope you enjoy following my build and please feel free to advise when you think necessary.

 

Cheers

[Navis Factorem]

Hi,

 

It sounds like you are well prepared for your build. I started my Bounty before I had acquired the McKay AoTS and other material and am now suffering a bit from not planning ahead far enough. My main problem is with the rig. I installed the belaying pin racks pretty much according to the Amati kit and have now reached the point in the running rig where I am running out of pins to belay ropes long before I have run out of ropes to belay! I have already had to start running 2 lines to some of the pins.

 

I am basing much of the rig on McKay which has some pretty good, however small, diagrams which do make it a bit difficult to work out what goes where. I am also finding Lennarth Petersson's "Rigging Period Ship Models" very helpful. Although based on a frigate the basic principles of the rig are much the same.

 

I don't think I am going to be able to include all the running rigging for the stay sails on the Bounty as I have not pre-fitted the connection points at the masts and, as mentioned above, I certainly don't have eough belaying points for these additional ropes.

 

This level of detail will have to keep for my next build which is looking like a late 18C frigate. HMS Surprise is looking like the emotional favourite at the moment and I am thinking of getting the Mamoli kit which, at 1:72 will end up a manageable size but should still be big enough to do a complete rig. From the research I have done this kit looks to be a bit on the basic side, for example, I don't think the main gun deck is fully detailed as it looks like it has gun muzzles only on a backing bulkhead. This should create plenty of scope for scratch building to bring up the detail, I will have to find a source for the correct guns and all the other bits and pieces I will need. To me this is a significant part of the build.

 

Another comment on the Amati Bounty. My kit included a single generic metal hull ship's boat which is neither of the boats the Bounty carried. As a bit of a diversion from the main build I scratch built the 2 boats from the drawings in McKay. It took about 30 hours each but I think the result is worth the effort. I have yet to make up the oars and spars. If you also have the single metal boat you may find this additional detail worth achieving.

 

Cheers,

 

David L.

 

 

[ZyXuz]

Hi David,

It's a good start.. good luck on your build

[st george]

Hi David,

 

Yes I do have the  single generic metal hull ship's boat. I have decided to change out as much of the metal parts as I can and make them out of wood. Thanks for the heads up about the rigging. I'll be on the lookout for more info as I get nearer to doing mine.

[st george]

ZyXuz,

 

Thanks for looking in on my build. I hope to get some more done this week.

[jaerschen]

Hi David,

 

very clean work do you show us.

Could you offer more pics of the hull?

It seems to be very nice work as I can see at the last photo

[st george]

Soon as I do more to take a photo of, then I will post. you might be confusing the photos posted by Navis Factorem as being my Bounty though.

[Micklen32]

Following you David

I was always going to do the Bounty but I found the story behind the Endeavour very interesting

I will enjoy following you though as it should prove a good build to follow

Gratz for winning the longboat, I bet that will be a good one to build and in fact a good one to do at the same time

Not that I am trying to push you or anything

Course not   

 

Keep it up   

Mick

Edited July 9, 2013 by Micklen32

[st george]

Thanks Mick. Hope to get some more photos up this weekend. Still have the lid open on the longboat

[texxn5]

very nice, the Bounty is a fascinating ship, and I look forward to following your build.

[johnlad]

i am also building the hms bounty but when it comes to roping there is very little indication of what colour or thickness of the ropes ime beginning to think it a very old kit. can anyone help.

[johnlad]

i am also building the amati hms bounty scale 1/60 but i am having trouble with the roping as there is very little indication in my instruction booklet to what colour or thickness of the ropes i am beginning to think it may be a older kit. can anyone help.

[AngeloM]

Hi Johnlad,

                  I was given the model "HMS Bounty" as a gift.  I was very happy about it at first, as I always wanted to build a sailing ship.  My happiness was cut short after I opened the box, as when I saw the instructions and the "how to" build that ship I could not manage much especially now that I am nearing the rigging part. Yes, I managed to build the hull even though there's not much clear instructions how to build it. To cut a long story short Amati's models are not made and sold to those who like me don't have experience. In other simple words "beginners" like us but they are made for those who have.(experience). Now I lost all the enthusiasm and it's a pity as I am at a loss where to start and finish this ship. One last word is, that the whole project fails as there are no indications at all which strips of wood and thread etc., etc, are there for that particular place.

                 But, like you if someone gives us some help I may change my mind and finish it.

                 regards  

                 AngeloM

[joemckairnes]

Hey guys, new to the Amati Bounty kit - just started.  Wondering if it's just me - how do I tell which planking is which?  when it says .5X4MM im thinking thats the dimensions, but no reference as to which length is which.....  Just starting to plank the lower deck.....  Appreciate the guidance on how to properly identify the planking strips!

[donrobinson]

Typically deck planks are cut into shorter lengths or even  if you are planning on planking with one single plank for each strake(row) a good rule of thumb is to use the shortest strips possible

[Jim Rogers]

Click on the “More” button at the top and go to articles data base. Under planking you will find a great article on Butt shift deck planking. It will answer all you questions.