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Thanks Kevin and Mark :-)

 

Still trying to replicate the hard tacks in 1:100, a comrade in my german forum already gave me the recipe:

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheet_ship_biscuit.htm

 

But where do I get original lamb for the stew and beef in 1:100 suitable for the needed small portions?!?

 

Fork and spoon? Did the ranks have forks? I would have guessed just knife and wooden spoon in 1805? Any ideas?

 

Daniel

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Yep, knife and wooden spoon.  Some might have had forks, but I doubt that they were standard issue.

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Hi Daniel

 

Each time I visit your build it gets better and better. You never fail to amaze me with all the detail that you add to your build, keep up the great work and keep posting pictures.

 

Regards   Lawrence

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Thank you Daniel for taking the time and effort to share your knowledge and craftsmanship.  I am always inspired  and invigorated when I read your posts.

 

Bravo!!!

 

Dan 

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I see, research already done.

Now we'll wait for the execution :)

 

Jan

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As the set of my etch parts is already with me and almost ready to be distributed, I am still trying out the last production samples just to make sure everything really fits and also refining my own skills and technics.

 

To prepare the locks I worked hard to cut off the small bit that fixes it to the frame. Also handling and positioning was quite difficult as the parts are tiny.

 

The first idea was to use this bit it as a connector pin :-) So a small hole drilled into position which makes positioning and glueing easier and the lock more stable afterwards. After breaking two 0,4 drills, I got the second idea: Why drilling? A needle does the job better and faster ...

 

... so a needle fixed in a tooth pick ...

 

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... a small well positioned acupuncture and then using fine pliers instead of tweezers ...

 

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... got it fast and safe on the spot. The fine pliers do not have the tendency to send things into the parallel universes as much as tweezers do :-)

 

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Also tried out an alternative to the rings on the breech using etch rings instead of wire. Also a great way with the needle to prepare the fixing holes. Depending to the knowledge and skill of the modeler, the rings can be made a tad more even like this than using wire.

 

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And also trying out other ways of working on difficult parts, here the back of a blade in a clamp for bending the bucket holders on the poop.

 

etch_victory-guns_7839.jpg

 

Daniel

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So last night´s tinkering ...

 

... the spectecal plates of the rudder ...

 

Etch_Victory_rudder_7875.jpg

 

... the new poop skylight with bending help in the back ...

 

Etch_Victory_skylight_7874.jpg

 

... roof curved by rolling with a wooden stick over a soft surface ... 

 

Etch_Victory_skylight_7877.jpg

 

... and especially round roof and right number of windows ;-).

 

Etch_Victory_skylight_7880.jpg

 

The fighting top with lantern holder...

 

Etch_Victory_maintop_7882.jpg

 

... and the stun´sail boom fittings.

 

Etch_Victory_stunsail_7885.jpg

 

Etch_Victory_stunsail_7889.jpg

 

Cheers, Daniel

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very nice photo etch Daniel.......I really like what your doing with it.   I was thinking the other day about the advances kits have made since the 60's and 70's.   through modeler's inputs......a lot of detail has been added,  that was otherwise unheard of back in the day.   I think they would do quite well,  in taking note on what your doing for future kits ;)

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Thank you Popeye,

 

but I think the etch and the new wealth of details is only one thing. More important is not to loose the soul of a model over all this tinkering.

 

Actually I prefere a well build oob with the right heart and soul over a overdetailed "supermodel" that is lacking the smell of the seaside.

 

Nether the less I try both, soul and interesting details, lets see which stories still will araise to be told.

 

Three cheers on modelmaking, Daniel

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Daniel,

 

Sweet work on the guns.  So tiny, yet so perfect.   I'll be waiting with everyone else to see what stories will be told.

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So tinkertime goes on ...

 

... the funnel on the forecastle ...

 

etch_victory_funnel_7913.jpg

 

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... flaglocker, I opted for the closed one ...

 

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... and the boom saddle and the rack for the pins on the mizzen :-)

 

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The belaying pins stay hand-worked ;-)

 

Cheers, Daniel

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You prefer oob?

Sometimes I wonder......

You could have finished at least four well build (above average, I'm sure) oob's in all your tinkering time.

 

I have to say: I'm still wondering were this mega-project will lead us....

 

Jan

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The most tricky part so far, the boarding pikes holders:

 

First glueing two rings atop of each other, the needles making sure, that the holes of the upper ring will be lined properly ...

 

Etch-Victory_mainmast_7933.jpg

 

... while the one on the bottom has pocket holes.

 

Etch-Victory_mainmast_7934.jpg

 

Then putting both rings over the mast ...

 

Etch-Victory_mainmast_7935.jpg

 

... and cutting the same amount of holes on both rings away until the diameter fits properly. Taking a pike and sorting out the heights for that the beautiful point of the spear does not disappear in the ring. Then glueing first the inside of the upper ring onto the rubbing pouch and let dry well. Afterwards bend into place and fix it on the other side and in the back. 

 

Etch-Victory_mainmast_7937.jpg

 

Use one pike for the alinement of the two rings and fix the bottom ring also in two steps. Then take out the pike and bend carefully straight and horizontal and glue it to its final position ...

 

Etch-Victory_mainmast_7938.jpg

 

... and fill with the boarding pikes. 

 

Etch-Victory_mainmast_7940.jpg

 

With a tad of color and rope it could look like this :-)

 

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As I always moan about the Prince of Wales´ feathers, it is time to sratch them off and replace them by a cute five piece crown - a pure dafinistique hypothesis :-) ...

 

Etch-Victory_crown_7942.jpg

 

... and fix some more stable lamp holders.

 

Etch-Victory_lantern_7956.jpg

 

Amicalement, Daniel

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Those feathers were almost present at Trafalgar - being part of the stern decoration of the HMS Prince of Wales but at this moment on the way home with Calder on his own flagship to face court martial because of his tactics at Cape Finisterre,...

 

When the PoW was demolished in about 1822, those feathers were fixed afterwards onto the Vic and stayed there ever since.

 

This is well known, the only thing is, what was there before? The Livesay drawing not really define this place, but as todays side entries also present the coat of arms with a crown in the center, and as the figure had had the crown too, it seemed to me the most logical guess. 

 

Any other guesses or solutions always welcome to be discussed :-)

 

Daniel

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Thank for the reply.

Taking a crown might be correct, but who knows... perhaps it was just empty, and that's why they put the feathers in :)

 

Jan

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I do not think it was empty, as there was something meant to be for heraldic reasons.

 

I my understanding is right, those three feathers are not just feathers, but a crown crowned with tree feathers. So they might have switched a plain crown by one with three feathers, which would go with the strict heraldic rules of those days.

 

Daniel

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Just to show, not everything turned out perfect in the first go. Here a trial with open flag lockers: Too much space on the plate, too complicated in assembly and most importend: too little sex-appeal as it looks horrid!

 

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So being eliminated with no hesitation for V2 and adding other more sexy goodies instead ...

 

Etch_Victory_bell_8000.jpg

 

... so, the bell can be rang :-)

 

XXXDAn

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Very nice Mr. Dafi. But what is the craftsmanship behind adding photo-etched material to your ship? the twelve hours you stuck to your computer? The 30 seconds you feel like the pimp when showing it off here? I am sure we can afford: ....having the whole ship CNC milled and show it around. It will be more accurate and cleaner than anything you did and presented before. But is that the aim?  

I am sorry to say but i get bored to see how your glueing and presenting industry-produced pieces to your ship after having enjoyed to watch your ideas before for a long time. Everyone of us can order a photo- or whatever etched piece or whole ship somewhere in internet.

It`s nice of you that you show your self drawn and ordered bell holder to us. Mr. Saemann did a really need job. But it dissapoints me in a way........ to whom the bell tolls. I know it may be hard for you to take criticism, but...you lost a follower. 

Regards

xxxoxHarry

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Sorry Harry I did not intend to bore you,

 

it is in a way the months of research behind and the joy of developing and sharing the parts. It came out naturally as result of all those trials I did all along my way :-)

It was a tad more then 12 hours and will provide some help to modelers who just want do do some modeling without to much research. Even though this is still the kit section, the most important in modelmaking is not just to glue things together, but even more important is  to give a soul to a model - and this no etch part can help the modeler.

 

Greetings, Daniel :-)

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So the before last part, and I keep the usual length, as always the showing how to was the important, not just showing the end results.

 

So here comes the revised binnacle.
 
Well chucked the grooves on the backside provide help in placing and bending :-)
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7971.jpg
 
Using a hard and crisp tool to bend ...
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7975.jpg
 
... loosened after the first step, a doubled paper being put underneath for a tad of extra height, retracted the paper and by rolling with a wooden rod the corners are subdued into perfection.
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7976.jpg
 
The most tricky is always the last bent. Here for I used Tesa double sided tape to fix the part on the table and inserted a 3 mm Plexi and bending the brass over it - I love when dafi´s well planned brainfarts work out well ;-)
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7977.jpg
 
Then using fine pliers to adjust the corner´s angles ...
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7978.jpg
 
... and we are awarded with a nice and crisp box :-)
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7983.jpg
 
The lid for the small funnel is formed using a center punch.
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7968.jpg
 
The inner table should not be too much of a problem after all this :-) Cutting out the binnacle´s top, stacking the layer cake compasses, and adding the needed extra parts: evergreen rod 2 mm for the lantern (a toothpick will be ok too), 1 mm Evergreen rod for the funnel, a 0,2 mm sheet for the inner base (cardboard will work also), 2 Rings for the bracing onto the deck and transparent film for the windows ...
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7985.jpg
 
... and just fixed :-)
 
Etch_Victory_binnical_7996.jpg
 
Left the etch-binnacle Mark 1, in the middle the new one with now crisp drawers and right the also rivised rudder column, now with crisp lawrels :-)
 
All the best, Daniel
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Great Job.

Thanks for sharing all of the detail and the how and why on many things. Thanks Again.

 

Later 42rocker

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