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Looking great Dave; really nice work.  Paulv makes some good points.  If using the AOTS for rigging, check the blocks for the running rigging for the sails (if fitting them) on the pages just before the belaying plan (115?).  these show some of the rigging in front of, and behind the sail and are not shown on the running rigging plan or on the mast drawings.  I found I had missed a couple of blocks (eg halliards, down haulers etc) but have developed a "running" loop method of fitting these which, if careful has allowed me to retro-fit them. :(

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Thanks fellas for looking in.

I've taken all those valuable lessons you guys have come by on board at the "shipyard cronicles".  :)

As I am sure others do, I spend as much time researching as doing.

 

I will be, as Paul pointed out, raising the masts, section by section, adding the standing rigging on in the traditional way.

I plan to add some running rigging, blocks and ropes, however jury is in session as to sails.

 

Been toying with having sails rolled and lashed up on spars as if at anchor.

 

Just another level of complexity and by the time I get to it, a retirement task.

 

:bird-vi:

 

Dave R

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Very nice Dave. I may have to buy a lathe yet.

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Very nice Dave. I may have to buy a lathe yet.

Thanks Michael,

A Lathe is great, however a lot of post work, carving, nibbling, sanding to knock the spars into final shape. Then the drilling gouging for the pulleys, which are all fake on my masts(2 holes either end and a recess at the sides)

 

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An update from the Shipyard Foundry. 

Before I forgot, and let time slip by, the wee lads and myself got stuck into the swivel Guns.

10 in all 5 port and 5 starboard.

 

All the individual metal items:

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1. we have a square washer which will sit on the top of the gun stock(post).

2. a fork, which came with the kit(one of the few metal items I am actually using), with the pin filed down to 1.5mm. 2mm looked to big.

3. an eye bolt which I turn the pin end into another loop to make

4. a double ended pin for a gun housing. One end slips over the fork pin and weld in place >

5. the ring end is cut and shaped to a "U" for the gun to rest in

6. missing i picure, is a larger 1mm pin for the gun to mount to the fork. I cut 1mm pin as guns are different than kit supplied, too long and shape wrong. I also needed to drill out the holes through the gun, as it was much smaller than the fork side holes. 

Looks like I envisaged, the fork and housing is larger than that dipicted in the AOTS. I do not mind mine being larger, as the shot forces form the gun ? nessitates a sturdy fork and housing.

Production line, make 10 sets all up.

Handle - farther down.

 

Swivel Gun - mockup(less the handle)

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Added a thin 0.5mm wire to the of the gun for handle to "slid" on - cut to length later on.

Blackened 1st dip, to all the pieces, then assembled 2 gun sets to see they shape up.

Next making handle. So small - 6mm long !

 

Mounted on stern post:

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Drilled holes in the outboard posts for pin, Note: do it now not when rigging done.

Timber handle added, to see how it looks. I'll stick to this size bit less than 1.5mm dia, very small and any smaller, bound to break it. 9 more to make.

 

Mounted on starboard post:

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Happy with the look.

Few more hours for handle making.

Assemble, blacken or paint touchup and store away to fit near end.

 

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Some final touches to the handles:

 

Rope wrap about the end and paint/clear.

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Paint and clear to the rope end.

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"Tick a box", another set of items done.

 

 

Dave R

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David,

I was looking at you mast tops and noticed that your deadeye strop was metal. Did you make those yourself or did they come with your Corel kit? I had enough for the lower hull dead eyes but can't seem to locate the material for the upper ones. If you did fabricate them yourself, I'm sure it's in your log somewhere. Could you direct me to the post.

 

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David,

I was looking at you mast tops and noticed that your deadeye strop was metal. Did you make those yourself or did they come with your Corel kit? I had enough for the lower hull dead eyes but can't seem to locate the material for the upper ones. If you did fabricate them yourself, I'm sure it's in your log somewhere. Could you direct me to the post.

 

Thanks

Hi Michael.

post #520 in the log.

I made them from copper wire(wire from inside power cables)

I made all the lower ones as well.

My kit provided pre-fabricated ones which did not allow a deadeye to slip in at all.

I haven't used much of the metal parts in the kit at all. Either not of the era, size is wrong or non existent.

 

 

Dave R

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Ships Boats by the Shipyard

My kit came with 1 hollowed out hull for a small boat.

It does not match close to any of the boat details in the Endeavour AoTS.

According to the AoTS, there were 4 boats:

- Longboat

- Pinnace

- Cutter

- Yawl 

 

Longboat

I will aim to re-create the Endeavour's Longboat as shown by Karl Marquardt in the AoTS.

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What to use to built the longboat:

I had a look through logs of other Endeavour builds and found a frame set for a longboat.

I scaled the picture for a longboat (94 mm x 35mm x 20mm) which Banyan had noted in his log, for Ray Parkin's version for the construction of the longboat. This size will fit nicely 

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I made and laid the keel, mounting it in a jig for the hull construction.

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Frames:

The frames were cut from 0.6mm ply.

16 in total with balsa spacers on the top to keep them parallel.

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The 2 legs at the back keep the frames vertical over the keel.

 

Stern:

I added a double thick ply stern.

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Started removing the mid sections of the frames.

 

The hull will be carvel planked directly onto the frames.

As per Banyan's Endeavour log:

Parkin had mentioned the longboat would have been clinker built rather than carvel.

This would provide a boat more robust which could be used to conduct the intended close-in coastal surveying (which I am assuming Cook would have wanted).

 

So much more work for the shipyard to get into for this one little boat.

3 more to decide on.

 

 

Dave R

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Looks good Dave; hang in there :)  I still have two to do in slow time but still thinking of how I will  do them; especially the skiff as being so narrow the frames will be very delicate.  I am thinking a solid plug to build it on.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Dave,

I collected some wire cut-offs from the construction next door. Your method worked like a charm. Mine will come out better with each iteration as my soldering skills improve.

 

Thanks again

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Some progress.

 

Longboat Episode 2:

I modified the Longboat Jig to hold the framed boat upside down for Clinker planking.

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Gunwale

To strengthen the wales, I added the gunwale(oversize at this stage) which will be trimmed at a later stage.

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Back in the Jig.

 

Clinker planking:

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The garboard plank added to both sides.

 

Starboard hull:

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Half way over the hull, slow going as each is fitted.

 

Port hull:

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Each plank is 3.5mm max width in the mid frames, with a 0.5mm overlap equates at 1:60, 180mm of exposed plank width. Visually shold give the desired affect.

 

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Bow:

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Shows the Clinker planking.

 

 

Dave R

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Nice progress Dave they look good - not trying clinker planking ;)

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Very nice work Dave, that looks very nicely proprtioned and balanced.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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DELFTship Longboat model

 

I found that some members use DELFTship to model ship hulls.

I downloaded the free version and after I worked out how to and got the hang of the software, I created a hull shape of the longboat from the Endeavour AoTS pictures.

 

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Side view of the wire frame overlaid to the longboat hull shape.

 

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Perspective view. Basic hull wire frame which can output the frames/stations as in the picture below.

 

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Lines Plan output from DELFTship.

 

I plan to use the other ship boat plans(in the AoTS) to develop other hull/frames.

Probably dxf the DELFTship model out to TurboCAD(which I have bought) to develop a set of individual frames.

See how that goes.

 

Fun.

 

 

Dave R

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That looks really good Dave; I might have to have a look at that myself.  let me know when you get to the Yawl and Gig, as I have to do those yet -  a set of dxf files for those would be useful if you don't mind sharing?

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Top job dave

It looks like you are a master of the little boats as well.

Cheers Chris

Hi Chris,

Too kind, more a dabbler of many things, master of none more likely.

Very fiddly work at such a small size, mostly under a magnifier.

I've found that I need to take a break after a couple of hours, as my eyes play up.

 

Slow and steady like a turtle, that's me.

 

 

Dave R

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Ships Boats by the Shipyard


Some more progress.


 


Longboat Episode 4:


The lads in the yard did some work on the internals.


 


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Added the footwaling, windlass, stern bench and knees.


Loose fit the thwarts, a bit too high but too late to change now. 


 


Having a break for now on this one to move ontot he other 3 boat hulls.


 


Plan is to get all the hull basics similar and fininsh off the "little things" in one go.


Rudder, masts, oars etc.


 


 


Dave R


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Some more progress.


The Pinnace will be another clinker hull built on frames similar to the Longboat.


The fit-out from the AoTS.


 


Pinnace Episode 1:


I used DELFTship to develop a hull model for the pinnace, based on the lines from the AoTS p132.


This process involves scanning to AoTS diagrams, loading bitmap pictures(scaled) into the program, then overlay a manipulated wireframe.


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The program provides a plot of the hull design that can be used to make patterns.


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For the Longboat I hand cut all frames and keel from 0.6mm ply and using a scaple blade. Very time consuming and not 100% accurate. See my previous log on this. 


 


For this boat I wanted to create a set of patterns and then Laser cut them on the 0.6mm 3 ply.


 


I exported the hull plot as a DXF to load into TurboCAD to further develop a pattern set(frames and keels) for "laser" cutting.


Being the first time, it took a lot of time to develop the patterns to a stage for laser testing.


 


I am fortunate to have a local source who has a laser cutter.


After some trial runs, this is the end product of the laser cut frames and keel elements.


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Next the assembly of the elements to form a hull frame/shape.


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This has been a big learning curve, and I must thank Pat(Banyan) for his advice and thoughts.


 


I plan to do the other 2 boats(Yawl and Skiff) in a similar manner, applying some upgrades to the laser pattern design from what has been learn't through this process.


 


Ya gotta have fun to do this..... crazy....


 


 


Dave R


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For someone who works at turtle pace, you seem to get a lot done.

And it is all quality work. It will take me a month of Sundays to work out what you are doing with

the cad program, and then actually do the building.

You must have retired in recent times.

Cheers Chris

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For someone who works at turtle pace, you seem to get a lot done.

And it is all quality work. It will take me a month of Sundays to work out what you are doing with

the cad program, and then actually do the building.

You must have retired in recent times.

Cheers Chris

Chris,

Not much "paying" work at the moment, time for fun things.

Some late nights on this stuff though, I get so involved, time slips by.

It also helps I have an extensive sailing, yachting and CAD background.

 

Compared to others. I believe I take my time.

 

Dave R

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Some more progress.


I have spent(between Xmas shopping and some paying work) some time on the last 2 ships boats.


Both to be clinker built on frames similar to the Longboat and Pinnace.


The fit-out from the AoTS to follow.


 


I've progressively added a few more items to be cut from the ply.


A hole for a rod to go through the frames to keep aligned, that is the intent. (one of our fellow Endeavour builders "Banyan" request) 


Rudder(laminated), gunwale, knees, seating. See how they fit !


 


 


Yawl Episode 1:


The Yawl is described by Ray Parkin "H.M. Bark Endeavour" as 10' long, 5' beam and 2' 3" stern post.


He makes reference to Mr Banks saying they had no boat on board but a small Yawl.. in Rio de Janerio.


 


I used DELFTship to develop a hull model for the Yawl, based on the lines from the AoTS p133.


Again, similar to the Pinnace I scanned the AoTS diagrams, loading bitmap pictures(scaled) into the program, then overlay a manipulated wireframe.


 


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The program provides a plot of the hull design that can be used to make patterns.


I exported the hull plot as a DXF file.


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I imported the hull plot DXF file into TurboCAD to further develop a pattern set(frames and keels) for "laser" cutting.


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Part of the template ready for laser cutting.


3 middle keel lamination's, with a rabbit keel either side.


 


So next is to get this Laser cut onto 0.6mm 3 ply.


 


Skiff Episode 1:


In Ray Parkin "Endeavour", he mentions there were two other small boats. However I could not find the size of either boats.


A Skiff is depicted in Marquardt AoTS, the length (similar length to the Pinnace ). Seems a bit "long" in consideration of Mr Parkin's, 2 other small boats, smaller than the others ?


I've taken a punt and made the Skiff 15' long, in proportion to scale from the drawing.


Basically the 4th boat of similar length to the Pinnace.


 

The process is similar to the previous others:

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Their is quiet a process inside TurboCAD to "pull" apart the DELFTship plot frames to generate individual frames. Each has the top and 2 inside "cuts" added. And the same for the "Keel", creating the "slots" for the frames, and catering for the fore and stern frames that are higher. And a lot of other "bits". All are arranged to minimize ply wastage as much as possible.

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Part of the template ready for laser cutting.


I changed to 2 middle keel lamination's, with a rabbit keel either side.


 


So next is to get these Laser cut onto 0.6mm > 3 ply that I am using.


I have a matching PDF file with numbers to each frame to match up to the keel.


 

Then plenty of planking to do and onto the fit-out.

 

Merry Xmas to all.

 

Dave R


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That's a heck of a lot of work very nicely done Dave and should make into very nice boats.  Thanks for sharing your info and efforts; much appreciated.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Wow.

This looks like a huge amount of work. CAD is something I would have liked to learn. Now too much other good stuff to do.

 

Merry Christmas

 

Regards

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Some/little progress.


 


Pinnace Episode 2:


Just added a plank under the gunwale to the Pinnace.


 


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And the first plank to the keel.


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That's all for now as I moved onto the templates for the Yawl and Skiff.


 


 


Dave R


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