riverboat Posted August 31, 2013 Share #61 Posted August 31, 2013 I KNEW it! Only took 5 pages and we're back in 'Wild Kingdom'. Ah well, such is the stuff of life (and MSW). Augie....... that was funny ..... nice start on your Confed too!! augie 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share #62 Posted September 1, 2013 Yes John ---- I noticed. Only thing I can do is work faster (which is the opposite of what I had planned).......and try to outrun the fauna and flora . With that in mind, here's the latest update: CHAPTER ONE is completed. I promised Sjors a picture of the rabbet so here we see it completed now near the stem: I can't label the photo but I think it's easy to see how the laser drawn line on the bulkhead former (the lighter wood) has been slightly tapered down to meet the 1/8 x 1/16 rabbet strip and then the stem sits on that. The result is we have a nice clean, uniform slot which is the rabbet. This extends from stem to stern and shall be where the edge of the garboard plank (as well as the ends of the remaining planks) sit. EASY -- and no carving involved. In addition to the stem and keel now being fitted, here's a detail I like: The keel uses 2 vertical scarph joints along it's length. On the 1:1 ship, these were bolted together. Here, we've simulated those bolts with #70 drilled holes filled with tinted wood putty. This technique is similar to what I will be using for treenailing. Here's a photo of where we currently stand. Note that the false keel has been fitted and that the stem and keels have been stained. Using Minwax products, I first pre-stain then stain using a mixture of 50% 'Natural' and 50% Light Oak. This process will be used numerous times throughout the build. I generally apply several coats of WOP later on. Finally, things wouldn't be complete without introducing my infamous 'one size fits all' keel clamp ---- AKA the Dremel mini work stand. It holds her firmly and straightly in place as we proceed. I know SJORS also uses one but I got mine back when they were $ 9 (US) and I still had hair. Today is our 40th Anniversary so no more building is on the docket. But the next step will be fitting the 16 bulkheads and to say I'm looking forward to that is an understatement. All stay well maddog33, Script, CAd My Fingers and 10 others 13 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted September 1, 2013 Share #63 Posted September 1, 2013 Hi Augie and congrats on the 40th. It's good to see that you are going to keep the former clamped to make sure you don't get any warpage, it's such a long piece of ply that it has a tendency to do just that! I remember Chris had issues with that. I didn't take my Confed out of the clamp until all the gunport and sweep port framing was complete, pretty solid by then! Take your time getting all the bulkheads perfectly square and perpendicular, your gunport framing will be wrong if they are not perfect. Look forward to seeing that point. Ben augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted September 1, 2013 Share #64 Posted September 1, 2013 Nice work Augie. As a veteran of 51 of them, I can only tell you that the best anniversaries are yet to come. Happy anniversary. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAd My Fingers Posted September 2, 2013 Share #65 Posted September 2, 2013 Beautiful start, Augie, but even more importantly, congratulations to you and your wife! Forty years is wonderful--my hat's off to you both! Jay augie 1 Quote Current Build: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share #66 Posted September 2, 2013 A little progress to report (need to stay ahead of the buffalo herd ). The 16 bulkheads were removed from the laser cut sheets: Note the cutouts on the starboard side of the two near the top center. This will be an opening in the finished hull where the 'framing' will be exposed. The laser cutting on these pieces was quite intense. I lightly sanded them all around but have left some laser char as I find this helps me later during the fairing process. However, the slots on these bulkheads and also the bulkhead former were completely cleaned in order to obtain a secure glue bond. The slots were also just a tad 'tight'. Here, the bulkheads have been dry fit into the former: The last photo shows that the alignment is pretty good for a dry fit: Now we will square and level everything as we permanently glue in the bulkheads. But the fish are calling so we'll be back in a day or so. In the meanwhile ---- STAY THE COURSE hamilton, realworkingsailor, Script and 8 others 11 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted September 2, 2013 Share #67 Posted September 2, 2013 Try and stay calm Andy, your turn will come! Ben Sjors, realworkingsailor and augie 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxboat Posted September 2, 2013 Share #68 Posted September 2, 2013 Hope you have as much fun with your build of this beauty as I am having with mine. Based on my experience I really recommend installing the safety temporary timbers between the bulkhead "horns". They are very very fragile Best Jaxboat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted September 2, 2013 Share #69 Posted September 2, 2013 Instant ship (almost)! Great start, Augie! John svein erik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share #70 Posted September 2, 2013 John- yes, 'poof', a ship ! This part is easy---it's like framing an airplane. The real work is down the road, as you well know. Jax -- thanks for the opinion on the temporary safety timbers. Knowing me, they will probably be worth the time. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted September 2, 2013 Share #71 Posted September 2, 2013 WE will square and level everything??? Rather regal sounding.. or are you cross training the spiders? You are all doing a great job, sir, and a belated happy anniversary! augie 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted September 3, 2013 Share #72 Posted September 3, 2013 That is an impressive model! And you are off to a very good start! Thomas augie 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted September 3, 2013 Share #73 Posted September 3, 2013 Your progress is looking great as always. I can't wait to see more. I hope you had better luck fishing than I have had lately. augie 1 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 3, 2013 Share #74 Posted September 3, 2013 DARN IT!!!!! I did it again! I failed to see the extra pages at the bottom......that's what I get for looking in during the wake-up! I hope you had a great annaversary......{missed that too......DooooUGH!}. nice progress you've made......I like that rabbit idea.......wonder if that can be adapted for other kit builds........experimentation needed {right up my alley}. laser cut on those parts looks nice too..... augie and mobbsie 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted September 3, 2013 Share #75 Posted September 3, 2013 Popeye, I am planning on incorporating the rabbet idea on my Constitution if I ever get started on her. Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted September 3, 2013 Share #76 Posted September 3, 2013 Augie, It would appear that your log is spinning out into yonder open spaces and is boldly going where no log has gone before, where have I heard that before. Good luck and " Bon Voyage " mobbsie Sjors, popeye the sailor and riverboat 3 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #77 Posted September 3, 2013 Thanks Mobbsie. I try to keep us on course. But the journey wouldn't be so much fun without the diversions. Oh, that 1/16th" rabbet strip on a 1:64 means an adjustment of 4" full scale.. I'm fine with that but Patrick better keep it in mind for his Constitution. I'd hate to have him clip his mainmast going under a bridge . More glue, Igor. There's a LOT of bulkheads here! Trussben 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 5, 2013 Share #78 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Yeah.. I think we ought to take up a collection and treat Anja to good meal.... to enjoy as she sees fit. Edited September 5, 2013 by realworkingsailor Anja and mtaylor 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted September 5, 2013 Share #79 Posted September 5, 2013 Anja is happy with that Andy ! Shall I give her account number????????? lambsbk 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share #80 Posted September 6, 2013 I promised you a side by side photo of the after market items I ordered from Chuck. Well, they're HERE! I think they are terrific but you can judge for yourselves. First, the cannons. There are 2 sizes: I'm sure you can appreciate the difference between the brass guns (and trunions) and the cast brittania metal. They look so good I'm already getting comments from the Admiral that I should forget the 20 coats of paint (thanks BEN) and leave them as is !!!! Then we have the figurehead: Again, just much finer all around. The bottom line ---- well worth the investment. I'm a happy puppy :) popeye the sailor, riverboat, Rustyj and 18 others 21 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted September 6, 2013 Share #81 Posted September 6, 2013 Wow, those are really nice Augie.....that should be an outstanding improvement to details...... augie and hrivera 2 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted September 6, 2013 Share #82 Posted September 6, 2013 Salute Augie, Fantastic ship, very nice start... Sure this will be the most famous build log... Already 11th page... 89 pages remaining... Ahoy Andy... augie 1 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted September 6, 2013 Share #83 Posted September 6, 2013 Those are some sweet looking upgrades. I will be ordering the cannons down the road as well. I always like the MS kits but their Britannia metal disappoints me. Chuck 1 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 6, 2013 Share #84 Posted September 6, 2013 it's the old thing about quality VS cost.....those cannons look sweet! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted September 6, 2013 Share #85 Posted September 6, 2013 Hi Augie, Great stuff you've got over there.... I'm happy for you that you don't have to paint (20 layers) all those cannons. But are you painting the figure head? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted September 6, 2013 Share #86 Posted September 6, 2013 Hi Augie, The cannons and figurehead look very nice. I will have to look on Chuck's web site to see if he has guns suitable for the Niagara. texxn5 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 6, 2013 Share #87 Posted September 6, 2013 The way I look at it, it's a small price to pay for a simple upgrade that does wonders for the final appearance. Andy augie, mtaylor, texxn5 and 3 others 6 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share #88 Posted September 6, 2013 Hi Augie, Great stuff you've got over there.... I'm happy for you that you don't have to paint (20 layers) all those cannons. But are you painting the figure head? I didn't say I was going to listen to the Admiral ---- but I am tempted Yes Sjors, the figurehead will be painted. The current gray color might look ok if I slapped him on the bow of an Aegis cruiser.....not so good on 1700's frigate Sjors and Dubz 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted September 6, 2013 Share #89 Posted September 6, 2013 Augie - add as many coats of paint or not as you wish, it's your build and I'm certain it will look awesome. Ben augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBorgens Posted September 7, 2013 Share #90 Posted September 7, 2013 Audie, I have to admit I'm with Sjors, more pictures! Reading your log is like sitting in the living room talking to many friends and I love it for just that reason. So please, keep chatting all, and let's toast the 100 page mark (sooner than later). BTW, nice purchase from Chuck, the quality shows. I'm definitely upgrading guns when the time comes. Dave B augie 1 Quote Current build: HMS Pegasus, English Pinnace (on hold) Completed build: MS Bluenose, Skippercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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