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Corel Peregrine Comments Please

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Some of you may remember some time ago I was looking for a small model kit in the order of less than 500m overall for a quickish build to vary from  Pegasus

 

I have just seen this Peregrine kit - seem to have missed it before.

 

I can see it will need a bit of scratch work but overall looks the sort of thing I could at least base a build on.

 

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or indeed the Eagle in the same range 

 

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Any comments on either kit ? .  Or indeed any other kit suggestions.

 

Requirements are  roughly

 

less than 500mm overall

at least two masts

not a "toy"build

not a "specialist" vessel - ie not a mortar or gunship

 

Its for my grandson to match my old first build Liberty which he has already  ear marked.

 

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And yes I know the channels are too low !

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Hi SpyGlass:

 

I can't comment on the Peregrine or the Eagle, but I have been building the Corel Greyhound, which I believe was released at the same time as these other recent additions to the Corel line. The Greyhound has been enjoyable, but also (at the beginning) a real pain to build. The plans and instructions are woefully inadequate. There is no scale rigging or belaying plan included, so a lot of supplementary work and resources were necessary. The kit has a large number of structural flaws - in my case 2 of the bulkheads rode up a good 3/16-1/4 inch off the bearding line, while the sub-deck slots did not align with the bulkhead extensions at all. The metal parts are really pretty hideous (I scratch built more or less all of them).

 

Despite this, in the end I've enjoyed building the kit and if you've got some experience hacking and slashing your way through model ship kits then I don't imagine that either Peregrine or Eagle will be too tough. And I should say that I'm generally fond of Corel kits and am looking forward to building their Bellona. But if the Peregrine or Eagle are anything like the Greyhound you will have to trudge through a lot of frustration (nor necessarily unrewarding) before things get going....hope this helps....

hamilton

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Hi Spyglass.

 

I have both Peregrine and Greyhound on my shelf, though I don't have Eagle.  Peregrine in my opinion looks much better.  The cast fittings in my kit are crisp, and the wood is good.  It is very tiny.  I think it would be quite amenable to kit bashing.  I can look in the box if you would like me to address any questions.

 

Hamilton, I was also thinking of doing Blandford from the Greyhound kit.  How's it going?

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Thank you for your offer, I am having a think at the moment. Part of the urge to start something new  was simply sheer frustration as older fingers and eyes were giving me grief with the fiddly PE decoration of Pegasus with teh prospect of lots and lots more to do..  Then I got a few bits right and the urge to go new faded.

 

But I still rather like the idea of a smaller vessel to build alongside that I could finish before my 3year old grandson graduates!

 

So Aferox I would really be grateful just for a pic of the box contents.

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Hi Spyglass

 

The Peregrine would make a nice kit bash into Royal Caroline's predecessor,the yacht Carolina which was a modified version of this ship type.Just google royal yacht Carolina and you will see the instant resemblance.

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

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Hi Aferox:

 

Thanks for the inquiry into Blandford. It's been a difficult conversion, but Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship HMS Blandford has been a great help - structural issues with the kit that I didn't identify in advance required me to do some fudging, but I'm happy with the results and it's been a fun one to build.

 

I'm now almost done - 14 more sweeps to make, finish and install - a few more days I think and it'll be complete - I'll post some photos in the gallery. You can follow some of the trials and tribulations on my build log (link in signature). You should also check out Old Collingwood's build - he's been quiet on here of late (as have I for that matter), but he's doing a great job of addressing the structural issues of converting the Greyhound kit.

 

Good luck!

hamilton

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Hi Spyglass.  Sorry for the delay; Admiral tore the meniscus in her knee in two places and I've been a bit distracted.  I'll get the camera and kits out tomorrow.

 

Wow, sounds like you're almost done Hamilton!  I'll check out your log.  Canada, eh?  I'm from Ontario.  Somehow I ended up in Minnesota, about as far from an ocean as I can get...  

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Peregrine box contents.  Interestingly, I ended up with 2 kits (one was a gift).  The first is in the pictures, and was purchased as soon as the kits were released.  It has brightly gilded ornaments and aged brass finish cannons.  Two cannons were taped on the card outside of the plastic bag containing the other cannons.  The second kit has some kind of white metal ornaments and cannons, and an extra bag containing some longer strips of wood.  I forgot to include my ruler in the pictures, but the maximum length of the keel piece is about 12 1/4 inches.  The kit contains 6 sheets of plans and a 38 page multi-language instruction booklet.  

 

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Thanks very much for that.  The roundels on the sides were putting me off a bit and if they are in white metal I may look for another subject since my painting is terrible.  But the size is spot on what I was seeking

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I do not know the Corel Kit but I do know a bit about the Peregrine Galley. She was designed by Peregrine Osbourne who was an Admiral (he later became 2d Duke of Leeds) and in charge of the Royal Yachts during the last decade of the 17th Century. A model of her is in the collection of the National Maritime Museum at their store in Chatham Historic Dockyard. Osbourne's intention was probably for a two mast ship and using a bilander rig as he as very keen on windward performance. The main mast deadeyes and channels on this model are forward of mid-ships indicating that some form of fore and aft rig was intended. This may have proved unworkable so she was re-rigged as a ship with square sails and spent much of her time as a VIP pacquet operating between The Thames and Holland during the war of the Spanish Succession. There is a reconstruction of her in Chapelle 'The Search for Speed Under Sail' and you will see my speculative rig for her in My book, 'The Sloop of War 1650 to 1763' published by Seaforth. She was commissioned in 1700.

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Ian,

 

You wrote a great book that provides much information on a neglected subject.  Well done!  My wife and I visited Salisbury on our first trip to England way back in 1975.  It was (and I hope that it still is) a lovely town.

 

Roger

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Many thanks, it still is and is now decontaminated following the recent chemical attack! I am hoping to produce a sequel to Sloop of War in due course and it will have to involve a lot of input from America.

 

Ian McLaughlan. 

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