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Much thanks also for all the likes at first

 

Hi druxey

 

Sometimes I'm to be to hasty but I give my best to have more patience.

 

I would like to taper the thickness of the wale when the black strake is fitted. I thought it's easier to get the right shape at this way.

The wale isn't ending in the rabbit. The black strake and the lower blanking will be ending in the rabbet so you can't see this (so the theory).

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Hello druxey

 

 

While I think of it: did you taper the thickness of the wale at the bow to fit the rabbet? (I had this conversation with another model-maker today.)

 

Your question have make me think about my approach. It would be interested to know what other model maker are doing.

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Hello druxey and Richard

 

Much thanks for your answers. I must confess to my shame, I didn't have added Chuck's interested build to my following list. Now it's done.

Oh, there are so many build's and information’s here on MSW. Very nice photo that is showing this detail, such photos are not often to find. I found this advice to tapper the wale in Vol 2 of the swan series too (I have only 1 +2) but could not imagine this. At the searching in other build's I found a photo from Dan of the Vulture. But It's not to see if the wale going in the rabbet or flush to the stem. At my Triton it's going flush to the stem because it's never to see if the black strake and the blanks below are fitted.

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Hello again

 

The fitting of the black strake is started and the next problem is coming.

Therefore the following photo

 

There isn't enough space between the left haws-hole and strake. Must be the altitude of the strake reduced for fitting the boxing? I admit to be a bit douptful about this.

 

Oh, by the way, the wale is now tapered and also the strake a bit. In hindsight I believe it's better to do this before the ledges are fitted. Learning by doing.

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Before you do anything drastic, measure the heights of the hawseholes from the plans and then on the model. Are these correct? Is the height of the main wale at the bow correct or is it too high? Is the height of the black strake also correct?

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Jürgen,

 

what kind of timber do you use for the planking? The contrast to the darker swiss pear looks really great

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

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I do not understand why, but one side of the hawseholes were not similar to the other. I had wrong measured, that's absolutely certain for me because I have made one side some day's earlier than the other. Here's a pic there you can see the variety of height.

 

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The level of the holes at the starboard side is correct. So I closed the holes at the portside and drilled new ones as the same level as of the starboard side.

 

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Nice fix, Jürgen

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

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Hello Rob, Christian and Richard

 

Thanks very much for your comments and also for all the likes

 

You are completely right Richard. Now let's going on to the next mistake :)

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Juergen,

 

Well done on the fix.  It's so well done, I don't see the fix.  :)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Thanks very much Mark

 

It's so well done, I don't see the fix.  :)

I don't no why, but I have this feeling that you are a little bit dishonestly about this :D

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Thanks very much Mark

I don't no why, but I have this feeling that you are a little bit dishonestly about this :D

 

I zoomed in the bottom photo.... looks great.  I thought the others were "in process" pics.  No dishonesty.   :)

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Juergen,

 

I like the fix a lot. Great job!  And no one but those of us that saw your photos will ever know! :rolleyes:

 

Allan

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very nice work juergen,

 

are you going to plank the entire frames, or leave an outcut for to see the lovely framework ?

 

Nils

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Hello, thanks very much Mick, Allan and Nils

 

That's good to know Mick and Allan. Now I can sleep soundly again. :)

 

@Nils

I would like to show a bit of everything at the outside. The Main-Wale and below of it 4 rows with shifting planks. Then the 1st futtock- and the floorhead -ribbands and the garboard strake. Above the black-strake I will also plank only a part of the frames but in any case the complete sheer strake. Both sides will be similar. So the theory.

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Hello,

 

Here's a little update and I would like to take this opportunity to wish you all a Merry Christmas.

I started to fit the ribbands and coloured the Main-Wale black.

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The ribband-nails are done in the same manner as described in the book from David Antscherl of the Swan-Class. Only the insertion tool was made of a screw and two screw-nuts.

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For securing the nails I used white clue and think that it works.

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The Main-Wale is coloured with black stain. Mark gave me this advice in my build of the Leopard and it works very well.

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Mery Christmas, Jürgen.

 

Your Triton looks really good

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

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Merry Christmas, Jürgen!

 

Beautiful ribband! It makes such a nice curve on the hull. Very nice pictures too...

 

My best wishes for the next year ahead! for you and your Triton!

 

 

Daniel.

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Hi Juergen,

 

Just caught up with your Triton log, you've done a marvelous job on her Sir, very precise, clean work, and your hull has lovely lines B)

Best regards,

Aldo

Currently Building:
HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton

 

HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding)

 

 


Past build:
HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo

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Hello,

 

Thank you so much for your nice comments and also for the likes. I'm very pleased about this great interest.

 

Here's a little update. Some strakes below the wale and the garboard strake are fitted. The progress is very slowly because It's partial a bit tricky.

Also I needed time to find a way to add the planks without leaving any trace at the frames. Therefor the build from Ed of the Extreme Clipper is a great help.

 

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In the TFFM-book this strakes are reffered to as thickstuff under the wales. There is a little step from the second to the third strake to see on the following photo. That's why the thickness of the strakes decreases. I will sanding down them when the fourth strake is installed.

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That's the current progress.

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