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Hello

 

I have a question about the Beams of the Triton. How likely was that the Beams of the Triton are made in a single unit or was made up in two portions?

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My Pandora book shows one piece deck beams from the bow back to about one fourth the length of the ship. The deck beams at the stern are also one piece about one fourth of the way forward. The center half is all two piece notched together.

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Hi Guys

 

It's done, all the frames are fitted and even the starboard side is a bit sanded.

 

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The next step is sanding, sanding sanding,..........oh I hate it.

 

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Congrats for reaching this milestone, Jürgen. Your hull looks really impressive. I am nosey to see your hull when we meet next year .

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Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

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Fantastic work and I am here feeling very intimidated about starting the section build

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


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CONGRATULATIONS Jürgen!!

 

She actually looks like the first proper built HMS Triton on this forum. The rest of us have to comform with the double frame method that is less pleasent to look at... (smile)

 

Beatiful framing again!

 

 

daniel.

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Thanks so much for the nice comments Daniel and Nigel and also for all the likes.

 

@Daniel

In terms of this Triton build the most are means the double frame is much easier than the single frame. But I believe that isn't so. I think single frame have a great vantage, to get the right shape of the hull is much easier than in double frame. Although single frame is more time consuming. In relation of the optic I'm with you.

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Hello Guys

 

Sanding needs much more time as I thought. I began to fit the stern-timbers to have some change.

 

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Now it goes on with sanding

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I think you have a nw hobby, Jürgen.

Sanding, sanding :P

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

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Juergen,

 

a beautiful build and very nice hull lines of the Triton....

 

Nils

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Hello Christian and Nils

 

Much thanks for your nice comments.

 

I think you have a nw hobby, Jürgen.

Sanding, sanding :P

I can think of no better job ;)

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Thanks so much for the nice comment Mick and also for all the likes.

 

I would like to install the Main-Wale at next to stabilize the konstruction. But I'm not really sure to do this yet because the most modelbuilder are doing this later.

Are there reasons not to do so?

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Hi Juergen,

I placed my wales first so as to stabilize the framing for sanding. The frames tend to vibrate under the sander and make it hard to get anything done. Now that I have the wales in place the material is coming off more quickly. I'm not following any instructions for this but merely making it up as I go. Kind of fun that way.  :)

Hope that helps.

 

Richard

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Thanks so much for your statement Richard.

I had much trouble with vibration during the sanding. That's the reason for this thought.

If I saw your "mystique photo" (I like it very much) , it was clear to me to do it also.

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Hello Guys

 

Most of the outside sanding is done and the Main-Wale is started.

The Wale at the bow is strongly curved and it's very hard to bend it as you know. I decided to saw out this part and it worked very well.

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To fit the following parts were a lot easier

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Another difficult part is last ledge at the stern. The ledge must be formed exactly before bonding. This approach should be used at all the parts of the planks because it's much easier.

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The current progress

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The next update is coming when the Main-Wale is finished

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Really nice progress, Jürgen.

 

As you know, I am a great freind of oil colors for painting the wale black. ;)

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

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LOVELY -wonderful work

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS.
KEEP IT REAL!

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On the build table

HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 

 

 

HMHS Britannic by Kevin 

SD 14  - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 -  Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72   U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48  Amerigo Vespucci     1/84 - Panart-   HMS Enterprise  -CAF -  1/48     

Finished     

St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020

HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished   Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 

Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat

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Hi Christian and Kevin

 

Thanks so much for the nice comments and also for the likes. Your interest is always a great motivation.

 

Yes Christian I know it my friend ;) . But I suspect that needs to many time.

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Normally oil color will harden in a week or two

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

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Hello, the next step is done and the Main Wale is fitted.

I had I little mistake nearing completion. The following photo should be a little help to declare it.

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For fitting the last ledge of the Main Wale it was necessary to sanding the outside of the side counter timber at starboard side (blue arrow). But there wasn't enough material, the part was to small at this point (yellow x) . I had to many material removed at the inner side (red arrow).

The exchange of the part seems like too much effort to me. So I decided to glue a piece of wood to the counter and sanded it down. I believe that must be alright on the finished model.

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And now some photos of the Main Wale. It's still to do a bit sanding on the port side.

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Nicely fixed, Juergen.   I'm with Nigel on it being hidden.

Mark
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Looks good, Juergen. Just remember not to trim the aft end of the main wale until you have planked the lower counter! (Usually the lower counter is planked first.)

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Hello

 

Thanks so much Nigel, Marc and druxey. Your comments are a great help for me because I had my doubts to leave it.

Thanks very much for the advice druxey, I was temped to doing this.

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Yes, Juergen, it's irritating seeing rough-cut ends! But be patient, it will be worth it. That will be an outstanding model.

 

While I think of it: did you taper the thickness of the wale at the bow to fit the rabbet? (I had this conversation with another model-maker today.)

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