michael mott Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share #631 Posted October 11, 2016 Hi Don, I struggled getting info about the engine, This website Has some useful info, it took a little digging but there is a lot there. Regarding the builders of the era you mention, again I had spent a great deal of time searching The wooden boat forum was a good resource. Lawrence, thanks for your compliments, I'm down with a flu like cold right now and managed to get my big boat out last Sunday, after a San Juan 28 mast crashed onto the fore-deck punching a hole and smashing the mahogany Coaming....my sailing season ended with a bang as they say. It looks like we will be here for another winter, so I hope to get some time in the shop again soon, I have a project coming up that involves a restoration, it will give me a little pocket money and I will start a log of it when I pick it up next week. Now back to bed. Michael IgorSky, ggrieco, cog and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 11, 2016 Share #632 Posted October 11, 2016 I hesitate to push the 'like' button on seeing the damage caused by the errant mast. Presumably the owner of said mast will compensate you for this. Look forward to more from the Mott Shop. Chasseur, mtaylor, ggrieco and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share #633 Posted October 12, 2016 Hi Druxey, yes the owners insurance will cover the cost of repair work, it will also give me the opportunity to make a couple of modifications to the area where the mast and coaming go over the fore-deck. It just was not something I was planning for the early spring. The boat is now cocooned for the winter under tarps. Michael druxey, Jack12477, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 12, 2016 Share #634 Posted October 12, 2016 Get better soon. Looking forward to your restoration project. Cheers ggrieco and Omega1234 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 12, 2016 Share #635 Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) ouch! how in the heck did that happen?!?!?!?! I'm sure you'll get 'er sorted out before time to put here back into the water second that.......get better! can't wait to see what the project is Edited October 12, 2016 by popeye the sailor Chasseur, ggrieco and Omega1234 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 12, 2016 Share #636 Posted October 12, 2016 Nice to see you back on the MSW site and soon to be back in the shop. Bob Bedford, Omega1234, ggrieco and 2 others 5 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share #637 Posted February 12, 2019 I have been working a little on the drawings and trying to sort out the Corel files and putting together some new information. I needed a break from the cold and so have spent the last couple of day re-orienting myself with this little project. Here is a sectional drawing I started on Friday, still a ways to go. I have been studying the photographs that Roger sent me a few years ago. working out the panels for the seating and positioning the motor. Michael G.L., druxey, Jack12477 and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaddoc Posted February 13, 2019 Share #638 Posted February 13, 2019 I am not sure if this project is "little" but I have been patiently waiting for when it would make it near the top of your busy priority list Michael. Looking forward for the rest of this journey. Vaddoc druxey, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share #639 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Hi Vaddoc, yes you are right it is actually rather a challenging one. It was only recently that I learned that Yellow Cypress (which is what this launch was planked with) is also called Yellow Cedar. And I have a local supplier. I think I might take a page out of Keith's book and make a few of the little items that are part of the overall deck fittings, I think that this shot of the bow deck is ripe for all sorts of fun. These are such interesting details. I also Noted that Roger has lined up the screws. (Roger Dyment is the present owner) Michael Edited February 13, 2019 by michael mott add text mtaylor, Bedford, GrandpaPhil and 9 others 12 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted February 14, 2019 Share #640 Posted February 14, 2019 I'll be interested to see how you make some of those parts popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #641 Posted February 14, 2019 Hi Steve I am starting with the bow lamp. I have begun the drawing, I will be using brass sheet. The lamp is 5 inches wide at the back. The king plank is 4 7/8ths wide according to Roger. Michael Omega1234, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted February 14, 2019 Share #642 Posted February 14, 2019 Michael, Another nice project by you. I don’t know if you are copying an actual set of lines but if you are not you may wish to “harden” the bilges to improve initial stability. Roger popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #643 Posted February 14, 2019 Hi Roger Thanks for your thoughts here are the photographs that I used to develop the lines. The bilges seem fairly soft but I am open to a clearer interpretation. I have searched for some lines of this boat, but other than heading out to Muskoka in the spring before Roger puts her back in the water this is all I had to go on. Michael Valeriy V, cog, mtaylor and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORTES Posted February 14, 2019 Share #644 Posted February 14, 2019 Dear Michael, It's with great interest and admiration that i studied Your report of assembling. Your outstanding culture of work performance and virtuoso mastery of metal processing equipment commands deep respect. I wish You strong health and inspiration in Your future work. My best regards, Alexander. mtaylor, Omega1234, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #645 Posted February 14, 2019 Kortes, thank you for you kind words. Further to your comment Roger this site which is for the Windsor boat works is building a new Dispro boat and I used their site as well to gain some insight into the Boats that were built around 1909-1915 Although there were all sorts of new innovations some things changed more slowly. Michael popeye the sailor, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted February 14, 2019 Share #646 Posted February 14, 2019 Michael, In the 1920’s The Herreshoff Manufacturing Company Built a 30ft Tender for J. P. Morgan’s yacht Corsair III. You can find information by googling Corsair HMC Co. #381. This will take you to information held by the Herreshoff Museum. The Hart Museum at MIT owns Herreshoff’s Drawings and their holdings have supposedly been digitized. I also have a SNAME paper about the boat’s recent restoration that includes a drawing with a body plan. If this interests you send me a PM. I realize that this is not the model that you are trying to build but it is a well documented example of a small, well appointed, motor boat from the early 20th Century. Roger popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pearse Posted February 14, 2019 Share #647 Posted February 14, 2019 Hi Michael, regarding the stability stiffness, do you know if the hull is ballasted? mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote completed 1:12 28' Ranger type yacht, scratch build - COMPLETED 1:12 20' 1930 open sailing boat, half model, scratch built - COMPLETED 1:12 24' Ranger type yacht, scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 14, 2019 Share #648 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 7:34 PM, michael mott said: I think that this shot of the bow deck is ripe for all sorts of fun. Jealous - i want to have a go at that light.........and those rails..... popeye the sailor, mtaylor, paulsutcliffe and 1 other 4 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 14, 2019 Share #649 Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, KeithAug said: Jealous - i want to have a go at that light.........and those rails..... Who's stopping you ... popeye the sailor, paulsutcliffe and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 14, 2019 Share #650 Posted February 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, cog said: Who's stopping you Unfortunately "Old Father Time". popeye the sailor, paulsutcliffe and mtaylor 3 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share #651 Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Mark Pearse said: regarding the stability stiffness, do you know if the hull is ballasted? Mark as far as I know the only ballast is the engine and Passengers. 1 hour ago, KeithAug said: Jealous - i want to have a go at that light.........and those rails..... Keith I will think of you as I make them.... how about that? Michael paulsutcliffe, KeithAug, Valeriy V and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share #652 Posted February 15, 2019 While looking for some information about the lamp I came across this site which has some similar lamps and of course the name didn't escape me either. Michael KeithAug, Jack12477, Bedford and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share #653 Posted February 15, 2019 This is the plan for the Bow Lamp. Michael hexnut, druxey, popeye the sailor and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted February 15, 2019 Share #654 Posted February 15, 2019 Michael - are you putting a light source in it? mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share #655 Posted February 15, 2019 Hi Keith yes. My thought is to use a tiny led and make the deck bracket like a bi-metal strip so that when the lamp is pushed onto the part that stands up the front and back of the bracket are separated from each other but do not look that way. The two parts will sandwich an insulated strip. the lenses will be plex Michael KeithAug, Omega1234, Bedford and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share #656 Posted February 16, 2019 Made a start on the lamp turned up the two side lenses. I first machined some 5/16 brass to .284" for the flange then reduced the diameter to .254" then bored out to .246" and parted them off. Then turned down some 3/8 cell cast to .250" and relieved the section that would go into the tube until the tube just began slip on tightly, then pushed it up snug with the tailstock. Next parted off the plex leaving enough to shape for the front curvature with a form tool then polished it with some novus #3 on a bit of white card stock. Michael EdT, GrandpaPhil, hexnut and 11 others 14 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted February 16, 2019 Share #657 Posted February 16, 2019 11 hours ago, michael mott said: This is the plan for the Bow Lamp. Michael I am looking forward to the making process of that lamp. I never saw this model of combined nav lights before. popeye the sailor 1 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 16, 2019 Share #658 Posted February 16, 2019 Do you teach Michael? popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share #659 Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, cog said: Do you teach Michael? Carl, short answer, no. But if you mean "sharing the ways that I do things" as teaching then I suppose you could call it that. It just seems to me that so many members of this forum have taught me so much about model ship building, that it only feels right to pass on some of the things that I do that might be helpful or useful to the other members. Sometimes it feel a bit like showing off but that is not the intent. One of the amazing things to me about this hobby, is that the members who share their knowledge here bring to the table without realizing it all of their own background knowledge, and each profession or workplace job teaches them skills and ways of seeing things that I don't. So in that sense we are all teachers. Thanks for the question Carl Michael Omega1234, cog, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 16, 2019 Share #660 Posted February 16, 2019 Thank you for sharing your rich history, profession, and hobbies michael mott, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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