pirozzi Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share #121 Posted May 25, 2014 Working on planking the main deck. I am really pleased with the color of the bleached walnut wood. Using Peter's research, it appears that at this scale, the length of a real ship's deck planks should be no more than 102mm. The kit calls for 180mm. I chose to go with 100mm. Rather than plank with one continuous strip and simulate joints with a marker, I chose to do it the actual way with the 3 plank shift. The first line at the center was done with all 100mm strips and the next started with a 75mm strip, the next with 50mm and the next with 25mm, then back to a 100mm and so on. One long edge and both ends of each strip were darkened with a black marking pen to simulate the black caulking that was used in between planks to seal the deck. I also tried to mix up the grains of the planks to give it more a realistic look since real decks were planked with lumber that did not match the flow of the grain. All this may seem to the extreme, but I said I would try to take this build to a more extreme level of reality than my last. Vince P. DenPink, Aussie048, marktiedens and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share #122 Posted May 25, 2014 Nice start. I noticed that you planked up to the open deck areas. Usually, grates ladder areas, deck houses, etc. had mitered surrounds. If the plans do not show this, I guess this ship didn't have them. Just though I would mention this. Hi Gary, Yes the openings will have mitered frames. Once the planking is done the frames will be added as the gratings, staircases and such are added. Vince DenPink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted May 26, 2014 Share #123 Posted May 26, 2014 Vince, Your planking work will become the "go-to" model for the rest of us. Brilliant. a real pleasure for the eyes. PS: How did you simulate the caulking so Perfectly (:-)?? Michael Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share #124 Posted May 26, 2014 Vince, Your planking work will become the "go-to" model for the rest of us. Brilliant. a real pleasure for the eyes. PS: How did you simulate the caulking so Perfectly (:-)?? Michael On the caulking, I used a black marking pen and lightly darkened one long side and both ends of each plank. I tried both long ends but it came out too dark. Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share #125 Posted June 24, 2014 I finished the main deck planking and applied one coat of a clear satin finish. I also simulated the trenails at all of the joints, but you can't see it in the photos. I need a really good camera with a closeup wide angle lens. Next up is to prepare and add the frames around the square openings and place the main deck staircase. Vince P. Kevin, edmay, WackoWolf and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted June 25, 2014 Share #126 Posted June 25, 2014 Hi Vince Just love you deck planking, the slightly different colours make it look so natural . Nice work my friend. Denis. Brian the extraordinaire and WackoWolf 2 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share #127 Posted June 25, 2014 I just bought this new tool from MicroMark. It is for cutting mitred angles on wood strips. I have a cutting block for this, but this tool is much easier to use and makes clean accurate cuts. I will be posting a few photos soon on the frames and the staircase of the main deck. All of the cuts were made with this tool. Vince P. DenPink, maggsl_01, Kevin and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted June 26, 2014 Share #128 Posted June 26, 2014 I have a similar cutter. They're great for stock thats 0.5mm or less in thickness. Much thicker and you start to get an angled edge due to the cross section of the blade Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share #129 Posted June 26, 2014 Hi Andy, I actually cut stock that was 2.0mm thick and the cut was not beveled enough that you see even under a magnifier. The blade is strong but quite thin. Vince realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted June 26, 2014 Share #130 Posted June 26, 2014 Hi Vince I have the same cutter. I have only cut 1mm and it looks OK to me. Denis. Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted June 26, 2014 Share #131 Posted June 26, 2014 Very nice work....... really like your decking. Frank DenPink 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share #132 Posted June 27, 2014 I added the framing for the main deck gratings and staircase. The grating frame was made with 3x2mm walnut standing up on the 2mm side. The staircase frame was made with 5x1.5mm walnut laying flat. Both frames were stained with one coat of red oak. **note: The plans call for an opening of 32mm square for the gratings. Make sure to leave a small lip of planking on the edges running along the ship's length for the gratings to rest on. Also, keep the square openings at 33mm or less because the gratings when assembled are just a pinch over 33mm. They will fall through anything larger than 33mm. Next up: Placing the main staircase and constructing the bannisters. Vince P. edmay, Aussie048, fnkershner and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted June 28, 2014 Share #133 Posted June 28, 2014 Hi Vince Nice workmanship once again. The cutter worked very well nice job. Denis. Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted June 28, 2014 Share #134 Posted June 28, 2014 I just bought this new tool from MicroMark. It is for cutting mitred angles on wood strips. I have a cutting block for this, but this tool is much easier to use and makes clean accurate cuts. I will be posting a few photos soon on the frames and the staircase of the main deck. All of the cuts were made with this tool. Vince P. Vince, I like that tool, and bought one straight away (Ebay find) Thanks for sharing... Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted June 28, 2014 Share #135 Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Excellent work Vince. I will be following closer from now on, as you are a bit ahead of what I'm doing on my Royal Louis. Although not the same ship, some of your ideas are universally applied. Thanks for sharing. That cutting tool is one of my favorites and most used cutting tools. Nice buy. Ulises Edited June 28, 2014 by Ulises Victoria Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share #136 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) I am reiterating a point I made earlier about this kit because I feel it is very important. Although this model is called a "Kit", it really is not a true kit. They call it a kit because it comes with a complete set of plans (a very nice set), and the materials needed to construct it. It does NOT however come with an instruction manual, as most true kits do. When building her, you are working off the set of plans only, just like with a scratch build. Without a detailed instruction manual, you have to plan ahead before doing things so as to avoid problems. Case in point: I stated in my last post that the next thing to do was place the main deck staircase and build the banisters. In looking ahead I also noticed that the main deck decorative bulkhead needed to be placed soon as well. Because of the concave shape of the hull sides where the bulkhead is placed, it is necessary to lay it flat on the deck and slide and wiggle it into place and then stand it up and attach it to the wood frame. However, with the staircase in close proximity to this bulkhead, if you place the staircase first, you can not slide the bulkhead along flat on the deck to get it in place. So I had to change the order of things and prepare and place the bulkhead first, before working on the staircase. In the photos, I just placed the staircase into the hole without securing it yet. Most experienced builders would know these things, but others could get into trouble. I am far from an expert and just want to help those that might want to build this ship. Vince P. Edited June 30, 2014 by Vince P. fnkershner, marktiedens, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted June 30, 2014 Share #137 Posted June 30, 2014 Hi Vince Wow that is looking very nice my friend . Thank you for the tip will keep that in mind . Denis. Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share #138 Posted June 30, 2014 I am working on the main deck staircase. The staircase is secured in place and the upper and lower banister rails are cut. Since both the lower and upper rails have to match perfectly, each was cut and matched into a pair. The lower are secured to the deck and the upper sections are laying next to them. Next up is to place the stanchions and then the upper rail sections. Vince P. gjdale, mtaylor, DenPink and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 1, 2014 Share #139 Posted July 1, 2014 Nice catch on the bulkhead. You saved yourself some angry words that turn the air blue. DenPink 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share #140 Posted July 2, 2014 The main deck staircase and banisters are completed. Everything was constructed from scrap lumber since they are not included in the kit. Next up: The ship's stove. Vince P. edmay, HIPEXEC, Bindy and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted July 2, 2014 Share #141 Posted July 2, 2014 Wow! nice banister. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 2, 2014 Share #142 Posted July 2, 2014 Love that staircase! DenPink 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted July 2, 2014 Share #143 Posted July 2, 2014 Love that staircase! Hi Vince I second that. Denis. Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted July 2, 2014 Share #144 Posted July 2, 2014 You are doing a great job, Vince. Thanks for posting a detailed build log. Although I haven't made any comments before, I am actually following your progress very closely and learning from your mistakes. Thanks to you, I have avoided making quite a few mistakes already! Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share #145 Posted July 2, 2014 Constructing the ship's stove. Like the main deck staircase, this will be covered up with the upper decks. The kit provides drawings for these things, but no supplies, in case the builder desires to add as much detail as wanted. This is one of the main reasons why I bought this kit.The stove is a nice touch so I built it out of bits and pieces from my lumber stash. I placed it on the deck temporarily to show where it goes. The chimney stack comes up through the forecastle deck. Vince P. realworkingsailor, MarisStella.hr, fnkershner and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted July 2, 2014 Share #146 Posted July 2, 2014 Nice job on the stove Vince. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Charles Edward Posted July 3, 2014 Share #147 Posted July 3, 2014 I have this kit myself, on the bench with the carcass finished but not yet planked. That project is on hold until I finish a couple other kits. I look forward to see how you will do the circular staircases. Since the kit did not supply material for this, or the stove either, it is an advanced kit. I really want to make those curved stairs so I will be watching this build now. Looks very nice so far, keep it up. Quote Sir Charles Edward Current build: Montanes by OcCre; Pending Builds: Sao Miguel by Mamoli; Albatross by Constructo; Albatross by OcCre; Wappen von Hamburg by Corel; Royal William by Euromodel; Past Builds: Santa Maria by Mantua; Half Moon by Corel; Golden HInd & Yacht Mary by Mamoli; Sharke by Sergal; Dallas & Scottish Maid by Artesania Latina. On the shelf in boxes: Berlin by Corel; Royal Louis by Mamoli; Nuestra Senora del Pilar by OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Charles Edward Posted July 4, 2014 Share #148 Posted July 4, 2014 That is true, but we both know the satisfaction of actually building those parts and WE know that they are there, perhaps unseen by all, but the same goes for that main stairway that you made so well. Most of that will be under the deck, if I remember the plans, but just knowing that you did that part and the stove leaves you with that good feeling inside. How do you plan on making the circular stairs? THAT is what I have been considering since my first look through of the plans and realized that those pieces were not included with the kit stock either. I have looked around for about two years or so for any type of circular stairway to use as a model, and just can't find the right one. I believe that I have seen similar circular stairs on other models, but I have never been to the point yet of downloading those pictures and trying to build them. Quote Sir Charles Edward Current build: Montanes by OcCre; Pending Builds: Sao Miguel by Mamoli; Albatross by Constructo; Albatross by OcCre; Wappen von Hamburg by Corel; Royal William by Euromodel; Past Builds: Santa Maria by Mantua; Half Moon by Corel; Golden HInd & Yacht Mary by Mamoli; Sharke by Sergal; Dallas & Scottish Maid by Artesania Latina. On the shelf in boxes: Berlin by Corel; Royal Louis by Mamoli; Nuestra Senora del Pilar by OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share #149 Posted July 4, 2014 That is true, but we both know the satisfaction of actually building those parts and WE know that they are there, perhaps unseen by all, but the same goes for that main stairway that you made so well. Most of that will be under the deck, if I remember the plans, but just knowing that you did that part and the stove leaves you with that good feeling inside. How do you plan on making the circular stairs? THAT is what I have been considering since my first look through of the plans and realized that those pieces were not included with the kit stock either. I have looked around for about two years or so for any type of circular stairway to use as a model, and just can't find the right one. I believe that I have seen similar circular stairs on other models, but I have never been to the point yet of downloading those pictures and trying to build them. Hi Charles, I have thought about the circular staircases for many hours and lost sleep over it. Not that I am scared, but eager to find a solution. I have done some research and have some drawings and photos of staircases. The key to building this will be in creating a jig, just like with the main deck stairs. I have some ideas I am throwing around, but I have not decided yet. It will be challenge to be sure. As soon as I come up with something satisfactory, I will post it for anyone interested. I do know that Peter Coward has something in the works as well, but have not seen it yet. Vince P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share #150 Posted July 4, 2014 The main deck gratings completed and in place. If you are going to use PVA glue to construct them, dilute it to at least 50/50 glue and water. It makes it much easier to work with and still holds everything in place. I just dunked the little slots in the glue and pressed each piece into place. I did not immerse the entire grate after construction. Each is finished in one coat of a natural oil based finish, since I think the natural wood color is perfect. When placing the gratings, the ribs running along the top of the grate should run in line with the length of the ship. Next up: Construct a main deck gun so I can set the height of the main deck ports and cut them out. Vince P. mtaylor, marktiedens, Bindy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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