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Hi, my name is Rod Chima. I started building the Model Shipways Syren back on Jan. 2, 2013, and started posting a Model Ship World build log about a month later. I was learning so much by reading other build logs, and I hoped that my postings might help someone else. It sure was disappointing to lose all that information with the recent hard drive crash, but I did find my posts cached on Google and will try to recreate them here.
 
I am a rocket scientist recently retired from NASA Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio. If you are interested in computational fluid dynamics you can check out my work web site,

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/5810/rvc/

I have built stick and tissue model airplanes since I was 8 years old, and a few ship models when I was in high school and college. But the ship models were SO much work that I swore that I would never build another. Then I went to a hobby show at the Cleveland International Exposition Center and saw Chuck's magnificent Syren kit. The guys from Model Expo made me an offer that I couldn't refuse, and here I am.
 
I am about 90 hours (over 1 month) into the kit, and have the hull and deck planked. More on that soon, but first some previous builds.
 
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I wish I could take credit for this model, but it was built by my Grandfather in 1933. I still have his original plans and construction article from Popular Science. I did some major restoration work on the model when I inherited it about 10 years ago.
 
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I received the Flying Fish kit by Model Shipways as a high school graduation gift in 1969, and I was working on it when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. It got pretty banged up over the years, so last summer I made some repairs and replaced most of the running rigging. I also built the display case shown in the photo. It is my own design and is built from walnut and plexiglass.
 
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My girlfriend went to New England in 1970 and brought me this kit of the brig Hurricane Bird by Hobbies at Home. It must have been the right gift because we've been married for 38 years.
 
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The plans for this Roman bireme ship by Mantua Models clearly shows an open stonework castle on the deck. I could never figure out why you would want one there, but I dutifully followed the plans. This was the only planked hull that I had made before I planked the Syren.

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I bought the Syren kit in mid October, and told my wife it was my Christmas present from her. I started building after the holidays on Jan. 2. It is now 28 days and 95 man-hours later, and I have a planked hull and deck.

 

I will add a few intermediate photos below, and try to touch on topics that other builders have overlooked.

 

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I made the base and filler  blocks out of 3/4" basswood.

6 days, 21 man-hours

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Glue
All of my construction has been done with gap-filling cyanoacrylate (CA) glue. I use the replaceable Teflon nozzles, make a thin bead, and hold pieces in place with my fingers. If you don't wait too long you can always peel your fingers free and clean up with acetone later. (My wife has a HUGE bottle of pure acetone for removing nail polish.)

 

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Here the hull is planked, sanded, and filled. I thought I had done a good job of sanding but I filled the wood with 2 coats of Behlen water-based grain filler (available from Woodcraft.com) anyway. This stuff has the consistency of yoghurt, it dries quickly, and it sands off easily. I was amazed at how many cracks and depressions it found! You can see the white areas in the photo. The black paint above the waterline is very smooth, and I am sure that the copper foil will look great below.

 


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27 days, 95 man-hours

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Rod-  nice to have you back on the Forum.  And it's always nice to have another Syren :) .

 

I'll be following.  Keep that acetone handy !!!!!

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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Paint
I have used Testor's Model Master enamels for everything so far. Their Insignia Red seems to be a good match for the inside of the hull.

 

Noted added later - the enamels chip off easily. I have completely switched to Testor's acrylics, except where I need to match the original red.

 

In the photo below the deck is planked and stained. I marked the tree nails on the outer hull with a mechanical pencil, and I think they look pretty good. I still have to mark the deck and add the waterways.

 

Today I was Googling for "ponce wheel" to find a shortcut for the copper plates. Then I spotted Thomas' build log with his beautiful stamped plates. Now I think I'll have to give that a try. I have used a lot of that copper foil for stained glass projects, one of my other hobbies. With stained glass the copper foil all gets soldered together. On the bottom of a ship model it is totally exposed. Is anyone concerned about it falling off in 40 years? - Not that I'll be around that long :?

 

Note added later - I have since found many posts attesting to the durability of the copper foil, although I did manage to tear a couple of plates when I added a brass pedestal base.

 

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27 days, 95 man-hours

 

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Here I added a note on the tools that I have found most useful so far. I have since discovered other forums to share information about tools, so hope it's OK to digress here.

 

Wood carver's chisel
At first I tried cutting my planks with an X-acto razor saw, but that was slow and left a rough edge. Then I realized that I could chop them to length in one motion with a wood carver's chisel. It works perfectly on 1/8 inch strips.

 

Dremel tool with sanding drum
How do you thin out the inside of the bulwarks? With a Dremel tool and sanding drum. It also worked well for trimming extra material off the transom.

 

Fine wire clippers
Need a quick and dirty way to cut a 1/8 inch plank? Use these clippers from Sears, then clean up later with sandpaper.

 

Proxxon disk sander
You can get his neat little disk sander from Woodcraft or Amazon. It is pricey, but great for cleaning up cuts on thicker stock. Be careful with parts smaller than the gap between the table and the disk.

 

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I can't believe I have finished copper plating the hull already. It only took 15 hours, start to finish.

 

I made the stamps by pounding tiny brass pins directly into the end grain of a block of 3/4 inch cherry. The plans call for 11/16 inch, but 3/4 is so much easier. I clamped a metric ruler to the block, and spaced the pins every 2 mm. I rough clipped the pins with the wire clippers mentioned above, flooded the end grain with thin CA, sanded the pins to the same length with my disk sander, and sliced the block to size on a band saw. 2 hours per stamp.

 

I made a stamping jig pretty much like Chuck described in the kit instructions. One tap with a tack hammer, pull, tap again. 45 min. to tap 375 plates and another 45 min. to cut them apart with scissors. 1.5 hours per side of the hull.

 

Grab a plate, pop an X-acto knife into the long edge, stick the copper to the end, peel off the backing, and place lightly on the hull. 5-10 sec. per plate. This was the most fun I've had on this model so far - just like playing with Legos. :)

 

After laying down an area of plates I burnished them with the rounded piece of balsa shown in the second photo.
 

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29 days, 110 man-hours

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Here are some views of the plated hull. In extreme close up the nail patterns aren't as precise as some of the others I've seen in the MSW forums, but in general I am very pleased with the way the model looks.

 

I have several kinds of chemicals used to add patina to stained glass leading. I could easily change the look of the hull, but I kind of like the shiny copper. Please let me know if this this is unrealistic practically or historically, and I will reconsider.

 

Now - off to build a rudder.

 

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And that's where I left off before the site went down. Since then I have built a rudder, sweep port lids, gun port doors, and a temporary base. I am now working on the head rails, which are impossibly small to carve.

 

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6 weeks, 125 man-hours

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Question about eyebolts

 

The eyebolts supplied with the MSW kit seem to be a much finer gauge than those shown in other build logs. They are also a pain to paint. Is everyone else rolling their own from wire, or is there somewhere that I can order 350 nice black eyebolts?

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I went ahead and treated them with Blacken-it.  Works fairly well.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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Looking great.   Nice job on the plating...that came out particularly well!!

 

Chuck

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I am getting the itch to work on my Syren. there is so much good work to draw from thanks!

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

Its a sailor's Life for me! :10_1_10:

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It's been a while since my last post. I finished the headrails and the exterior of the ship. The headrails were hard to build. I tried carving double mouldings on the upper rails like Chuck showed, but gave up and used single mouldings on the lower rails. I decided to paint my figurehead. She looks like she has a black eye in the photo, so I suppose she needs some makeup!

 

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6.5 weeks, 136 man-hours

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More on eyebolts

 

In an earlier post I asked if anyone thought that the brass eyebolts supplied with the MSW kit were too small, and asked for suggestions about painting them. Augie recommended Blacken-it. I tried using similar chemicals that are used to patina stained glass but had problems with the patina flaking off the eyebolts. I ended up ordering the only black eyebolts I could find from http://www.modelshipyard.com.au/

You can see them compared to the MSW eyebolts in the photo, They are beautifully made, but just a little bigger than I would like. I decided to use them anyway.

 

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Left: eyebolts supplied with the kit

Right: eyebolts ordered from Modellers' Shipyard

 


Cannons (Cannonades)

 

I don't know if the discussion on cannons has been reposted but I'm glad that I saw it earlier. Alert builders realized that the cannons suppled with the MSW kit do not look quite like those on the plans. I went ahead and ordered 16 appropriate cannons from Bluejacket Shipcrafters.

http://www.bluejacketinc.com/

They were expensive but I like them a lot better than the originals.

 

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Left: cannon supplied with the MSW kit

Right: cannon bought from Bluejacket Shipcrafters

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My first major SNAFU

 

I ran into a very unplesant surprise when I completed my first cannon and set it on the deck - it didn't fit! Somehow I cut the gun ports too close to the deck. I even cut out the little paper gun and checked it on the rear ports, but never on the side. I should look back in the instructions to see how it happened, but it's too late now.

 

The only solution is to omit the swivel brackets from the front of the cannon sleds, and the wheels from the rear.  The guns end up centered in the ports. The front of the sleds hit the waterway, and the end of the guns end up about flush with the outside edge of the ports. Can anyone tell me how far the guns should extend beyond the edge of the ports? Should I notch the waterways and push the guns up to the rails?

 

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8 weeks, 162 man-hours

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Eyebolts and carronades both look like a good choice.

 

On the issue of the carronades, I'd wait to hear Chuck's opinion.  I can tell you this much.  Using the standard carronades from MS, the muzzle extends out about 3/32" from the edge of the caprail.when viewed from the dead overhead position.  This puts it about 1/8" beyond the hull planking.  But in looking at your photos I'm going to guess that the MS carronade is just a little longer than your new ones.  Of course I could be wrong there as I'm simply measuring the distance from the muzzles to the leading edge of the carronade sleds here on my computer screen .

 

Again, seek out Chuck's opinion before you notch the waterways.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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A little trick I use on eye bolts - I used to do as you did and buy them for the size I wanted. But now all I do is make them. This started when I had trouble with eye bolts in the deck pulling loose when the rigging was tight. Now I take a small pair of needle nose pliers and wire of the proper diameter. Then I cut a length of wire and bend it in to s long U shape. I grab the top of the U with the Needle nose and twist. The result is an eye bolt that has the size of eye I want. I can twist more and get a smaller eye. I also get the benefit of the eye bolt shaft having a spiral in it. this give more surface to glue with and it holds in the wood much better. It doesn't pull out when rigging. The final step is to trim the twisted shaft to the desired length.

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

Its a sailor's Life for me! :10_1_10:

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As far as your carronades sitting too high in the ports - I remember that problem with the Bluejacket carronades from an earlier Syren build log, it was on pg 9 of Rafine's build log (I made a note in my practicum at the time). I ran across it again yesterday on Google, I think under images for "24lb carronade" but damned if I can't find it now. Anyway, Rafine fixed the problem by modifying the lug on the bottom of the barrel to lower it closer to the sled. Looking at the pix of your completed carronade it looks like you have a lot of room to lower the barrel, probably enough to put the trucks back on and avoid messing with the waterways. Worth a try. 

Tim

 

Current build: Continental Navy Frigate ALFRED (build log)                      

Past builds:     Steam Tug SEGUIN (build log in the kits 1850-1900 section)       

                         Liberty Ship SS Stephen Hopkins (Gallery & Build Log)

                         USS Basilone (DD-824) (Gallery & Build Log)

                         USS Olympia (Gallery)

                         USS Kirk (FF-1087) (Gallery & Build Log)

 

 

                        

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Yes, you could 'lower' the carronades with some trimming of the guns but I'm worried about your waterway sticking up above the lower gunport sill when viewed from the outside.  You can't lower the deck now and you may be forced to notch some of the waterway.  You still have to install the wheels/casters on the aft end of the gun sleds.

 

Chuck will chime in I'm sure.  If not you might consider sending him a PM.

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Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

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Here is my 2 cents worth on your issues:

 

Eye bolts: I would go with the smaller ones as they are more scale appropriate, and experiment a little with getting them black. Here you have at least 2 good choices, painting and oxidizing (Blacken it).

 

Painting works fine if you use the right paints. Normally paints which are designed for wood are in my experience not so well suited for metal. However, all the paints designed for plastic models normally also stick pretty well to metal. If you use the paint in a diluted fashion so that it does not cover up the details (here it would be the hole of the bolt) and apply several coats you should get good results.

 

Blacken it should work fine, too. Nearly everybody has to deal with the flaking effect at the beginning. To avoid that you have to make sure that the part you want to blacken is fat free and clean. To insure this put it in aceton (you can get this at Lowes), rins it thoroughly with water afterwards, and always use tweezers as to not contaminate the part again. Then put the part in a dilution of Blacken it (something like 1 part Blacken it, 2 parts water) and let it stay there until it is black. Due to the dilution the oxidization will go much slower and the build up of the black coat will be far more homogeneous and not flaky. Afterwards rins it carefully in water again to stop the reaction. Without that your part may disintegrate in a few years because of ongoing corrosion.

 

Gun ports: This clearly is not a simple issue and may need some more involved correction work. Manipulating the guns probably will not get you there. In my opinion one resolution could be to build up the gun ports. By this I mean add about half a plank to the lower edge of each gun port (--> this should give you the needed height for your carronades) and remove about that much at the upper edge of the gun port. At least on your pictures you seem to have enough space left without having to change the hand rails. Now, obviously such a correction would be clearly visible at the outside of your Syren. The solution for that would be to paint the hull with ogre paint. As far as I know most of these ships were painted like this anyway, so you would not do anything which is historically incorrect. Actually, there was one build log in the past where somebody chose to do so right from the beginning, and he ended up with a magnificent Syren model. Also all the models from Caldercraft as well as a lot of museum models are painted like this. So this suggestion may sound like a lot of work, but once you look at the details it is perfectly doable and a comprehensive way of getting rid of your problems completely. 

 

Thomas

Current Built:   Model Shipways  Syren  (US Brig 1803)

 

Last Built:        Anfora (kit bashed)  Ictineo II  (1st steam powered submarine 1864)

 

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As an after thought . . .  you may be able to hide most of the repair work behind your lower gun port lids. So as long as you don't have to correct the closed ports (for a balanced view) you may be able to do it without painting the hull.

 

Thomas 

Current Built:   Model Shipways  Syren  (US Brig 1803)

 

Last Built:        Anfora (kit bashed)  Ictineo II  (1st steam powered submarine 1864)

 

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Completed Cannonades

 

Well, the cannonades are built, installed, and rigged. You can see that I ignored most of your cries for historical and scale accuracy by using the larger eyebolts, by placing the sleds on the deck without wheels, and by notching the waterways so that the gun barrels would protrude outboard a little more. Thank you for all the excellent suggestions, but I doubt that anyone who ever sees the model will know the difference.

 

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9 weeks, 182 man-hours

 

I bundled the ropes on deck instead of making the coils shown in the plans. The bundles looked better to me. It took 18 hours to rig the cannonades after they were built and installed

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Hull complete except for longboat

I spent the last couple of weeks working on deck fittings, so my hull is complete except for the longboat. Augie's build log shows the hull, longboat, and bowsprit, jibboom, and flying jibbom complete at about 800 hours. I figure that I am building 2.5 times faster than him at about 1/5 the quality! :D

 

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10.5 weeks, 226 man-hours

 

Here are some detailed views>

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The stern cannons were fun but the companionway was a pain. It is thin, flimsy, and didn't want to stay square. It could be better.

 

The hammock cranes seemed very flimsy, but when I got the 1/16" x 1/32" rail pressed into place it firmed up. Tying the netting in place was literately a pain in the back. I had to stick my face right into it to see what I was doing. And the photos show every thread that I didn't cut clean off! Guess I need to go back for the nail cutters.

 

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The main fife rail was hard to make by laminating 1/32 " stock. It would be better to cut it from 1/16" ply. The stanchions were easy to turn in a Dremel tool, but I wish they had been supplied as castings with pins on the ends.

 

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The gratings were fun. The pieces fit together perfectly.

 

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If I ever have granddaughters I can start making doll houses.

 

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Lots of trip hazards on this ship. It would never pass OSHA standards.

 

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I can't believe that I built a ladder to hide inside this thing! If you're building the Syren, just build the companionway with the door closed.

 

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I never expected a periscope on the Syren. :)

 

Now I get to put the Syren aside and build the 25' longboat, a kit within a kit.

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Well done....That is a very nice Syren.  I love your figure at the helm.   Nice touch!!!

 

Chuck

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