42rocker Posted March 1, 2014 Share #301 Posted March 1, 2014 I did read some place that Gary keeps his small working crew well supplied with grog. Lots of it. LOL. Gary Your work is outstanding! I sent you a pm about the Warrior pics that I've shared with you. Later Tim Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted March 1, 2014 Share #302 Posted March 1, 2014 GREAT JOB on the and the pumps! Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share #303 Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Thanks Tim, Robin B, Alan and all the likes. Tim I do have to go to the store and buy grog every couple of days, those guys can put away some grog thats for sure. Robin as far as I know the cranks or brakes were made to be locked together when needed and stored when not. Most show it because its a nice detail to show. As far as the scupper holes they probably could have done a couple of things. From most of the research I have done on them they probably had leather flaps on the outside that closed off the opening for most of the smaller scuppers,acting like one way values, and at least for the pump dales scuppers, on the inside fitted with bucklers, flat boards to prevent water from coming in, along with the leather flaps on the outside. From what I can tell most were made up of wood lined with leather or lead pipes that seem to have a curve in them or be at a 25 degree angle from the deck to the outside hull. The plans that are shown at the NMM shows the pipes as being curved and made in two parts to be hooked together. I remember reading about discharging straight on to the deck which would make sense being that there was more scuppers that the water could flow to. Did come across one plan and it had a plug that they used to plug up the scupper with. If you want to look at this it is plan number ZAZ6880. Maybe it was used to help keep the trash out when they were doing field day.Hope this answer you question Robin. Gary Edited March 1, 2014 by garyshipwright Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 1, 2014 Share #304 Posted March 1, 2014 Excellent work Gary it really shows your skill. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted March 2, 2014 Share #305 Posted March 2, 2014 Very very nicer work (as usual) Gary; she is looking great. Always a pleasure to look in on your builds. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share #306 Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks Robin, Michael, and Pat. Its allways nice to hear a good word from you folks. Robin the ideal came from Daniel Victory build, HMS Victory by dafi - To Victory and beyond, in the kit section, who deserve's the credit on this one. If you go to post 157, page 11, he will show you how he made up the bucklers for the end of his pump dales. The bucklers make a lot of sense since thats what they used around the hawse holes and am sure they kept out a ton of water. The other thing about them is it would help lock the ends in place so the pressure of the water going out would keep them from moving all over the place, much like turning on a water hose and not holding on to the end of it. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted March 2, 2014 Share #307 Posted March 2, 2014 Gary, Beautiful, as always. I noticed the tubes between the pump cisterns. I hadn't seen that before. Very nice! I still don't know where my helm port transom is going. I'll keep looking at yours very carefully as a source of inspiration. Best wishes, Mark Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share #308 Posted March 3, 2014 Your very very welcome Robin Hi Mark and thank you. I ran across the tubes between the pump cisterns while researching their make up. Doesn't seem that not all of the cisterns had two dales per side. As far as your helm port sir, am sure you will figure it out. One difference I noticed is that I ran my stern timbers all the way up and you cut your's off at the quarter deck. I found this easier getting them align and hope that when I finally get around to this part that they will help me get every thing stright and level. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1847 Posted March 3, 2014 Share #309 Posted March 3, 2014 Enjoy the photo's folks. Sure we do Gary! Not so many 74´s around to be astonished watching them under construction...Beatiful stern post. Best wishes and happy modelling on March! Daniel. Quote In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliechristo Posted March 3, 2014 Share #310 Posted March 3, 2014 Wow just found your log Gary.. This is ridiculously good.. The sheer amount of work alone is bewildering let alone the quality.. hats off mate.. Ollie Quote Current and 1st build - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3958-hm-colonial-cutter-mermaid-by-ollie-modellers-shipyard/page-47 Second Build -http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6815-hmb-endeavour-by-oliver-al-kit-160-kit-bashrehash-second-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAVIOU Francis Posted March 3, 2014 Share #311 Posted March 3, 2014 Hello Gary,I have read the build log! great work! it's great to be able to follow the evolution of the frame construction of a ship, especially when everything is done with such precision in the manufacture of each item. Francis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share #312 Posted March 3, 2014 Thanks Daniel, Ollie and Francis. It really makes one fill good to hear all of the nice comments from every one. Sharing her build with you folks is has much a joy as building her. Thanks again. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted March 3, 2014 Share #313 Posted March 3, 2014 Seriously wonderful stuff Gary, I just love your build. B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share #314 Posted March 4, 2014 Thanks B.E. Gary Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted May 13, 2014 Share #315 Posted May 13, 2014 Gary Have not seen much posted lately. hope that all is well. Or is it computer problems again? Later Tim Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted May 13, 2014 Share #316 Posted May 13, 2014 Wow! Awesome! Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 13, 2014 Share #317 Posted May 13, 2014 A master`s work Gary, I get excited for so much authentic shipbuilding, it is wonderful ! Nils Jeronimo 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share #318 Posted May 14, 2014 Hello every one and thank you very very much. Your comments mean a lot. Gary 42rocker 1 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted August 14, 2014 Share #319 Posted August 14, 2014 Seems like I am discovering a new master builder every day now.... And that's a very good thing for one who is still seeking to learn as much as possible about this amazing craft. Pulling up a chair. Dave alangr4 1 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted October 17, 2014 Share #320 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) GARY HAVE NOT BEEN BY IN LONG TIME. BUSY WITH OTHER THINGS IN LIFE. JUST BEAUTIFUL PROGRESS ON YOUR MASTERPIECE. MARIO Edited October 17, 2014 by Cap'n Rat Fink Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share #321 Posted November 15, 2014 Thanks Mario and Dave. Mario your so right sir and work has kept me away from Montagu but I do look in on the site, to help me get through those times when there wasn't enough time to do any ship building. Things have eased up a bit the last month and have been working on the stern and the thirty two pounders which have all been installed and have a few more tackles to make up for them. In the mean time the stern upper and lower counter curves have kept me busy trying to get their curves just right. Seems every time I thought I had it right, found a part that didn't look just right and tore it off just to redo it. To me if those curves are not right your eyes lets you know, and every thing else is built upon those curves. So getting them right was high on the list. A make or break sort of item. Some thing that helped was the ideal that I got out of Davids new book the fire ship comet, the quarter gallery berthing piece on page 111. He talks about how he mount this on Comet so figure I would try it. After making 3 of them, I finally manage to make a port and stbd that fit the bill and this in turn help big time in getting her upper and lower counter curves to lay proper. In the process the top plank on the lower counter was a little shy on meeting the rail of the lower counter and had to make a new one. Not glueing the planks in place and held by a small amount of glue on tree nails made pulling it off a lot less nerve racking. One thing about building up the curves of the quarter gallery is figuring out the curve of them. But there is hope for finding their curve at least the one I came up with. English plans only show one pattern for this curve and that is on the quarter deck level, but is bigger then the ones that fit the upper deck. Taking their size off of the stern and sheer view and using the quarter deck pattern one can get it real close in size, which I do believe Montagu is just right. Sorry about the long delay in a up date. Gary Mike Y, Remcohe, Siggi52 and 20 others 23 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share #322 Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Here is a few on the cannon's. Hope you enjoy them. Gary Edited November 15, 2014 by garyshipwright popash42, WackoWolf, druxey and 25 others 28 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 15, 2014 Share #323 Posted November 15, 2014 Beautiful work, Gary. I have a deep appreciation for your statement about the stern being everything. I hope you get some spend some more time in the shipyard as I've always found that it's great therapy after a long stretch at work. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangr4 Posted November 15, 2014 Share #324 Posted November 15, 2014 Stunning work Gary. The lower counter has come up a treat. No problems shaping the ebony? A wonderful build and many thanks for the updates. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted November 15, 2014 Share #325 Posted November 15, 2014 Glad to see you back, Gary. She looks terrific as always. Ed Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 15, 2014 Share #326 Posted November 15, 2014 Great to see you back in the shipyard Gary. Your posts are always such an education! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaerschen Posted November 15, 2014 Share #327 Posted November 15, 2014 I'm pleased to see you back in the shipyard Gary. Great work as always. archjofo 1 Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted November 15, 2014 Share #328 Posted November 15, 2014 Always a pleasure to catch up here! Thank you for showing, Daniel Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share #329 Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Thank's every one and all the likes. Alan the planking on the stern it self is ebony and the curve was not to bad, but when I tried it on the bottom pieces of the quarter gallery, no matter how much I soaked and heated it, it always seem to break, so I switch to pear and blacken them to match up with the ebony. One thing for sure it turns every thing black. Brian hope that the build will help you along in yours. Thanks to Mark there is some photo's of the Warrior model in the Gallery of Contemporary Models from Museums and Private collections that he has taken of the model and the best thing is he takes them through the eyes of a model builder. Should come in real handy thats for sure. Gary Edited November 16, 2014 by garyshipwright alangr4, WackoWolf, Brian the extraordinaire and 1 other 4 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted November 16, 2014 Share #330 Posted November 16, 2014 Good to see your updates again Sir, looking great. Remco Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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