Santa Maria 1492 by Dominic - Artesania Latina - 1:65 Scale

[Mike Dowling]

I think the point has been made quite enough. The comments have obviously been taken on board. Further comments along the same lines are neither helpful or constructive. Give the guy a break and get on with some modelling.

[marktime]

Like I said, a teaching moment!      Congratulations, your response shows maturity and well done for putting your head above the parapet. That I believe sincerely, is the purpose of the build logs.

 

A final note, the Santa Maria was my second build so about where you are now.  As you can see from the pic, I chiseled off the planking, a bit of a pain but it came off without too much damage to the first planking. Sanded the last little bits.

 

Of course, you do realise that we'll all be watching your progress on the Jolly Boat with interest.    

[marktime]

@ Mike Dowling: And your comment was?

[jastrząb]

I must add my comment as it was one of the first...  Dominic, youare RIGHT - the camera doesn't help. When I'm pleased with my result, I take a photo and when I see the photo, I'd like to eat it... (it reveals all the imperfectnesses - a tough word). Cheer upmate, keep going

[fifthace]

I've continued work on the Santa Maria this last week. Finished the second planking and trimmed out the gun ports. Sanded the entire hull with gradually finer grades of sandpaper and finally applied two coats of varnish. I don't think my unorthodox planking turned out too bad.

 

Next I've started fitting out the decks, starting with the hatch combing and poopdeck edging. I decided to use some spare veneer to edge the poopdeck before adding the rubbing strakes.

 

[marktime]

That looks very good, excellent finish on the hull and neat outlining of the poop deck and half-deck hatch.Sometimes it just looks better when you mitre the corners so that's something to think about in the future. Otherwise, well done, the lower planking is almost invisible and would disappear completely if you tarred or tallowed below the waterline.

[fifthace]

Thank you. For this build I am sticking to the instructions, no mitring strangely enough...

As for tarring or tallowed...really? It is a model after all. Sorry I just feel that there is a limit when it comes to accuracy...the way some of you guys talk you may as well just build the real thing

[Mike Dowling]

You are doing brilliantly Dom!! Don't worry to much about the critics, I am sure they get it wrong too sometimes. Yours looks great and you should be very pleased with you efforts!

[NMBROOK]

Hi Dominic

I think your planking looks great.It is super neat.If you are happy with it and you didn't set out to create a build that is historically accurate,more something that is a display piece,then good on you,it is your model.

I understand other members wanting to 'push' you in the right direction,but I think this hobby is a bit like stopping smoking,i.e. you will do it when YOU want to.

Please don't think of this as an elitist forum,because it isn't.As you know there are a great many builds on here by modelers of varied experience.Sometimes posts may come across not as intended.I left the modelspace forum because I kept getting PM's asking for advice including links to other members work allegedly showing how not to do it,this is not nice.I have been doing this longer than most members but not as long as some,I will offer help in spades to anyone that wants it,but never criticize.I don't think any of these posts are quite in the same league.

I am certainly not wanting to fuel any arguments as model building is meant to be relaxing.    

Nat is correct in what he says in that there isn't the help and experience when YOU wish to take your model building to the next level,on the other forum.You will no doubt reach a stage when you want to stretch your ability further as things do become routine,that is the only reason I push myself in terms of what I want to achieve.In the meantime enjoy what you are doing.

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

 

Oh and Mark,we will have to agree to disagree,but 99.9% of hatch combing joints were 90 degree half lapped not mitred

[fifthace]

Thanks guys.

I will take it all on board as compliments...as if the only critique is lack of accuracy...well I can live with that! :P

[clearway]

coming along nicely Dom- Makes me feel guilty about neglecting Nina for my Victory!

Keith

[CaptainSteve]

Great work, Dom. She's coming along beautifully. 

[fifthace]

Last night I was rubbing down the rubbing strakes, (see what I did there?), as I wasn't happy with the gap that had formed between the outer strakes and the veneer that I added. So after rubbing the stain off I ran a tiny bead of cyano gel into the gap and sanded lightly with a coarse paper allowing the dust to settle into the groove. Then smoothed over with a fine grade and re-stained. Looks much better in my opinion.

 

 

Next up I started on the main deck waterways. The fore waterway had to be bevelled on the inside to sit flush on the deck/fore wall. The port/star waterways needed some shaping first. There was enough flex in the wood latitudinally to allow it to fit but I decided to soak/clamp and allow to dry to shape first. Then sanded, stained and fitted in place.

 

 

Currently I am working on adding the timberheads:

 

 

More later.

[fifthace]

I've fitted the knees for the 1/4 deck and it's fascia. I am now working on the external rubbing strakes. Starting with the main deck strake I soaked and clamped the strips so that they dry to the correct shape then stained and fitted them, fitting the two upper strakes following that. These ones didn't require pre-shaping first so was stain/dry/fit.

 

[maso]

Dominic,

[maso]

I'll try tat one again. I have just found your log. I have inherited a partially built Santa Maria. All the bulkheads have ben fitted along with the main deck. The problem is, the whole is twisted out of shape. I am trying to figure out a way to straiten it without having to pull it all apart.

[fifthace]

Hiya, forgive the lateness in my reply.

 

I don't think there is a way to straighten without taking apart, if is at that point. And depending on what was used as adhesive may dictate on how you can take it apart. If it was just ordinary PVA, the easiest way is to soak in hot water for a few minutes and it should come apart quite easily. Be sure though the keep the parts flat whilst they dry as you could end up with a worse problem than when you started.

Forgive if you already know all this, it can be hard to gauge a persons experience unless you already know.

 

Good luck.

[maso]

Thanks for that. I had hoped to not pull it all apart, but it does seem to be the only way to fix it properly. It looks like they have used PVA glue, so hopefully I can pull it apart easily.

 

Dave.

[jacasa]

Hello Dominic, I would very much like to see your pictures, can you advise how to open them?.

 

Regards,

 

John