Shipyard sid Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share #241 Posted December 4, 2013 Greetings Lawrence Yes it's about time you left the logs outside and returned to the log inside, and don't you dare drag any wood back in with you to the the shipyard. Thanks for your comments. I was however wrong about the amount of work I needed to do on the bowsprit , there's a few things I missed, but should finish them by tonight. I need to make the foremast yards next. Regards DAVID canoe21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted December 4, 2013 Share #242 Posted December 4, 2013 You are doing an excellent job on your rigging, and thank you for taking the time to show it to us. Keep the pictures coming, they are a great help to all the hate rigging. Shipyard sid 1 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted December 4, 2013 Share #243 Posted December 4, 2013 Your pics show a project so far out of my league. It's nice to see others builds though. Maybe one day I'll do VICTORY. Shipyard sid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gieb8688 Posted December 4, 2013 Share #244 Posted December 4, 2013 Hi David, Thanks for sharing the detailed photos. This is going to be helpful in my HMS Victory restoration! Mark Quote Current Build - 1/78 Sergal HMS Victory Restoration On The Shelf - Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share #245 Posted December 5, 2013 Greetings all Well at last I have finished the bowsprit rigging as far as is possible. I did miss four lots of rigging, that needed fitting, but the rigging I had intended to do has to be fitted after the foremast rigging is completed. This is because the threads are rigged from the bowsprit then under the foremast top and return from under the top and belay back at the forecastle, this would leave six lengths of thread impeding work on the foremast yards. Anyway now I need to start making the foremast yards which will take me a few days at least . I am very happy with the work on the bowsprit apart from some of connections of thread to the blocks ( whatever the term for it is). Ok I need to tidy all the belaying off properly and then away I go to the foremast yards. Thanks again for viewing and all your comments. Here's the last few photos of the the bowsprit, only a few, as you must be the sick of the sight of them. Here we go. Keep enjoying all your builds. DAVID. dafi, mort stoll and canoe21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share #246 Posted December 6, 2013 Greeting Lawrence Thanks a lot for your reply. I think you did ask me before about the sails. There will be no sails on my ship. I think the ship looks better without them. I don't know whether you are going to add the sails but I guess there will be a lot of work for you if you do. So you have more or less finished trimming your bushes and about to return to the yard, and I look forward to seeing your progress. Best wishes DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted December 6, 2013 Share #247 Posted December 6, 2013 Good morning, David. Wow! What a beautiful job. Nothing much more to say except that the time you have put into this project is showing how good you have done. I'm so happy that you are ahead of me so I can copy all the good things you have done. Best to you, David.. Jerry Quote Cutty Sark - Billings- Scale:1:64 HMS Victory - Caldercraft - Scale 1:72 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1951-hms-victory-by-jerry-finished-caldercraft-scale-172-1805-version-wood/ HMS Bounty - Amati - Scale 1:60 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10200-hms-bounty-by-jerrys-admiral-finished-amati-scale-160/&hl= hms bounty jerry#39;s admiral Viking Ship - Amati- Scale - 1:60 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10415-viking-ship-drakkar-by-jerry-finished-amati-scale-150/ Half Moon - Corel - Scale 1:50 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/9065-half-moon-by-jerry-finished-corel-scale-150/&hl=%2Bhalf%2B%2Bmoon%2B%2Bcorel%2B%2Bjerry Bluenose- Model Shipways - Scale: 1:64 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/13649-bluenose-by-jerry-model-shipways-scale-164/&hl=bluenose La Nina - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:65 COMPLETED...7-8-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted December 8, 2013 Share #248 Posted December 8, 2013 I have been reading your build log with great interest and it looks like you have been making a first job of this build. I have just about completed my first ever model boat build which was the AL Scottish Maid. This was very much used as a learning exercise as I really wanted to build HMS Victory. The model has turned out Ok, not bad for a first attempt but could be better. The AL kit did have quite a missing parts such as the outer hull planks, boom jaws, etc. and some of the plans and instructions did not aid the build process. After much research I decided the Caldercraft HMS Victory was the best kit; I am now waiting with baited breath for the kit to arrive from CNB in the next few days. Given it is nearing Xmas, I hope to make a start in earnest in the new year and will use any free time to test build some ideas, such as different methods for deck planning/caulking effects. I plan to start a build log to keep you all updated with my progress and to seek advise as necessary as it seems I can learn a lot from the forum members. Are there any recommended books on model making or HMS Victory? Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted December 8, 2013 Share #249 Posted December 8, 2013 Glennard2523, To answer your question, if you are planning to build Victory, then the "bible" is "Anatomy of Nelson's Ships" by C. Nepean Longridge. Despite its title, it is really about building a model of Victory. The authors model was, until recently, on display in the British Science Museum. Shipyard sid and WackoWolf 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share #250 Posted December 8, 2013 Hello glennard2523 Welcome. Yes as grant said that's the one to buy. I also bought The new period ship hand book. By Keith's Julier . This shows you the complete build of the jotika victory by the author. I think this is a must buy. It's on amazon. Do a thorough check of the kit parts as soon as you receive it. I look forward to you starting your log with your big Xmas box. Regards DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted December 9, 2013 Share #251 Posted December 9, 2013 Many thanks for the info. I had already asked for a copy of The New Period Ship Hand Book as a Xmas present a few weeks ago. I have also asked for HMS Victory Operating Manual and the HMS Victory CD Rom. I may also invest in Anatomy of Nelson's Ships in the new year along Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share #252 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Greetings everyone Well what a wonderfull time I have had NOT had these last couple of nights, the swear box is full. Well this is my first yard ever, and the next build without much doubt is a RAFT !!!!. OK what I have done is make the foreyard and the stun booms. The three components are now fully assembled, and I have added the sling which fits around the mast cap, the truss pendants are fitted , and also the two 10mm jeer blocks. All the blocks are fitted on the yard apart from the two pairs on the photos which are easily fitted on the ends of the yards when the yard is fitted. The yard is shown dry fitted. The rope walk also needs fitting later. I will have a look at the triple jeer blocks and see if fitting them is an option before attaching the yard. I think it is feasible but not sure, any ideas anyone?? So I shall now touch up the paintwork and see what's what. Here's a question for you chaps, if you look at the photo from the plan are the jeer blocks on the drawing fitted upside down or am I wrong??? Thanks for viewing and your comment, all appreciated. Here's some photos. DAVID Edited December 12, 2013 by Shipyard sid JPett, WackoWolf and dafi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted December 12, 2013 Share #253 Posted December 12, 2013 Hello David... You sure look like you know what to do. In fact, as I watch you progress in the rigging phase, I'm getting more frightened with each visit to your log. I'm really not sure if I can handle what you have already accomplished. I'm sure not knowledgeable enough to answer your question regarding the jeer blocks. All I know everything looks very professional so please be ready to answer a lot of questions as I am getting closer and closer to the masting. Hope you have a great night my friend. Jerry Quote Cutty Sark - Billings- Scale:1:64 HMS Victory - Caldercraft - Scale 1:72 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1951-hms-victory-by-jerry-finished-caldercraft-scale-172-1805-version-wood/ HMS Bounty - Amati - Scale 1:60 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10200-hms-bounty-by-jerrys-admiral-finished-amati-scale-160/&hl= hms bounty jerry#39;s admiral Viking Ship - Amati- Scale - 1:60 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10415-viking-ship-drakkar-by-jerry-finished-amati-scale-150/ Half Moon - Corel - Scale 1:50 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/9065-half-moon-by-jerry-finished-corel-scale-150/&hl=%2Bhalf%2B%2Bmoon%2B%2Bcorel%2B%2Bjerry Bluenose- Model Shipways - Scale: 1:64 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/13649-bluenose-by-jerry-model-shipways-scale-164/&hl=bluenose La Nina - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:65 COMPLETED...7-8-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted December 12, 2013 Share #254 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi David, I don't think your Jeer blocks are upside down. As you only have holes at one end of the blocks, they should be at the end furthest from the falls, which is how I'm seeing yours. The attached picture is from Longridge's book and might help. WackoWolf 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share #255 Posted December 14, 2013 Greetings everyone Once again thanks for viewing and all your comments. I have completed all the necessary work on the foremast Yard and it is now fitted. The jeer blocks are fitted the opposite way to which they are shown on the plans, which is something I questioned. Both Grant and Lawrence agreed with me on this detail and it can be clearly seen on both of there photos. The sling is fitted from the yard to the mast cap and the two truss pendants are fitted and belayed to the deck and mast cleat as you can see from the photos. That takes care of the yard rigging in the central area of the yard, and the next job will be to secure the upper jeer blocks to the mast and then connecting the upper and lower blocks together. There's not a lot to see really on the photos, but here's a few for you to see and it's back to the much of a muchness. Thanks a lot here we go . DAVID dafi, keelhauled, canoe21 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted December 14, 2013 Share #256 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Hello David, What you have accomplished is surely very impressive. It's easy to see why so many hours are necessary to build this beautiful model. I'm very happy for you and that you are working your way through this complicated stage of your build so nicely. I look forward to seeing more of your work as you continue with the rigging. Take good care.. Jerry Edited December 14, 2013 by Jerry Quote Cutty Sark - Billings- Scale:1:64 HMS Victory - Caldercraft - Scale 1:72 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1951-hms-victory-by-jerry-finished-caldercraft-scale-172-1805-version-wood/ HMS Bounty - Amati - Scale 1:60 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10200-hms-bounty-by-jerrys-admiral-finished-amati-scale-160/&hl= hms bounty jerry#39;s admiral Viking Ship - Amati- Scale - 1:60 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10415-viking-ship-drakkar-by-jerry-finished-amati-scale-150/ Half Moon - Corel - Scale 1:50 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/9065-half-moon-by-jerry-finished-corel-scale-150/&hl=%2Bhalf%2B%2Bmoon%2B%2Bcorel%2B%2Bjerry Bluenose- Model Shipways - Scale: 1:64 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/13649-bluenose-by-jerry-model-shipways-scale-164/&hl=bluenose La Nina - Artesania Latina - Scale 1:65 COMPLETED...7-8-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share #257 Posted December 16, 2013 Greetings all Well continuing with work on the fore mast, the upper jeer blocks are fitted and they form a tackle with the lower jeer blocks that is belayed on the post of the foremast bitt . When you fit the upper jeer blocks they are secured by a thread which links to the mast head lashings. I have added two photos of these lashings from the plans, which involves seven turns of thread through the cleat on the mast post on the starboard and port side which is really awkward with all the rigging about. There's no need to wait till this stage to fit these lashings, you can fit them when you make the masts. Well I am now directed to the fitting of the fore top mast yard by the manual, so it's out with the david plane, sandpaper and needle files. Thanks a lot for viewing and your comments, here's a few photos. DAVID JPett and dafi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean clipper Posted December 16, 2013 Share #258 Posted December 16, 2013 Hello David A very nice job indeed those pictures of plans are they jotikas,asking because i am sure mine not like that.i have just completed the rigging you are ahead of me now,going to take breather then make the yards.Is surprising how even one yard alters the look of the build,well done mate. DEREK Quote current build HMS Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted December 16, 2013 Share #259 Posted December 16, 2013 That looks incredible. Keep posting. I'm sure us out here in internet land all agree that we can't get enough pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share #260 Posted December 20, 2013 Greeting all Well the making of the fore top mast yard was my next step . But alas disaster struck!!! I dropped a box while getting it off the top of the wardrobe that is in the shipyard , and smashed of the the top of the foremast as you can see on the photo. I got very lucky as all of the rigging around the area stayed secure , and I only had to entangle it. I have done a repair job with a 1mm brass splint which is ok, but could be better . I will tidy up the area around the break if I think it needs to be later. So it would have been more or less impossible to fit any yards with the break not repaired with all the rigging lines about, which are in the way at times and easily caught and pulled about . I then decided to fit the topgallant yard which I have just finished tonight. The yard is pinned in position and a tye is secured to the centre of the yard. The thread runs up the mast and though a hole drilled through the mast and down slightly below the top mast cap were a double block is secured. A tackle is then formed using a block secured on the fore top . The fall is then secured to a pin on the bowline bitt . The yard itself is also secured using parallal beads. So now I can start to making of fore top mast yard and complete the fitting of the fore mast yards. Once again thanks a lot for your comments and for viewing. Ok here's some photos which include the broken mast. Here we go . Cheers DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted December 20, 2013 Share #261 Posted December 20, 2013 Ouch David! What bad luck! Looks like you've done a nice recovery though. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share #262 Posted January 2, 2014 Greetings everybody Happy new year you to you all. Well at last I have finished all the yards on the fore mast, apart from fitting the two rings of parallel beads. So the next step will to fit them and the rigging to the yard which I shall start tomorrow, and this looks a nice little job. I may have a go at fitting some of that hammock netting which I have managed to find in town. One thing I have noticed is that at this stage builds such as Gil's and grants have more rigging on than I am instructed to fit.There is rigging fitted to reach the ends of the yards and I am not instructed to fit it yet. I think a little bit of impatience is creeping in as I want to fit it. Anyway I will go with the book as it seems to be working for me and is a lot simpler than I thought it was going to be. Anyway that's me for now, and I will post again when the rigging is fitted to finish off this mast. Thanks for viewing and your comments. Here's some photos. DAVID Kevin, canoe21, gjdale and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted January 2, 2014 Share #263 Posted January 2, 2014 Hi David Happy New Year to you and your family. You have done an amazing build so far. Congratulations. Many thanks also for your support and valuable advice. Glenn Shipyard sid 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted January 2, 2014 Share #264 Posted January 2, 2014 Looking very good David. It's interesting to see the different approaches to rigging among us as a group of modellers - much as it would have been among the various ship's Captains. Shipyard sid and Kevin 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragzz Posted January 3, 2014 Share #265 Posted January 3, 2014 hi dave looking vary nice iam not forword to the rigging part of my build lol keep up the great work Shipyard sid 1 Quote this is my dry docks side build hms victory/corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4698-hms-victroy-by-dragzz-corel-scale-198/ side build waiting on parts /king of the mississippi/ al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3490-king-of-the-mississippi-by-dragzz-al-scale180/?hl=%20king%20%20the%20%20mississipp current build mare nostrum al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8125-mare-nostrum-by-artesania-latina-scale-135-by-dragzz-small/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted January 3, 2014 Share #266 Posted January 3, 2014 A very happy New Year to you and yours David. The Ship looks great. Mort Shipyard sid 1 Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocean clipper Posted January 3, 2014 Share #267 Posted January 3, 2014 Nice job David i made the mistake of putting yard on before i did those blocks.you are going to be finished in a couple of months i think,well done. DEREK Shipyard sid 1 Quote current build HMS Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share #268 Posted January 3, 2014 Hello derek Thanks a lot. How are you getting on with the foremast???. I reckon it will be about 6 months or more before I finish, but not really bothered, and loving this rigging phase. The only problem I have is knocking the gunport lids etc loose. So I reckon it's time for you to post. I reckon you are not telling us anything and are building your display cabinet. Take care DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 3, 2014 Share #269 Posted January 3, 2014 Absolutely Fantastic, and happy new year Shipyard sid 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Haw Posted January 3, 2014 Share #270 Posted January 3, 2014 Hello David, Catching up on my favorite Victory builds and you're going along like gangbusters! Beautiful work on your rigging and an inspiration to those of us lagging a couple of years behind you! Great job! Patrick Kevin 1 Quote HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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